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Still seen as violent and dangerous. and we still give their killers the benefit of the doubt. so yes, that will matter or could matter. i hope it doesn't but it could matter because we are looking for reasons to let the people off the hook for killing black boys. too often we see their bodies as dangerous. so that's an issue here, but i hope they keep hanging their heads on the rap lyrics. i hope we have a country smart enough to know that banging your head out of your car with a subwoofer doesn't mean that you should die. >> i don't go up to people and say, who the heck do you think you are?...

Look to run for mayor, i would probably want to start somewhere in city council, get the feel of local politics, get my hands dirty, so to speak, not dirty, though. get my feet in the water and get a feel for it. >> right. >> being a mayor of a major metropolitan city like houston is probably not an easy job. our current mayor is doing a great job but she gets a lot of backlash on the things she does in spite of the things she's trying to do. it's not an easy job. i might need a little more experience before i try to run. >> sounds like you're ready. you've got a lot of it down. i appreciate y...

Of a crime, in some cases murder, robbery, felons, and it turns out that it is true, why shouldn't that be used against them in court? how do you explain where this becomes a free speech issue? >> well, i mean, if someone chooses to incriminate themselves, that's their own thing. i think the problem is that you know, once we start to open this door to go through everyone's rap lyrics to try to find crime in there, i think that's where we have the problem. >> and it's also interesting that this article in the "new york times" just came out, but in reality, you, many other brilliant rappers, phi...

Metadata, but if the government doesn't have it, who has it? is that more or less secure? and we'll be working out this debate as the months go forward. >> congressman, thank you so much for your time. pleasure talking to you. thank you. well, 50 and fabulous, the first lady michelle obama celebrates her birthday fearlessly by her new aarp card. we'll have more on the birthday party planned at the white house. also ahead, rapper bun b will join us. regarding rap lyrics and whether they can be used as evidence in police investigations. ♪

Case against 11 different gang members. joining me live, david goodman and michael is an msnbc contributor. neither are rappers but are interested in this. michael, i want to start with you. you have been talking about this on your show for a while. i'm intrigued that here you have a broad spectrum of listeners but many in the midwest, i would imagine, and certainly people you would not suspect to be intrigued or even defending some of these rappers. >> you won't be surprised to hear that yesterday when i shared with my radio audience some of the 13 pages of rap lyrics that were read for the n...