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Counter position to biden, there's really nothing there. i think they will shift to broader, bigger themes, but you can see the kernels in both of these of what they would be saying. president obama saying we've come too far to turn back, and governor romney saying it's not good enough. you'd be foolish not to change course. those are the nutshells of the arguments. they have been building up for the last six to nine months. over the course of the next few weeks, we will be hearing those in much clearer and starker terms than we've heard before. >> you know, a lot of elections turn on the very...

Right, 32rs, wrong direction 61%. y >> you realize the president is winning one fourth of people who think the country is headed in the wrong direction. >> it's amazing. >> right. >> you mentioned paul ryan's congressman. congress job approval, approve 12%, disapprove 82%. >> the country is united baby. we have united the country. congratulations. u.s. congress. >> bipartisan. >> is there any way, chuck, 12% approve, any way we can -- >> i want to know who these people are. >> and live near them. >> in all honesty, every time we do this question, i do get a smart alec like you who says who a...

They were trying to dance around but now they're head first. >> okay. >> the one extra piece of baggage they didn't contemplate as much, his first name is congressman. >> rapid fire, go through these numbers. rapid fire, one line each, unless there's nothing to be learned from it. if the election were held today, obama 48, mitt romney 44. >> battleground state number is what i would point people to. much smaller. 49/46. one place we saw evidence of a ryan boost. >> obama job approval, 48 approve, 49% disapprove. >> that 48 and 48, keep an eye, job approval number and your final ballot test is ...

We're not getting anywhere right now. the direction in our polling shows 31%, people think we're in the right direction. how does obama defend the direction we're in right now against the guy who says, i've got a new direction for you? >> i think he points to the specifics in the plan. and to go back to what we were saying about this a minute ago, i'm not prematurely elated about this, i think the obama campaign is elated. i think the arguments are out, when they go out and do polling and focus grouping on what is actually in the ryan budget, it is bad for -- before this guy was on the ticket,...

Everything you said is obviously true and i believe in it. but here's one tricky part, we have the proudest point i think in "the wall street journal"/nbc poll, the question, do you think the country's going in the right direction, wrong direction, and what these two guys are offering today is a different direction. how can you sell if you're obama and biden the same direction we're on right now when only about 30 some% of people think it's the right direction? how do you do that? >> first of all -- first of all, i think the american people are fair. i think they understand that the president ...