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Agreements, new start, have served to constrain and cap strategic nuclear weaponry on both our side as well as the soviets and then on the russians. if we choose not to renew that i think it's next year or so, that could be very dangerous because that truly could setoff a cold war-like arms race. >> i need to get your perspective on this, another topic. after the president's top intelligence chiefs publicly contradicted him, it was earlier in the week, the president claimed that officials told him that coverage of their testimony was fake news and that they were misquoted. but i mean we heard ...

If we choose not to renew that i think it's next year or so, that could be very dangerous because that truly could setoff a cold war-like arms race. >> i need to get your perspective on this, another topic. after the president's top intelligence chiefs publicly contradicted him, it was earlier in the week, the president claimed that officials told him that coverage of their testimony was fake news and that they were misquoted. but i mean we heard them. it's got to be concerning to you. >> well, it is. i mean, this is a graphic, very graphic example of this no-fact zone reality bubble that the ...

The facts were. about intelligence threats around the world. and of course you have to wonder about what are foreign partners think. particularly those who share intelligence with us. and i worry about the leaders themselves who are could easily reach the point where i don't need this aggravation and i'm out of here. which would be a huge loss in all three of the kats cases. this is very disturbing. of course most people wait years to do revision history. president trump does it the next day. this is a manifestation of his no fact zone reality bubble to himself. >> i'll make an argument at the...