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pm eastern. and because we know a big important hearing in the middle of a school day and work day is not the most convenient thing for everyone, we here at msnbc will have a prime recap of tomorrow's hearing, but tomorrow starting at 8 pm eastern. i'll be hosting that along with my dear friend chris hayes and others the whole team. that is 1 pm when the live hearing starts. 8 pm is when we will start our prime time recap. i can tell you one thing in advance of tomorrow's hearing. i can tell you for sure that the tattoo portion quotient among the witnesses is about to go way up. i do...

Saying i was going to veto the omnibus bill and paul ryan said don't do that, we'll get you the wall and then he went lame duck and then it wthe power was gone. why would congressional democrats give the president money that republicans never gave him for the wall and do you think there is a deal from the 17 lawmakers going to emerge? >> well, i mean, first there is the disagreement between the politicians and policy agreement over whether they will fund the wall. and then second there is the disagreement over whether there should be another government shutdown. and i think these two things ki...