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Learn more at the explorer card dot com. >> he directed me to make the payments. he directed me to become involved in these matters. including the one with mcdougall, which is really between him and david packer. david packer's counsel, i just reviewed the documents to protect them. i give loyalty to someone who truthfully does not deserve loyalty. >> he was trying to hide what you are doing, correct? >> correct. >> neil: that was michael: with george stephanopoulos on "good morning america." the president saying he never told michael cohen to do anything wrong or certainly do any of this. whe...

There's nothing normal about him. >> neil: you wouldn't deal with him on anything. >> no. they need us a thousand times more than they need them. failed dell like they will speaking farsi -- >> he's the president. the congress took bush on with detainee -- obama didn't want to do anything against the iranian regime but we went ahead and the sanction iran. every now and then, congress goes its own way. i like the president. he's right about the strategic relationship being important. i think he's wrong to believe that mbs, we can ignore what he did. it undercuts the relationship. >> neil: it so...

Kelly. i really admire and respect him. the thing with nikki haley, those were two of my every people. looking at that, the obvious choices i think i jared kushner because he's already got the president's respect -- >> neil: wouldn't that be weird to have a family member? >> it would. ordinarily i would decry that as nepotism, but -- feel when the bob kennedy example. yeah >> neil: the president has to be comparable with his chief of staff but it's got to be someone who will stand up to the president. leon panetta, talking with bill clinton when he got the job, they had their differences but i...

Before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. >> neil: all right. more of this market sell off today premarket uncertainty, they don't know how this whole trade thing is going to work off with china. not only in china, they had some unusually weak in numbers coming out of ther...

A political job. john kelly was an american hero. he brought order to chaos. i will miss him. he's a wonderful man for a jared kushner is being mentioned. jared is politically really smart. this criminal justice bill, which if it gets over the line, is due to jared. who can work with others. a person like jared can do that, but he's got other good choices. >> neil: apparently, this has dragged on a wild, it's unusual to get this many declines. what does that tell you? >> i think chris christie wants to do something else. i think it's a hard job. >> neil: would you ever wanted? >> no. i like be...