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He is reporting to. under the special counsel regulations, unlike the independent counsel regulations that were controlling under the kenneth starr investigation, there is no requirement that this report see the light of day. so it really will be up to whoever is supervising bob mueller's investigation to determine what and how much of that report is revealed and certainly if the most recent reporting is accurate, that president trump has been having these secret conversations with matthew whitaker as to what he would like to have done with regards to this investigation, then it seems he is ce...

Interim report. the reporters from nbc news, ken delaney and -- both of them are -- i can't -- i can't remember who the second one is right this second, but ken delaney and the other are outstanding. >> tom winter. >> i'm sure that -- >> tom winter. >> i do not think it's a wrap up report. i don't think there's any way trump can block it even with whitaker in place. the only place in washington that doesn't leak is mueller's office but the department of justice does. we saw that this week when whitaker tried to intimate to the public that he was not going to recuse himself and neglected to men...

Overseeing mueller's russia investigation and it was all after he has been on the record criticizing the special counsel. this as nbc news reports that mueller's investigation could wrap up as early as mid-february. so joining me now now to discuss a ariana berg and cynthia ox knee, msnbc analyst. ariana let's start with you. you heard what congressman schiff had to say. if the president's legal team exert executive privilege to stop the release of mueller's report? >> it's a terrific question, very timely right now. under the special counsel regulations all that bob mueller is required to do ...