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Single obsession concern of you and your organization. i just want to make it clear to the viewers that you don't -- i don't believe you have any interest in what happens on the spending side of government. meaning, if i were to say to you, oh, come on, grover, if we do this, we're not going to be able to fund medicare the way we would like to. that just isn't your concern. you just want taxes cut and cut and cut and cut? >> no. to the contrary. only if you take tax increases off the table do you ever get any spending restraint. this is not just in washington. 13 governors have signed the pled...

Reform, whose mission statement is, "the government's power to control one's life derives from its power to tax. we believe that that power should be minimized." there are some republicans who have thought that, perhaps, perhaps, maybe, we should have raised taxes to pay for the iraq and afghanistan wars, or at least partially pay for them, but they would not dare say so, because that would violate a written pledge they had made to grover norquist. who presents every republican running for the house, the senate, or the white house with a pledge to sign, saying that he or she will never, ever s...

>> well, we're not talking about it. i think if you go back and look at the commission's report, what we were talking about is getting significant dynamic effects by taking away tax credits, lowering the tax rate, and having an economic increase that will actually increase the revenues to the federal government. we're not talking about raising tax rates at all. so if there's a net effect of tax revenue, that would be fine with me. i experienced that during reagan's period in 1986. >> that may not have sounded like a particularly bold response to you, but for a republican senator, nothing brave...

We should all base our principles on fundamental questions of morality. >> joining me now, columnist from "the new york times," david brooks. also author of "the social animal" that goes on sale today. the republican field is taking shape. my favorite thing to do with conservatives and republicans is to ask them what's wrong with all of the republican candidates. i will start with the one you're a big fan of. you are a mitch daniels fan. if you could vote for president tonight, that's who you would want. >> i am not sure who i would vote for. he is mr. governor, mr. sex appeal. >> now i am goi...

Conservatives. we should all base our principles on fundamental questions of morality. >> joining me now, columnist from "the new york times," david brooks. also author of "the social animal" that goes on sale today. the republican field is taking shape. my favorite thing to do with conservatives and republicans is to ask them what's wrong with all of the republican candidates. i will start with the one you're a big fan of. you are a mitch daniels fan. if you could vote for president tonight, that's who you would want. >> i am not sure who i would vote for. he is mr. governor, mr. sex appeal. ...