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>> i was listening and i'm thinking if i were the chairman of the dnc and heard her, and go she's right. then you're telling some of these non-traditional candidates. there's no room for you here. boy, the risk of creating that fire storm too. there's a fire storm no matter what and i guess you just have to pick your poison. >> we know what happened with people perceive 2016 that the dnc was too involved there. a non-traditional candidate is president of the yiunited state. let's remember that. they can't risk. you can't risk the perception you're in there meddling. the governor's voice would ...

Biden as well as his partner on many of these things, there was never this kind of partisanship on foreign turf. >> can i tell one story. in 1990 we led a bipartisan party to the funeral of duerte. it was ted kennedy, who had been opposed to reagan central american policy. i was young. i was the chief of staff. i said here the the plan, the schedule. >> especially because of the deaths in el salvador. >> very controversial area. ted kennedy who i didn't know well. i was kind of in awe. i was doing little briefing for every one and he said can i interrupt. i said certainly. he said i just want ...