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Folks say or look at and say, you know, this person doesn't look like what i'm used to seeing a ceo look like, they don't see that and is does that hurt the personality traits that you need, are they there in your culture beyond the book learning? >> that's a lesson i learned early on out of college. >> well, jeff, it's interesting because the battle hymn of the tiger mother, which was the parent extreme parenting story has translate under to the battle scars of the tiger children and now you're hearing from all these kids who say, wait, it's not all it's cracked up to be. you can memorize all...

>> ouch. but true, l.z. granderson wrote an opinion piece this weekend. kids may should go to school year round in part because we're trying to compete with the rest of the world where they're pretty serious about education. hi, l.z. what prompted you to write this piece? >> oh, man, saturd"saturday nig live" skit is a good place. it really started with my own frustrations as a parent. i have taken my son to four different schools in about two years desperately trying to get him into a school that's going to push him and have him ready to complete with the rest of the world and this ...