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People are saying it's just a bunch of points and republicans are saying it's too much of an accommodation and lindsey graham says my plan is better. i think he's right by the way, but how does any of this help the emergency going on on the border. let's discuss this. two great guys to do it. ken and rick santorum. you have the law and pom ticks and the law. beautiful. let's just start with pure basic political reality. if you don't have great buy in on the right and you don't have buy in on the left, why do this this way right now? >> well, this is the attempt to try to bridge. there are folk...

Bullet. >> he never said the word silver bullet but he has never mentioned visa overstays. he never mentioned the fact that you get more drugs into ports of entry than through the open spaces he wants to put physical barriers across and we all know it but congress could also fix this and they could do it not in 20 minutes but in 20 minutes they could decide to do something and at least come to the table. ken, rick, thank you for having the conversation. appreciate it. best to both of you. all right. so next guest wants the president to be impeached and he has been putting up his own money and ...

They're not dealing with the housing of the families. >> i agree. >> and there's only so much money available through the declaration. >> i don't like that either. shame on both houses for you guys because you're not dealing. you say you care and you don't care. in fact, let's be honest. they're not even saying they care enough anymore. back in 2014 with the obama administration and unaccompanied minors everybody ran down there. with the first role of people coming through here, all the democrats ran down there and now they don't even go. you have little pockets of people that go. i was all al...

Too. >> the president defined a brown menace all about drugs and terror and people coming to rape and kill us. >> yeah, everybody realizes. >> but it's about kids and families. >> taking care of them. >> not about guys with bags full of fentanyl on their back. that was an exaggerated issue. >> they're in there. >> they're in there but they're not the majority that he painted it as a picture. >> they were never the majority. >> i know that. anybody that knows the facts knew that but he said it was a pence as a panacea and it wasn't. so why not do what needs to be done? >> no one ever said a bar...