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Collusion, the trump campaign, during the campaign with anything russia thus far. if they had it, flynn would've known about it, they would've charged him with it. if i'm the trump people, i'm thinking this is all processed stuff. >> neil: a lot of the stuff that goes against this is whether flynn at the time to become ready to become national security advisor was mr. presenting himself. you are arguing that even if he did, even if he he was -- the fact of the matter was the election was done, it was settled. >> the whole purpose of mueller to be around is to find out if the trump campaign get...

What it comes to campaign funds law violations, you have cohen, stormy daniels, a "playboy" model, and avenatti, against trump. be my guest if that's what you want to go. i never advocate violating the law, but from the trump's point of view, he signed nondisclosure agreements before to protect his family and his brand. >> neil: do you think that's what he did here? >> i know this, it ain't got a damn thing to do with russia. i'm not excusing this, but we are talking about sex, stormy daniels, michael avenatti, a playboy bunny your cheap witness. if you want to make that the centerpiece of 201...

Russians -- >> neil: i want to be clear, congressman, you don't think general flynn lied quickly he said he did. >> no, neither did the agents. the one so he agreed and pled guilty to lying? >> yeah. that's right. at the end of the day, i have not talked to general flynn. but the guy had to sell his house. he was out of money -- -- >> neil: i understand this. i know how much you honor the guy, praise the guy, very illustrious career. but he admitted he lied, he did lie. he told investigators he lied. that's just the reality, right? >> right, but it's also called "entrapment." if he admitted he...

Maybe the crowd you hang out. >> we have demons inside of us and it's hard for especially the lead in this is a homicide detective to have to be able to compartmentalize what he sees every day up on the job than trying to take it home with him. then this guy, the lead in this, he's three years sober, but then he's investigating a murder, everything starts to fall apart. a downward spiral with him. >> neil: did you know going into this that it would be this dark and this was your goal? to lead people thinking everything around you isn't what it seems? >> i think that's a little more realistic. ...

More money to secure our border, not less. >> neil: i just want to be clear, sir, you either get that 5 billion or we should shut it down? >> ticket to the people. 75% of the government is funded. you've got to deal with these folks next year. they are doing it out of spite. they hate trump more than they want the country to win in my view. if you don't want to do with it now, it gets worse later. mr. president is on the right side of the issue. $3.4 billion is the delta and a three billion-dollar budget. that's not unreasonable, but democrats have voted for far more than that. they are doing ...