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Clearly, he is all in on iowa. he's effectively moved his campaign headquarters there. he pretty much moved himself there. he's not in the polling competitive in any other state which is something that nikki haley actually is. she's competitive in new hampshire and then she will be going to her home state of south carolina. i don't mean to be rude about this but does it seem clear in iowa that if nikki haley beats ron desantis in iowa, that if she comes in second there, instead of him, that ron desantis's campaign will end and won't even make it to new hampshire? >> i can give you a yes or no ...

Million so far just on tv. 16 million so far. 59 million by desantis. you know, she's going to get smoked. and you and i both know it. >> and she still 20 points behind trump. >> yeah, oh yeah. steve kornacki, you've been looking at the scientifically speaking. is nikki haley in fact going to get smoked? >> it depends what state you are talking about, key question when you look ahead to the bigger picture of the republican nomination battle here. in any given state, what is the demographic mix and these demographics. our most recent poll, this is a couple weeks ago, we will have a final one th...

President if you consider his strategy in the state. this is a must-win for him. so he went all in on resources, all in on ground game, all of that is true but frank nikki haley. her goal is to continue punching at wrong desantis in hopes that she continues to help his pretty sagging campaign continue to fail in the hawkeye state. her goal is to get a strong second tier that they can use into a springboard and you hampshire. i do think the striking thing for me is especially starting debate night with the news of chris christie dropping out. you effectively watch the former new jersey governor...

Use this as an opportunity to go into new hampshire stronger. and certainly her campaign is feeling more optimistic in my conversations with them despite that hot mic moment, where christie sort of eviscerated her. they still feel like his getting out of the race, freed up a couple of key points that they can now turn to their cause and you hampshire, and she is one of the only people who have been able to put in several polls, and plays, where she is at least close to striking distance with trump, desantis does not have that ability to say that even in iowa, where he has put so much into it. ...

Where nikki haley and ron desantis and tim scott and mike pence and doug burgum are, and vivek ramaswamy stood on that stage in milwaukee in august and when we were asked, would you support someone with a convicted of a convicted felon to be president if united states. they raised their hands. given credit, he had to look at everybody else first. but then he raised his hand. they raised their hands. and i did not. and i will not. and i cannot countenance that behavior. i want you to imagine for a second jefferson and hamilton and adams and washington and franklin were sitting here tonight, do ...