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Now, fred, there still seems to be some protesters behind me going on. we'll have the camera pan over there. as you can see, there's about 4,000 people here today, a big crowd. people are regularly checked for signs and paraphernalia that they bring in. waving signs they've made on the back of trump signs, writing things. not clear what this protester is protesting about. i should note, though, donald trump in response, he's pretty used to these protesters now. earlier today, when the first round of protesters interrupted, he said, you know, it's actually a beautiful thing. it's a beautiful th...

>> oh, yeah, it's fantastic. >> yes, yes, fantastic. >> simple, delicious, things not to be taken for granted if you've been out of joint like this guy, zanzi. activist, astrologer, and three times convict. everyone i've met in this country, so far, has been in prison. >> this happens again and again for us in myanmar. >> almost six years? >> nearly six years. all the judgments are made by the kangaroo court and the army, and the three officers sitting all together. they read off, this is your sentence. it happens. only minutes. like that. >> what is life like inside prison? >> nice, nice, ver...

Add cabbage, tomatoes and lots of crunchy bits like toasted peanuts seasoned with lime and fish sauce. this is absolutely delicious. >> you like it? >> oh, yes. >> yes, yes, fantastic. >> simple, delicious, things not to be taken for granted if you've been in and out of the joint like this guy. zanzi. three times convict. everybody i met has been to prison. >> this happens again and again for us in myanmar. >> almost six years? >> nearly six years. all the judgments are made by the kangaroo court and the army, and the three officers sitting altogether. this is your sentence. it happens only mi...

Richard herman is a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor. he joins us from miami. thanks so much to both of you for being with me today. >> sure. >> richard, i'd like to start with you. we heard dzhokhar tsarnaev is sitting up in bed. he's in a medical facility at a prison. he's sitting up in bed and he's writing things. we don't know what he's writing, but in your mind as a defense attorney, what should he be doing? >> he should be pleading with his two attorneys, the one who went to yale and the one who went to harvard, to try to cut him some sort of deal to spare his life. t...

>> sean: they didn't get it before the election and they still do not get it today. here with reaction author of courage and consequence with a new chapter called obama the myth. karl rove is back with us. welcome back. >> good to be back. >> sean: here's obama, gives the press conference. here's nancy pelosi in this interview. they are happy with the work they did. do they get it? >> no, they don't. i read through the stuff. word by word, painful to read. they don't get it. i hope you don't mind, i brought my notes. i was so wraoeured up about it i started writing things -- i was so wired up ...