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Aleppo. but also in mosul. do you maerm it would be the country that the united states withdrawing of their responsibility? no. believe me, no. it was not done. >> we have a little time, but give me a sense of what you make of the sense of pessimism that has produced trump. does it puzzle you? you come from a part of the world that's growing. >> well, i think, you knower, asio know, there's no populism in asia, and frankly, asians are still in love with globalization, and as david miliband just said, china wants to rebuild and strengthen the international system and not undermine it. but if i ...

>> let me bring in mckay. he's a fascinating figure, roger. i'm a big fan of his. whether you agree with what he's done or not, he's a fantastic television producer. he's produced a cracking news network. it has a right wing slant, everyone knows that, but you can't argue with success. my view is if you don't like it, you don't have to watch fox. >> he's probably one of a handful of the most influential republicans in the country. you watch fox news, that is the face of conservatism right now. >> and if they turn on you, as sarah palin and others have found, it's history. >> yeah, newt gingric...

First lion death in at least six years. were you shocked when you heard this? and from what you have gleaned, what do you think may have happened here? >> you knower, piers, it's a shk anytime anyone loses a live. this was a nice place. i'm confused, was there anyone with her when this happened? as far as an intern or a volunteer, there had to be somebody there who had to see it. no one would go in there with a lion by themselves. i had to pick up the arm of a boy who lost his arm inten 10 where i raised lions in zoos. when i see a lion in the wild, they can take an animal out in less than ten...

I don't think there's a problem with that. i think that our core goals here, and, again, i'm not a representative on behalf of the mosque. i'm with the muslim public affairs council. but this is part of a bigger issue of people looking at mosques as potential threats, when in reality, they're just houses of worship alongside synagogues and churches and they should be treated that way. you know, these are peaceful people who are looking for a place to worship. and the organizers behind this project have nothing but goodwill to offer and want to be part of the fabric of new york. and i think tha...