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Back and ship old problem either. One of the really special things that work in progress here is that even as a camera woman i get to have so much empathy and contribution to the story of this region better than anyone else. But it is particularly because youre a lot of people that you vote on political issues. People believe tell the real story i just meant it is to do in depth journalism we dont feel we have a good audience across the globe. Today on up front is it time to log off from an increasingly scandal plagued facebook last iconic tech pioneer jaron lanier and is the crown prince of saudi arabia really going to execute the countrys most famous cleric. Im in the hot sun weve all heard about the Saudi Crown Prince is alleged involvement in the murder of a saudi journalist but what about the clerics and activists hes rounded up at home ill speak to the son of imprisoned saudi shake out up but 1st with facebook in the news again for failing to grapple with russian meddling in legal data sharing and hate speech is it time to just log off the author of the recent book 10 arguments for deleting your social media account right now certainly think so this weeks headlines from new york all for Virtual Reality pioneer and iconic Computer Scientist jaron lanier. Jaron lanier thanks for joining me on up front the New York Times just published a bombshell report revealing that facebook knew about russian meddling in the u. S. Elections fail to penalize then president ial candidate donald trump for posting racist content. Compromised its uses data privacy and tried to smear its critics as anti semites to quote from the times headline facebook strategy was to delay deny and deflect you know facebook im sure youve probably interacted with does any of that surprise you whats your reaction to this report. Well. Im not entirely surprised by the report of the some of the details are surprising and shocking i think from the facebook point of view and from zucker bricks point of view he is always in what he perceives as a life or death struggle either facebook controls the world or it dies he doesnt perceive any kind of inbetween outcome and so therefore theres a kind of an ethic of anything at all is allowed because its either survival or total domination or total death and so if you perceive this all or nothing world which i think is a false perception then you lose all sense of proportion obviously and given the crises plaguing facebook which go back to the 2016 us election and beyond all Mark Zuckerberg the chair and c. E. O. And Sheryl Sandberg the c. E. O. Are they still the right people to be running facebook right now or is it time for them step aside well one of the peculiarities of facebook is that its the only Public Corporation thats large and is effectively controlled by one person and it in a sense thats an oxymoron a Public Corporation should have a powerful board it should have power powerful shareholders and the fact that there isnt governance is the 1st issue that its a one man shop is really really not ok its not ok for the world its not even in the spirit of capitalism i think its really anti market its antidemocratic so you should study the side and make it more democratic and capitalist. I think it would be good for the world if he stepped aside but the point is that there is no mechanism for him to do so. He year last year Mark Zuckerberg said facebooks mission is to give people the power to build a community and bring the world closer together given these recent revelations given your own research in this field do you buy that. Well you know from my perspective having participated in the creation of the internet in the 1st place its the internet that brought people together and yet whenever facebook shows up somewhere it seems to incite intercommunal bloodshed because the very way it functions is by grabbing peoples emotions and the easiest ones to grab are the negative ones the fight or flight emotions and so it tends to reach passions and then put those restrictions into the cycle until they become ever worse and then you start to have the routing here crisis crises in south india crises in rural africa so we see bizarre 3rd. Powers coming coming into play that are displacing democracy in countries as different as sweden and brazil what else do they have in common other than facebook you know that thats all they have some of course in britain which is owned by facebook and its interesting you raise the issue of the rohingya and the ethnic cleansing the New York Times did draw attention to that in their piece and say facebook ignored people who warned them about ethnic cleansing and their role in it the 2016 election of course is really brought this argument to the fore about facebooks role in politics as it were theres been a lot of debate and controversy over facebook say these allegations are untrue theyre inaccurate about their role in elections or whether they knew about russian meddling etc do you believe there is evidence to suggest that facebook had a measurable impact on the outcome of the u. S. President ial election on the outcome of the brics referendum that actually change votes i i would say theres enough strong evidence and enough consensus of enough people with enough different well intentioned and well informed perspectives that we should finally to say what the american intelligence establishment has said and what many others have said is that yes yes facebook did change the outcome of the American Election and facebooks property wazza did change the outcome of the brazilian election. Probably played a role in briggs it probably played a role in many other events in the world in recent years while and its interesting you say that the problem is much broader than facebook its social media itself you say that there are 10 arguments for deleting your social media accounts right now thats the title of your book so we dont have time to get into all 10 what do you know top 2 arguments for why people watching to get off of social media. Well i would say 1st of all there could be some good form of social media the problem with social media right now is that its designed to manipulate you and so if you enjoy free will if you enjoy being an honest person in the world you should not be using present day social media the Business Model of face work in other Companies Like twitter is anytime you connect with another person thats financed by some 3rd party you dont know about hes trying to manipulate you in some sneaky way so its this giant manipulation machine by design every penny they earn was earned because somebody thought they could manipulate somebody else another one is the 10th argument which is the spiritual one which is theres effectively a new religion thats being promoted by facebook and some of the other Tech Companies which is that people are just information machines were modules and were all being connected together into a giant computer through these companies and this giant computer will be this super intelligent ai that will be better than humanity and will inherit the world and so its essentially a new kind of religion and if you practice an existing religion or if youre an atheist whatever you are youre gradually being sucked into this other tech religion and its a crappy religion i mean its a silly religion and you might not be aware of it because it happens gradually and so id ask you to examine very carefully with your buying into this this bizarre new way of thinking and if you want to learn more about that you can find it in the book and just to check jar and do you practice what you preach do you participate in any social media yourself oh god no i would. Have an accountant one of those things i do fine without any account on facebook or twitter or any of the rest of you actually dont disappear if you delete your accounts some people might say that if everybody in the arab world for example had listened to your advice in 2012011 deleted their social media accounts we would have had some of the revolutions in the middle east we may not have the arab spring because in many ways those revolutions in egypt in tunisia theyve been dubbed the Facebook Revolution the twitter revolution thats what theyve been called yes so he is what happens every time somebody uses platforms like facebook and twitter to effect. Positive social change where theyre saying well we can make our country better we can we can achieve this or that the algorithms in the background take whatever those people have done and they broadcast whatever information those people have given the text the images everything and theyre looking for engagement from the broad population and what they do is they discover where the most engaged print is and the most engaged is inevitably with those people who are inflamed by it and then those people who are angry and and irritated scared whatever theyll zoom in on them and then theyll incited incite it introduced them to each other and then the whole tool will be find itself for the most and gauge meant which inevitably is with the people who are the most angry the most in secure the most jealous the most afraid and then it becomes a tool for those people and certainly what you have is to make it a recruitment tool for isis so you start with something that helps the arab spring you end up with something thats optimized for isis you say that these are not just social Media Companies they are behavior modification empires and that when he uses behavior is turned into an empire for rent a lot of people say you basically are questioning free will youre saying that we actually lost our ability to make free choices weve been so do you is there actual evidence for that because a lot of people say well actually no its fashionable to say were addicted were not really addicted to social Media Research is that unicef research is Oxford University said you know were actually not addicted to social media in the way that you say we are in your book. Well the last person who can recognize an addiction is the addict right and so from a technical point of view social media addiction is similar to gambling addiction and if youve ever talked to somebody with a gambling addiction youll see the same things oh im not addicted i just know how to be lucky i have a system. And its a very similar process facebooks own published research that went through academic peer review shows that they can alter peoples emotions without the people understanding and being able to be consciously aware their face what did it to them there was a famous study in which they made masses of people sad without those peoples consent and nobody understood that it was happening to them to say that you can be aware of that is a fools game you cannot be we know that you cannot be and just to be clear of the 5 big Tech Companies Google Facebook amazon Apple Microsoft you say its google and facebook that are doing the most damage to our behavior and our lifestyles not amazon which has been in the news this week for lots of criticism over the way its got money out of government Apple Microsoft you say its google and facebook is that right. Well look there are plenty of reasons to criticize us on microsoft and facebook and for full disclosure i have a relationship with microsoft now and for even full disclosure ive sold a company to google i actually really like big Tech Companies im not sort of anticorporate or anti Tech Companies however what distinguishes google and facebook is that they rely almost solely on the manipulation machine for their money they dont have any diversification theyre absolutely addicted to it like picture states are addicted to oil and so it does in my view corrupt them now the things im talking about these when appeal ations are all the Tech Companies engage in them to some degree but not totally so there might be additional reasons to criticize the other Tech Companies there probably are but its for is this particular issue of running a mass mental manipulation machine for profit thats really google and facebook and then i. You know you make me feel good or you make the argument very strongly in your book youre making the argument very eloquently today but do you worry that your connection to microsoft which you said full disclosure of being a research remark so didnt undermines your argument all parts of one of the quote unquote rivals youre one of the companies youll say isnt as bad as google and facebook doesnt undermine you in some way well i love Silicon Valley im a creature of it and i want us to be better and i feel that being a loyal opposition being able to say what were doing is wrong we need to change is my d. D. Its a its a and i used to be rather lonely doing this there werent too many others but in recent years its actually become much more acceptable and common for people in the Tech Industry to criticize the Tech Industry and i think its enormously healthy so. I dont think we should rely on people like me who are within the Tech Industry to be the sole critics or the sole agents of change that would be a problem but i think its crucial that there be people inside the industry willing to call the truth but i think it is really sorry but as an Industry Insider as someone who was there for the start of the internet and you say you love Silicon Valley you want to see improve on the one hand some people say your supporters will say see even john lennon is saying this and he was there from the beginning hes he knows it inside out others might say hold on that makes jaron lanier a hypocrite because he made his name in this field he made his money out of it and now hes criticizing everyone else whos still in the business you know i was one of the earlier people to criticize what were doing i started writing critical essays about this i wrote an essay in 92. 00 saying if we keep on going were doing there might someday be these bots that would do battle with each other to influence people and could throw an election so i mean i think were hear about this for a long time does it make me a hypocrite for sticking with it possibly but you know what if thats so use what im saying to your benefit. Read the arguments if theyre helpful if you find any power from them use and i really dont like whether im like who cares if im a hypocrite im just one person and im not running for office im not asking you for anything what i can give you is a perspective that you will get from many other places of how an insider saw us make these terrible mistakes and it sounded like an offer you turned on you would have to leave it there thank you so much for joining me on the front. Thank you so much for having me. The New York Times reported this week that shortly after journalist Jamal Khashoggi was assassinated in turkey a member of the saudi killed team instructed a superior over the phone to tell your boss but bosses believed to be Saudi Crown Prince mohammed bin salam who back at home continues to crack down on his critics one such critic is the prominent muslim cleric. Whos been held in solitary confinement for opposing the government and is now facing a possible death sentence joining me to discuss his situation is some are allowed are a saudi citizen who is now living in the United States and fears returning hes a senior fellow at Georgetown University center for Muslim Christian understanding. For joining me from boston the saudi authorities had your father in prison last year and charged with over 35. 00 different crimes including corrupting the land connection to a terrorist organization and offending them whats your response to the saudi authorities and to those charges well its the same operation going on is going on actually for dissidents brode for those who disagree at home for journalists economists public figures in general so my response is that the charge is actually represent how the state would crack down on any different view and on any person who disagrees and saudi prosecutors in september of this year called for your fathers execution to do you think theyre serious about that that they would really execute a cleric as prominent as your father salma out well do you think those who went to the saudi consulate were serious to take the life of the prominent journalist and veteran saudi. Its i mean its the same mentality its a pattern it didnt it did not start with my father did not start with its a pattern that we have it with we have seen through the past one year and a half since the crown prince came to power they did everything in their power to just silence others to crackdown on dissent to just do impulsive policy. Some might say yes it is a power your father was arrested imprisoned published by the saudi authorities in the past who in the 1990 s. When he was a quote unquote islamist rabble rouser his critics said many would say why hes being imprisoned with m. B. A. s the saudi government under any prince or king has always taken a very dim view of people who oppose the government is so its rotarian is always tyranny. Trying to ask and demand political reform is never something that you should be punished for political reform that my father and others spoke for. Is actually the solution is actually the path towards civil liberty will come up to the political reform in a moment just to confirm many say your father was arrested in september 27th because he refused to publish a tweet to his 14000000. 00 followers at the request of the saudi government that supported the saudi led blockade of qatar which full disclosure owns this channel owns aljazeera english is that true its a trigger its true because after he tweeted when he when he heard about the constellation between the qatar and saudi government he tweeted a lot between their hearts for the better of their people few hours after that tweet he was arrested that was the trigger thats of course the direct reason that he was arrested in september 2070 but there is. Long yes yes history and relationship and just to be clear before we get to that long history was your father being paid by the qatari government or anyone else in qatar because thats another accusation sometimes thrown against him by supporters of the saudi government has never paid and you know what if they if he was in any at any point paid by their government or was conspiring by any conspiring with any Foreign Agent they would have a lot of evidence to prove they would show it in this state they have all his evidence they didnt show anything and if you if you read the just amber and im against him of the charges its very prosperous you know when muhammad been so mom told bloomberg last month that 1500 saudi citizens were arrested over the last 3 years because he the crown prince was trying to quote get rid of extremism and terrorism without a civil war a lot of people especially in the west will hear that and say hes got a fair point theyve seen hate preachers extremist clerics coming out of saudi arabia for years and they think very often the prince wants to lock some of these people up to try to shut down extremism whats your response to long so all that says its not accurate he is tail in the hes attacking the very moderate voices that actually spearheaded the campaign against terrorism for the past 2 decades my father for example was the one who are. Called called a spade a spade he pinpoint terrorism and he called it and he demand justice against all terrorists in saudi arabia he was actually spearheaded the campaign really along with the state at the time that the state benefited from the old his campaign and his. Firsts your father is spoken out against terrorism as you say including against the 911. 00 attacks against Osama Bin Laden himself but the fact is that he was once a hero of good lardons the late alqaeda leader even fight in your fathers farm on the outer as his ideal personality you praise your father for in lightening muslim you. You accept surely at the very minimum that whatever he says now he was once a quote unquote extremist well you know what in the eightys bin laden like so much of their oil family and he was very close to them those who actually gave all the platform those who push the jihadi agenda at that time those who run who ran the show at that time those who should be responsible my father was a popular cleric he was admired by everybody the royal at the time he was respected by the royal family by the people but just in time a lot of hours just to be fair and get our facts right when billard turned against the saudi government when hed already carried out the World Trade Center attacks and he published his famous fatwa against americans and foreign invaders etc in the mid ninetys he was still praising you about know his not his actually just use in my fathers popularity to get into his audience as your father was never a fan of below no he was never a fan of that he did not even consider bin laden a scholar or a shift but he clearly has evolved in his views over the years i think its fair to call it what but he was never violent they were violent but hes evolved his views lets say in this very crude words from a more conservative position to a more liberal position i think westerners would put it as special and socially socially so for democracy or not muslims around sectarianism or his attitudes towards gay people is it fair to say that if your father was left undisturbed by the government unable to preach unable to talk to his 14000000 followers and tell about history news he could actually have. A more reformist impact on the saudi population the muhammad bin so much yes vitriol and thats why i havent seen a man attack him because he could pull the wrong end under the quote unquote reformist agenda it could expose so the reformist agenda that the state now is saying its pushing for so on muhammad bin salma Jamal Khashoggi and his gruesome death at the hands of this team of saudi assassins in istanbul do you believe m. B. s muhammad been sold on the Saudi Crown Prince gave the order to kill Jamal Khashoggi. Well you know what gave the attorney general the order to seek Death Penalty against my father for similar views of that of cheese whole actually there are reports even of that and there are torture in so do prison while im speaking right now turkey and just said it was reportedly dad ended torture in saudi arabia. Man a do we shes also reportedly dad but were not sure why you believe the crown prince is responsible for these deaths. Were ordered that whoever so that will actually will be responsible for the death of Jamal Khashoggi abdullah when Jamal Khashoggi was on the show a lot from back in march he said he didnt quote want to be the next fall model i would im referring to your father being in prison at the time tragically he ended up meeting a fate worse than your fathers dare i ask do you know worry what will happen to you how much of a threat do you think there is against you as a saudi citizen now living in the us criticizing the saudi authorities while well i thought some point i thought its very difficult for the state to use the long arm to reach dissidents approach and those those who just did not present themselves as dissidents. And me. But now after whats happened. I think everyone is i mean that message actually the state sent is that everyone is a threat in everyone we can we should be one everywhere so its very very dangerous and we have seen you have to do i get threats like every hour every day on twitter i get threats from different parties yeah and i believe you have more than a dozen members of a family insider whove been banned from traveling as true so they can come and see you and you can go and see them yes. One last question abdulla youve been here in the u. S. Since the summer of 2017 before your fathers arrest back home in saudi arabia do you have any message for donald trump for jared crucial for john bolton for these hard core supporters of m. B. A. s and the saudi government here in washington d. C. Well if you want to perpetuate a Good Relationship that lasts longer and for the best interest of both parties we should do that with these people with the saudi institutions if one individual was impulsive was really down juris there are many alternatives we have seen that even within the royal family there are so many royals who could or could understand the reformist agenda the real reformist agenda could allow for a margin of freedom for the people could could protect the basic rights of the saudi people so whats the n b a b s a gender and his team is it producing is actually the environment there establishes that could establish. An environment for terrorists or flourish and to live up to the louder well have to leave it there thank you so much for joining me on that front thats our show up front will be back next week. 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