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Here's what's important, though, steve -- >> can i just ask you, though, to make the point but i want to follow up. how different does that make him -- this is a republican who just won the election for president, presumably -- >> sure. >> -- going to get a republican pick for attorney general. the other instances, the other cases, examples you're bringing up, how different is jeff sessions different than any other republican pick you're going to get? >> he's different in one fundamental way. what he has shown as a hostility to voting rights which from our standpoint is especially important. v...

If you don't vote, you don't count. this is first election in our nation that did not have the full protection of the voting rights act. largely because the supreme court invalidated a key position three years ago. what we have shown in the study that we have done looking at how states like the state of alabama and others responded to that decision is that they closed over 800 polling places, steve, in the last three years largely because they could take those actions because of the supreme court decision. so we think that voting rights is a key issue that has to be elevated and it's especiall...

The turner case. and i think that's something that has to be looked at. but he is also someone who had voted against, for example, the matthew shepard hate crime law. he showed hostility to the violence against women act. this is an individual who has shown a hostility to the enforcement of civil rights laws even though the position of attorney general would have a particular responsibility in that area. here's what's important, though, steve -- >> can i just ask you, though, to make the point but i want to follow up. how different does that make him -- this is a republican who just won the el...

$50. that's where candidates like ben carson, ted cruz are really succeeding, and some of top dollar donors are threatening to peel off to other candidates. >> you don't seem to be too optimistic about jeb -- >> no. >> as you know, on the last gop debate, carly fiorina said, look, i know during the first debate people told me i should smile more. and she put this fixed forced smile on her face. the audience reacted. the audience there, at the arena. then last week the ladies on "the view" talked about it. in fact, one of the hosts said that when she did the forced smile, carly was demented. an...

Surprise of that sort. >> i'm completely with e.j. on that, and if you are a progressive, a liberal these days in the church, you are hoping for like a felix frankfurther to surprise f.d.r. because you got to bet for a surprise because there aren't any liberal front runners. i have to get back to like in the united states when we vote, it's two who votes that matter. if you don't vote, you don't count. 28 of the voters are italian. start with that. 62 are european, which is already a majority of the electorate that actually votes. 67 were personally picked by benedict. don't think that won't m...