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from internet streaming sites. fresh hope for millions of people with type 2 diabetes, after a new clinical trial doctors are calling "a watershed moment". and four artists in the frame for britain's most prestigious art award, the turner prize. we're live in hull, the uk's city of culture, where the ceremony is being held. our main story at 5, a review ordered by the government has concluded that it is "conceivable" that the bombing at a concert at the manchester arena in may, in which 22 people were killed, could have been prevented. the intelligence service, mi5, received information about salman abedi, the bomber, before the attack but failed to put him under investigation. david anderson qc, the government's former independent reviewer of terror laws who wrote the report, added that it was "unknowable" whether re—examining abedi would have thwarted his plans. this report is from richard lister. 0h oh my god... voiceover: march this year, a suicide bomber hasjust blown himself up in manchester arena, killing 22 people, one of five attacks this year which prompted questions about the effectiveness of the police and security services. the suicide bomber in manchester, salman abedi, someone bomber in manchester, salman abedi, someone who mi5 were aware of, and had received new information about but not acted on in time. it is conceivable, says the report today, that he could have been stopped. conceivable, says the report today, that he could have been stoppedm hindsight it is quite obvious, that having received that intelligence, mis having received that intelligence, mi5 should have opened an investigation, who knows what that investigation, who knows what that investigation would have found, the fa ct investigation would have found, the fact is, they did not, they did not interpret the intelligence that way, the opportunity was missed. very sadly, the attack got through. mi5 says it is still unlikely that reopening the investigation into salman abedi would have stopped him and the report suggests they probably could not have prevented the other four incidents this year. but the man who led the london bridge attack in june but the man who led the london bridge attack injune had been under investigation by mi5 since 2015, the investigation by m15 since 2015, the report says that people like him could be tracked more closely, it says that m15 should share intelligence with other agencies who could monitor such individuals, put additionalfocus on could monitor such individuals, put additional focus on right wing extremists and use data more effectively to track those planning attacks. the key to dealing with thoseis attacks. the key to dealing with those is to set tripwires, so that if they do something suspicious, whether that is travel or contacting the wrong people or maybe an interesting history of online purchasing, then the authorities are notified and able to do something about it. secretary amber rudd. the home secretary said today that nine terror plots had been disrupted since march. m15 and counterterrorism policing are currently running well over 500 live operations, one third up since the beginning of the year, involving roughly 3000 subjects of interest, in addition, there is over 20,000 further individuals or closed subjects of interests who have previously been investigated and may again pose a threat. the government says it is not possible to stop every attack, even though the vast majority of plots are detected. it says eve n majority of plots are detected. it says even marginal improvement in the way that anti—terrorist police and security services operate could save lives. lord carlile was david anderson's predecessor as independent reviewer of anti—terrorism laws. lord carlile, welcome to bbc news at five, let me ask you first of all, the recommendations from this report are important, do you believe that this bombing could have been prevented 7 this bombing could have been prevented? i believe there is possibility that it could have been prevented, as david anderson said, when presenting his excellent and very independent report, but the view of m15 and other authorities is that there could have been prevented, possibly, it is most unlikely it would have been, i think what is much more important is not examining the manchester event with hindsight, but ensuring that the 126 recommendations that have been agreed are put into effect as quickly as possible, so that the triage of terrorism suspects is improved. and when you... when you talk about that, you are talking that triggers, that david anderson was referring to, in richard ‘s report. tripwires, yes. which of those would have applied here? two that i would emphasise, knowledge to be derived from community policing, i think it is very important for the level of cooperation between counterterrorism police and community police to be closer, the other relates to port powers, there are many officials, including police, at ports of entry and exit, salman abedi may have been caught as a result of better triage at ports of entry. gizzi had come from libya, where he had possibly been trained to carry out the very terrorist outrage that he did carry out. we need to be sure that port intervention. —— he had come from libya. we need to make sure they are pa rt libya. we need to make sure they are part of a well organised form of triage. khuram butt was able to take pa rt triage. khuram butt was able to take part in what became the london bridge attack, and he himself was being monitored. that must demonstrate the limitations of doing so, when you cannot have 24—hour surveillance for every single potential suspect. is an example of how important judgment is, potential suspect. is an example of how importantjudgment is, beverley defensiblejudgment was how importantjudgment is, beverley defensible judgment was made to the effect that khuram butt did not present a present danger to anybody, and so he was not moved up the list of priorities, that turns out to have been wrong. but the way in which thosejudgments have been wrong. but the way in which those judgments are exercised as to be improved, that is part of the 126 decisions that have been made for better protection of the country, the authorities have been interdicting one terrorist outrage every month since march, as the home secretary said in the house of commons. and yet three significant attacks have happened this year, four including the finsbury attack. that will raise questions about whether thejudgments that will raise questions about whether the judgments are the best possiblejudgments in whether the judgments are the best possible judgments in all the circumstances that can be made. that may reflect on how m15 operates and how it is organised. i believe those questions have been addressed in the 126 recommendations and it is right that we have asked those questions. but i think that for the future, we must try to ensure that we connect up must try to ensure that we connect up all the dots that might lead to a decision that someone represents a real suspect. lord carlile, former independent review of counterterrorism legislation, thank you very much for being with us on bbc news. the leader of the democratic unionist party's mps, nigel dodds, says the irish government and the european union are to blame for holding up the brexit negotiations, not the dup. theresa may's meeting with officials in brussels ended without agreement yesterday after the dup refused to back plans intended to avoid checks having to be introduced at the irish border when the uk leaves the eu. the european commission has made it clear talks can resume as soon as the uk is ready, although when that will be is unclear. in the commons this lunchtime, labour branded the government an "embarrassment", but the brexit secretary said he was still confident of sufficient progress this week. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. 320 miles long, almost as many crossing points, the british and irish governments do not want this to become a so—called hard border after brexit, with customs posts and checkpoints, it has now become painfully apparent that in the current political landscape, that is easier said than done but the prime minister said that there is still encouraging signs. there are talks with the european union, they have made a lot of progress, there is still a couple of issues we need to work on. the irish government says the way to guarantee no hard border is to insure that rules and regulations remain the same across the whole island of ireland, but the dup believed that will mean in effect an internal border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, they say that the final text of the proposed agreement was at the last minute and was unacceptable. we will not accept any principled or language in phase one which lays the foundations for separating northern ireland politically or economically from the rest of the united kingdom. the prime minister and our government have made clear that the economic and constitutional integrity of the uk will not be compromised in any way. the views of the dup in westminster are crucial, they are propping up theresa may's minority government. downing street are confident they can meet the concerns of the northern ireland allies. in house of commons today, labour working to exploit the government's current difficulties. what an embarrassment. it is one thing, mr speaker, to go to brussels and fall out with those on the other side side of the negotiating table but it is quite another to go to brussels and fall out with those supposedly on your own side of the negotiating table! we recognise that as we except we must respect the integrity of the customs union and the market, but we also must respect the market, but we also must respect the integrity of the united kingdom. speaking to his parliament, the irish prime ministers said he thought a deal with britain had already been done, and unless it needed to be resurrected by four eu leaders meeting next week, then he could block the start of trade talks. we cannot move onto this based on until we have assurances that we need, and that there will be no hard border. —— phase two. and the shortages we have been promised for 18 months and even longer. as things stand, the ball is in london, the ball is in london's court. today, theresa may's cabinet collea g u es today, theresa may's cabinet colleagues were remaining tight—lipped about the prospect of a deal. in a moment we'll be hearing from our ireland correspondent chris page who's in stormont, but first to westminster and our chief political correspondent vicki young. how would you characterise the mood in the house of commons this afternoon as david davis was giving his remarks. pretty incredible, feels as though the government have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, this was supposed to be a week in which they had the signal to move on and talk about the future relationship, talk about a trade deal to calm conservative nerves, make the business world feel happier about some kind of movement, talking about some kind of movement, talking about a possible transition deal, instead, here we are, and the pressure has piled onto theresa may. today she had notjust some labour mps, some on her own side, the liberal democrat saying, there is one answer to this irish border question, we stay in the customs union, stay in the single market. the other side of the argument, talking to brexiteers, who are becoming increasingly impatient, even those willing to wait to see what might happen with some kind of negotiation. a seem to be saying, we have given enough, we have talked about giving 50 billion euros, talked about giving the european court ofjustice some influence during transition but now it seems they are not serious about doing a deal, obviously a problem here. we are told theresa may is due to speak with arlene foster, leader of the dup, and to sinn fein, we do not think so far those conversations have happened. that is the key to all of this as to whether theresa may can go back to brussels later in the week as downing street say that she wants to in order to secure some kind of deal. i think that there is a big problem for her now, trying to keep all these people onside, people who have shown patients up to now, in the end, she will be hoping that all sides do want to do some kind of deal. that may make them go forward if they can find the right diplomatic language to get that breakthrough, and so far they have not managed to do that. thank you. stormont, politics is in abeyance, in terms of the northern ireland assembly suspended for many months now, northern ireland politics at the heart of this, being discussed around the negotiating table, and discussions as well later this week. as late as last thursday it was being suggested they would not except anything that treats northern ireland differently from the rest of the uk, was that a mistake by the british government or did the dup shift position? the dup's deputy leader nigel dodds held his westminster press conference today, he said the dup had a site of the text that was on the table in brussels but said they only got that late yesterday morning. they said that was too late in the process. —— sight. they said it was unacceptable to them and they let the government knows immediately. the dup has been keen to stress that their position through this has been consistent, they don't think anybody should be surprised, that whenever into new regulatory alignment was meant to be in the draft document, that it was not something they could go for, i think you are seeing some of the experience in the many political negotiations they have been involved in down the years, throughout the political process, the peace process coming to the fore, nigel dodds said, words matter, the dup know the value of the text that is on the table in any negotiating, they know that every word will be analysed and wade and may be interpreted in different ways. in view of the dup, what was proposed yesterday was too ambiguous. they did say that they we re ambiguous. they did say that they were prepared to concede that there could be some cooperation with the irish republic in some areas, nigel dodds pointed to the point that there is an all ireland energy market and said that there could be some kind of regulatory alignment in some kind of regulatory alignment in some areas. he said the dup would remain opposed to northern ireland continuing to fold the roles of the european single market and european customs regulation in general. you also heard from the taoiseach, under pressure from gerry adams, sinn fein leader, as to whether a text had been agreed, they insisted that it had been, only lunchtime yesterday that ireland's new that things were falling apart. thank you very much. a government review into terror attacks in the uk says opportunities were missed to stop the manchester arena bomber. ministers say no part of the uk will be treated differently in the brexit talks as labour branded their approach an "embarrassment". a lifeline for millions of type two diabetes sufferers, after a new clinical trial that doctors call a "watershed moment". in sport, best day in the ashes series so farfor in sport, best day in the ashes series so far for england has given them a chance of victory in the second test, joe root will lead the chase on the final day, 178 runs we re chase on the final day, 178 runs were quiet, 17 wickets in hand. is; “n i- qszn; =; cad ’ "" ’ ”" e champions [éi—i action, chelsea in champions league action, chelsea in champions league action, chelsea already through. a win against atletico madrid at stamford bridge will see them win their group. ronnie 0'sullivan has cruised into the last 16 of the uk championship in york, beating michael white, 6—1. i will be back in the next 15 minutes with a full update. a bbc investigation into three popular live streaming apps has found evidence of men trying to groom children, asking them to carry out sexual a cts and exposing them to obscene material. it comes as the national crime agency says it arrested more than 190 men across the uk in a single week in connection with sexual offences against children, including on live—streaming services. the agency is warning that online sex offenders are increasingly using these kinds of apps to target young people. a warning that this report from angus crawford contains material you might find disturbing, particularly if you have young children present. this lady is 20, she is an online safety campaigner. we have transformed her into a 1a—year—old, and she will try some of the most popular live streaming apps to see what it is really like to be a teenage girl online. first, periscope, the live video app from twitter, used by children all over the world. five, six, seven peoplejoining within seconds. in minutes, the conversation turns sexual. she is 14... conversation turns sexual. she is 1a... someone has asked her to take off her shirt... next, only launched last year, liveme, it has 20 million users, some send direct messages no one else can see. to got it out... as soon as i he has got it out... as soon as i started... isaid he has got it out... as soon as i started... i said i was 1a and a girlandi started... i said i was 1a and a girland i was started... i said i was 1a and a girl and i was inundated. this guy is on camera, what is he doing? well... he was naked! and you told him you were 1a. can you imagine if you had been a 14—year—old girl. him you were 1a. can you imagine if you had been a 14-year-old girl. my first reaction would be to be confused, for a second it is nice having the attention, then it gets quite dark quite quickly, really. having the attention, then it gets quite dark quite quickly, reallym is happening to real children right now, look at this broadcast on periscope, two girls we cannot identify around 11 years old, 2000 people watching, some dare them to lift up their shirts. read the comments, as men ask them to go further. for those girls, it may have seemed like fun, but it can be devastating. i found ifound her i found her inconsolable. ifound her inconsolable. this is an actress but the words are true, those of a mother whose tenure old daughter tried out 0megle for fun. he switched on his webcam, shoulder hurt —— showed her his private parts. -- but the words are true, those of a mother whose ten—year—old daughter 0megle used. he was never located, this mother says that parents need to speak with children about the dangers. that is also the message behind this video, launched today, but for some in law enforcement, that is not enough, the tech companies need to do more. the industry has emerged very rapidly, soi industry has emerged very rapidly, so i think it is important to reflect on how they are ensuring younger children are not using their services and abusing their services, age verification, thinking about moderation techniques they might be able to use. nobody from these app companies would be interviewed but periscope says it does not tolerate this behaviour. 0megle did not respond to our requests and neither did liveme. when children can broadcast to the world from their own bedrooms, whose job broadcast to the world from their own bedrooms, whosejob is it to keep them safe? angus macdonald was report was about quds. quds shah, who was featured in that report, is a student and online and online safety campaigner, and is here with me now. we saw that trans—formation, when you are sitting in front of the computer, what was that experience like? truly terrifying, much worse than i expected it to be, quite harrowing to be in that, i am a medical student, used to seeing shocking cases on a daily basis but this was one of the most traumatised. what prompted joined dress ? traumatised. what prompted joined dress? i'm hoping to specialise in paediatrics, child health and safeguarding is a prime —— priority for me. you are doing this as a grown woman, experienced adult, did you start to think to yourself, how would i have felt if this had been me, asa would i have felt if this had been me, as a 14—year—old? did you understand how it might feel for a child inadvertently exposed to these kind of things. definitely, i reverted back to that stage and you feel vulnerable and helpless, like there is nothing you can do... no one should be exposed to that level of explicit content, that alone a 1a—year—old. of explicit content, that alone a 14-year-old. is it part of the problem that children who are exposed to this, teenagers, have that sense of, they cannot say anything to anyone, they almost feel guilty about the fact that they saw this and therefore, that makes them not willing to go and talk to someone or seek help... to seek support. there is a great deal of self blame, for children who experience sexual abuse online, versus off—line, that is a proven fa ct. versus off—line, that is a proven fact. there is a lot of secrecy, they feel they are not able to speak to parents and friends and teachers, they feel they are to blame because they feel they are to blame because they were using the app... that is not the case. what are we talking about? we looked at liveme and periscope and 0megle. for those who do not know, the user interacts with real people in real time. do not know, the user interacts with real people in realtime. yes, carrying out a live stream. when their child comes home, doing homework, putting that on, the public can interact by commenting and sending them direct messages. public can interact by commenting and sending them direct messagesm terms of what parents can do, other adults in the house, what sort of things do you think need to be looked at? really, the parents, if they are worried that their child is being groomed online, they can file an online report to see, the child exploitation and online protection service, and also to speak with their children about the apps they are using. —— ceop. talk about blocking functions and reporting functions, make sure privacy settings are enabled. the ultimate responsibility should not be on pa rents responsibility should not be on parents in terms of safeguarding, it needs to come from the government, and legislation, to make changes happen. without legislation, do you believe companies will do this? the net worth is about $500 million, so there is a lot of money in these apps. there is a lot of money in these apps, and there needs to be government legislation with regard to age verification and 24—hour live moderation and more stringent a regulator to see what these apps are doing. thank you for coming in to talk with us. thank you very much for helping us with this experiment which has exposed some their important and very disturbing situations. google has announced plans to employ ten thousand people to search for violent and extremist content on its video—sharing website, youtube. the website's chief executive says the company will also track videos that risk children's safety, and will make more use of technology that finds extremist videos. a man has admitted causing the manslaughter of his five—year—old stepson by gross negligence after he drowned on a family trip to a water park. charlie dunn, was discovered in a pool at bosworth water park near hinckley in leicestershire in lastjuly, two hours after being allowed to play unsupervised in the park. his step—dad paul smith had originally denied the charge, but pleaded guilty at birmingham crown court this afternoon. commuters are facing their biggest jump in average train fares in five years, after the rail industry said everything from season tickets to off—peak leisure tickets would rise in cost. prices will go up by an average of 3.4% from the 2nd january, for both regulated and unregulated tickets. but there'll be a previously announced rise of 3.6% for many commuters paying for season tickets fares which are regulated by the government and represent around half of all tickets. it's infuriated commuter groups, fewer than half of passengers are satisfied with the value for money of train tickets, according to the passenger watchdog transport focus. richard westcott is at east croydon station in south london. that station in south london. time of year again when v out that time of year again when we find out how much all of affairs will go up out how much all of affairs will go up starting with january and then there is a huge row, because for yea rs, there is a huge row, because for years, campaigners have been saying, you have got to freeze these fares, they have been going up faster than wages, year upon year upon year. young people feel it especially because it is hard to get a job when you have to spend this much. rail company spending tens of billions of pounds keeping trains going and improving them, some beautiful new stations and new trains, more carriages, more space and they had to cope with this huge spike in demand. you get a very predictable response from people when you ask them, nobody likes asking more money, we asked commuters what they thought. it is won 12 of most peoples average probably even more! just imagine if a business did that... just imagine if a business did that. . . the just imagine if a business did that... the trains are so unreliable, so i can barely get to myjob. i do not think it is value for money. incomes are not going up, thatis for money. incomes are not going up, that is for sure, in terms of the cost of living. this is another kick in the teeth for commuters trying to get to and from work most of the time. it is a high one... but what to do... it isa time. it is a high one... but what to do... it is a difficult one. i think we have to pay for what we want. a lot of people contact me today saying, pretty similar things, why does this keep happening? the simple answer is, for several years now, the governments have been shifting who pays the bill for the railways, a few years ago, 50% came from tax and 50% from train tickets. now it is nearer 65 to 70% from train tickets, they want the people using the trains to pay a higher proportion, of the overall bill. that is what is happening, that is why fares go up. all happens again injanuary, why fares go up. all happens again in january, that why fares go up. all happens again injanuary, that is when they come into force, you can look forward to that(!) indeed. if you are going on your travels before fares go up, let's see what the prospects are for the weather forecast. a lot going on through the next few days, at the moment, fairly quiet, then we have storm caroline bringing windy weather late in the week. through the evening and tonight, cloudy and breezy across the country, some rain in the far north—west, dry for most of us, frost free, seven or 8 degrees. through the day on wednesday, another cloudy day, some breaks, perhaps a view for wales as well. scotland and northern ireland seen the arrival of rain, wind really picking up, another mild day, wind will strengthen as we move through wednesday night, even severe gales at times, exposed irish sea... parts of scotland and during thursday, as storm caroline rolls in, wins as strong as 80 mph, across parts of scotland, even through the central lowlands. keep an eye on your hmmfi lowlands. keep an eye on your forecast and you can check the warnings on the bbc weather website. this is bbc news, the headlines. a review of terror attacks in the uk highlights missed opportunities to stop the manchester arena bomber before he carried out the attack. they had peripheral vision of perhaps what he was thinking of planning. but at the end of the day they were too late. the prime minister is under pressure to get brexit talks back on track — after yesterday's impasse by the dup on the irish border. a warning for parents — children using live internet streaming sites are being exploited by sex offenders. also coming up — we'll be in hull — where the city is gearing up to host one of visual art's most prestigious awards — the turner prize. before that we can take a look at the sport. england have every chance of levelling the ashes series tomorrow after their best day on tour so far. they bowled australia out for 138 in their second innings and with joe root at the crease they will chase 178 more runs for victory with six wickets in hand. our sports correspondent andy swiss is in adelaide. it began a peaceful adelaide tuesday but turned into the tensest ashes nailbiter. england began with barely a flicker of hope. they needed early wickets and found them, jimmy anderson inspired, taking five in total as his team—mates clung onto their catches. australia's lead was growing all the time though. england kept chipping away. if only they'd bowled like this in the first innings. by the time australia were all out for 138, england's target was still a massive one. 354. they would need a record run chase. as mark stoneman and alastair cook eased them past the 50 mark, england dared to dream. but then a reality check — both went in quick succession and another soon followed. james vince wafting his wicket away — not what the occasion called for. under floodlights and the fiercest pressure, dawid malan and joe root hung in there. australia kept appealing, england kept surviving, just. it was pure sporting theatre. root reached a gutsy half—century as the pair rekindled england's hopes. but ten minutes from the close, a final twist. malan gone. australia are still favourites, but england are 178 runs from something very special. this has been some fight back from england. barely 2a hours ago, they looked beaten, the ashes all but gone. and yet they still have a chance of a remarkable win. to be honest, we are delighted to be in this position, to have any chance of winning the game, which we didn't think we would have after the first couple of days. it's good for us. 0bviously, there's a huge amount of work left in this game if we have got any chance of winning it. but we are in with a chance which is all we could ask for after the first two days. and so an enthralling finale awaits. from the brink of defeat, a chance of one of cricket's greatest victories. and play resumes at 330 tomorrow morning. it's a champions league night, the final round of group matches — celtic can't qualify for the knock—out stages but they'll book a place in the europa league spot if they avoid a heavy defeat against anderlecht. manchester united need just a point from their match against cska moscow to guarantee top spot in theirgroup. i'm going to make a few but not too many changes. we have not qualified yet. we did not finish first in the group yet. there are other clubs also involved in the qualification. i need to keep a certain balance in the team. chelsea are already through — they take on atletico madrid at stamford bridge knowing that victory would guarantee them top spot in theirgroup, but atletico also need to win to have any chance of prgressing. five—time champion ronnie 0'sullivan is through to the last 16 of snooker‘s uk championships after thrashing the michael white 6—1. playing on his 42nd birthday, 0'sullivan was dominant early on against a slow starting white. he finished the match with a final break of 65. this takes him a step closer to matching steve davis's record of six championship titles. elsewhere, john higgins beat leading yan bingtao. finally before we go england forward maro itoje could be a doubt for the six nations after breaking his jaw playing for saracens at the weekend. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website and we'll have more for you in sportsday at half past six. hopefully we will bring you the very important news conference from the ioc live. they're going to review their decision about whether russia can take part in the winter games next year. we look forward to that. more now on the brexit negations where no agreement has been reached with the eu after a dup backlash against proposals for the irish border. nicola sturgeon, head of the scottish national party said the northern ireland concession showed the benefit of keeping the closest possible trading ties with the eu. in a moment we'll get more on the reaction from the snp, but first let's get the thoughts of the scottish conservatives leader ruth davidson. this is about making sure that the difficult issue, and it was always going to be a difficult issue, of the border between ireland and northern ireland when we leave the eu could be solved but we've got to do that as a whole uk position and myself and my colleagues are absolutely united on the idea that we don't leave one part of the uk behind. if something's good enough for northern ireland then it's good enough for scotland, england and wales as well. joining me now from westminster is stephen gethins, foreign affairs and europe spokesperson and mp for the scottish national party. thank you for being with us. picking up thank you for being with us. picking up on what nicola sturgeon said yesterday, is that situation now in some ways less likely as result of the objections the dup raised? one thing the prime minister promised in the general election was the one thing she got right, that we would have a coalition of chaos and that is what we have with the tories and the dup. it been striking that we should have for such a big issue like leaving the eu, you should have for such a big issue like primeg the eu, you fiafit to z .. h. allgsrttgé—ii = —' — ' ' ' . ' not just one party and notjust one party in northern- soi and notjust one party in northern- so i think what yesterday ireland. so i think what yesterday showed is you can get solutions, practical ways to get a solution to keep us in the customs union and single market, and if you can have a solution for northern ireland there is no reason why you cannot have it for scotland as well. the only impediment to that it strikes me is the political impediment jane impediment to that it strikes me is the political impedimentjane held backin the political impedimentjane held back in whitehall. is the political impediment as you describe it simply the expression of the will of the majority in the uk that we should leave the eu lock, stock and barrel. why this is difficult is we campaigned ona why this is difficult is we campaigned on a blank piece of paper. so it is for parliamentarians to fill in the blank. scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain, the snp said ok we want to remain but if there is going to be a compromise, that could be scotland remaining pa rt that could be scotland remaining part of the single market. that ta kes part of the single market. that takes us out of the eu, we leave that but retain membership of the customs union and single market. we're not saying that that is the best option but it is the least worst option protecting the maximum number ofjobs. worst option protecting the maximum number of jobs. and that worst option protecting the maximum number ofjobs. and that must be a priority, protecting jobs and the economy. if you were theresa may right now, how would you offer reassurance to people in northern ireland who are worried about their identity being altered longer term if this kind of regulatory convergence were to be maintained and the rest of the uk including now scotla nd and the rest of the uk including now scotland were on different path? because identity is something you understand about in scottish politics as well as somebody in northern ireland. this is not about identity certainly from a scottish perspective, it is aboutjobs and the economy. well the dup say it is. former northern irish perspective, ifi former northern irish perspective, if i may intrude on their politics, membership of the eu was enshrined in the good friday agreement and important to that agreement and that was overlooked during the eu referendum. and vote leave and the ministers who were part of that and now part of the government have a great deal of responsibility around that. if i were theresa may, and yes it is difficult but much of that is of her own making, i would look to reach out. she's only talking to one party in northern ireland and should be talking to all the parties in northern ireland. she's only reaching out to that one party when she should be reaching out to the labour party, the liberal democrats, the snp. everyone is willing to make compromises in this difficult situation and in parliament of minorities there is the opportunity to reach out to other political parties the way there often is not when you have a majority but it requires a cultural change at westminster. and with devolved administrations, no one party has overall majority and we need a change of culture in westminster. thank very much. there's encouraging news for people with type 2 diabetes — after doctors in newcastle and glasgow carried out a trial on 300 people. they say they have reversed type 2 diabetes in nearly half of the patients who took part and they're calling it a ‘watershed moment'. the treatment involves losing weight — by being restricted to just 800 calories a day for up to five months on an all—liquid diet. the charity diabetes uk says the approach could help millions of people. 0ur health correspondent james gallagher has the details. isobel murray thought she was facing a lifetime of type 2 diabetes, but she's lost more than four stone on the trial and has now completely changed her relationship with food. her disease is in remission. it's freedom to live your life again and know that you're not in that cycle anymore and know that i can control this, and i will never go there again, never will i be taking diabetic medication again, i'll do whatever i have to do to make sure that that never happens again. she spent 17 weeks drinking these. they‘ re nutritionally balanced soups and shakes to help trigger weight loss. and that's it. there's 200 calories in a glass, and you're allowed four of them every day. that's just sweet, really, but that's your lot. for up to five months. the pancreas is critical in type 2 diabetes. if excess body fat is stored around the organ, then it reduces the production of the hormone insulin. that leads to levels of sugar in the blood getting dangerously out of control. but losing weight makes the fat cells disappear and the pancreas work properly again. doctors say 46% of patients on the trial put their type 2 into remission. we now have clear evidence that weight loss of 10—15 kg is enough to turn this disease around. it's hugely exciting that we can do that in routine practice, with ordinary nurses, ordinary dieticians, ordinary gps, and ordinary patients. i don't have diabetes anymore, i don't feel like a diabetic, so i don't think about it anymore. i've got my life back. and isobel says if she can do it, then anyone can. james gallagher, bbc news. the actor dustin hoffman and tv host have engaged in a fierce argument over sexual allegations made against the star. anna graham hunter had worked with him as a production assistant in 1985. oliver said he thought the apology over those claims have felt like a dismissal.|j get claims have felt like a dismissal.” get no pleasure from this conversation. she wrote this one line ina conversation. she wrote this one line in a diary. saying no one is 100% good or bad. dustin is a pig but i like him a lot. that is both extremely generous and damning. do you believe all the stuff you read? i believe what she wrote, yes. because there's no point in her lying. there is a point, she has not brought this up for four years. an mp has broken down in tears in the commons after hearing how some people are struggling to cope as the result of welfare reforms. the backbencher was reacting to frank field has said he had to persuade one of his constituents to kill himself because he did not have enough money for food. how does an mp persuade someone to give them hope when i do not have hoped for them that things are going to radically improve, and what we do for a family that last year gave tories to the project for our christmas hampers but has so been reduced in circumstances that this year their little boy with hunger. well after hearing that story this is how the backbencher reacted. thank you. i do not know where to start after that. i'm humbled by the words from my honourable friend. no government is perfect. no benefits syste m government is perfect. no benefits system is perfect, no debate, no motion is perfect but we need to work together to make this better. heidi alan earlier. let's take a look at the headlines. a government review into terror attacks in the uk says opportunities were missed to stop the manchester arena bomber, salman abedi. ministers say no part of the uk will be treated differently in the brexit talks as labour branded their approach an "embarrassment". a lifeline for millions of type two diabetes sufferers — after a new clinical trial that doctors call a "watershed moment". tonight the winner of one of visual art's most prestigious awards will be announced. this year the turner prize will be given in the uk's city of culture, hull. for the first time since the award began in 1984 there is no limit on the age of the artist, previously you had to be under 50. jane hill is at hull minister where the awards ceremony will take place. thank you and this is the most glorious setting for the announcement of the award in just a few hours' time. the staff here are just doing the final reparations to get the place ready for the announcement. by ten o'clock tonight we will know which of the short listed artists will take home the prestigious turner prize. in just a couple of moments i will be speaking to goldie who is announcing the award. but first let's hear more about the short listed artists. their work is on displayjust a short distance away in the centre of hull at the art gallery there. rebecca jones is there. hello and welcome to the art gallery in whole, the turner prize this year is almost as much about politics and the world we live in today as it is about art. i think if you look at the work of andrea buttner you will see what i mean, she's interested primarily in poverty and has these eight large woodcuts of a hooded beggar with long outstretched, beseeching arms. then moving onto the painter, hurvin anderson, his parents were born in jamaica and he draws at caribbean heritage as well as his life growing up heritage as well as his life growing up in birmingham in his work. rosalind nashashibi is exhibiting two films in exhibition this year, one of them set in gaza and she gives us glimpses into daily life there. we see children playing in there. we see children playing in the streets and people eating and she merges documentary footage with stage scenario. and finally i want to show the work of lubaina himid, she was born in tanzania but now lives and works in preston and her main preoccupation is with black identity. so have a look at this elaborate stage set was larger—than—life cutout figures presided over by this imposing black figure. and there you are, the short list in just figure. and there you are, the short list injust a figure. and there you are, the short list in just a minute figure. and there you are, the short list injust a minute or so. figure. and there you are, the short list in just a minute or so. you win a prize just list in just a minute or so. you win a prizejust for list in just a minute or so. you win a prize just for that! thank you very much. let's talk to the director of the tate and to goldie. this is your first turner prize in thisjob, you took this is your first turner prize in this job, you took over in this is your first turner prize in thisjob, you took over injune. what are your thoughts about the short list? it is an amazing list, the most diverse we have seen in terms of age, gender, race and ethnicity, it covers every kind of work that we could think of. this painting, film, sculpture, print, ceramics. so we have an incredible range. it really reflects what i think is the best of british art at the moment. and goldie, why are you excited to be here tonight?” the moment. and goldie, why are you excited to be here tonight? i like the way the debate has been about is it art the way the debate has been about is itartand the way the debate has been about is it art and i think it should be controversial. and looking at the work, and their contribution as artists and how they reflect on their society because these are very political times. art is what is good for us and gives us a chance to reflect. and you worked a lot as a street artist. i'm still doing that, i'm still a very active artist. right now we're in a mixed media world, there is a lot of change and it is important, there are some phenomenal artists coming out worldwide and i think the way the tate gallery looks at celebrating that. i think i do not have the a nswe rs that. i think i do not have the answers but that is the whole point, it is what you take away from it. and how that reflects on you. you spoke about the diversity of the list what about the abolition of the age limit, has that played into it? i think itjust reflects age limit, has that played into it? i think it just reflects the times we're in, we're all living longer, artists making work across a much wider range of media and we want to celebrate and reflect that. and for quite a long time it was right to hold it to under 50 but looking at artists who are opening shows at the serpentine gallery in their mid—80s and at the height of the creative powers, we did not think it was right to draw along the tree—lined after which artists could not be considered for the prize. and do you have any favourites, how does that work in your position! it is like having a family, i have four amazing children represented as artists in this show and i think for me what is most exciting is i know that the jury most exciting is i know that the jury had to spend a long time this afternoon because all four of the artists are absolutely at the height of their powers. and so i really do not mind who wins tonight because to me it celebrates what british art is doing right now. fantastic. look forward to seeing you later. and you can find out who has won the turner prize tonight at 9.30pm on the news channel where we will have a full programme of coverage live from hull. for now, back to the studio. definitely one to tune in for this evening. it's been described as a planetary crisis — environment ministers meeting in kenya have agreed that plastic waste needs to be stopped from entering the world's oceans. scientists say they're shocked to discover the effect plastics can have on marine life — endangering animals such as turtles which can swallow foreign items in the ocean. the united nations resolution — which is set to be sealed tomorrow — is not legally binding. but ministers hope it will set the course for much tougher policies. 0ur environment analyst roger harrabin reports from nairobi. the plastic emma dimmick is everywhere. —— epidemic. it comes from as far as indonesia and japan and it is harming animals like turtles which in jest plastic pieces. half of the turtles brought infor pieces. half of the turtles brought in for treatment here for eating plastics end up dead. here is a lucky turtle. being measured before being released into the sea. it was brought in sick by a fisherman. the man who runs the total hospital says that the animals offer an insight into the pollution of the entire ocean. we focus on turtles because they are endangered and also there are quite charismatic, people like them. it is easier to get people to like turtles and maybe some other kind of weird fish. but also they are an excellent indicator species of ecosystem health. at the united nations in kenya these installations offer an artist insight into the impact of plastics in the oceans. you and environment ministers are discussing what to do about it. some nations are banning plastic bags completely. 0thers about it. some nations are banning plastic bags completely. others are more quarters. —— cautious. environmentalists want much faster action. the plastic, the tremendous amount of plastic that we use in our economies ends up in the ocean, and the ocean has been seen as a trash dump, where we dump everything we don't need. and that plastic never goes away, mostly. it floats on the surface, it falls down the bottom. we urgently need do something about it. scientist recently discovered that creatures right at the bottom of the sea had ingested plastic fragments, many of them have been carried thousands of miles from cities far inland. in nairobi for instance they ban plastic bags, but look at this. the un grinds slowly. while governments are figuring out how to progress, ordinary people have simply got to stop doing this. roger harrabin, bbc news, nairobi. owning a historic castle is something many of us might dream of, but few could make a reality, but thousands of people across the world have joined forces to do just that. by contributing as little as £115 each, the group raised over £4a0,000 to buy the neglected 13th century chateau mothe—chandeniers in western france. the buyers responded to an online fundraising call and intend to restore it to its former glory. time for a look at the weather. here's sarah keith—lucas. we have some pretty active weather on the card this week. quite quiet at the moment and mild but waiting out in the atlantic is this system, storm caroline. it has been named by the met office because it is likely to cause disruption especially across northern parts of the country as we had through thursday in particular. so this storm likely to bring gusts of wind of perhaps 80 miles an hour. botica across northern parts of scotland and even through the central belt. and likely to cause some travel disruption across many parts of the country phytophthora we're keeping a close eye on that but back to the here and now, it is quiet, most places dry, some persistent rain across the north west of scotland tonight. but a lot of cloud around and breeze and that keeps things mild and frost free. so through wednesday england and wales have another cloudy day, some brighter spells though humming through the crowd especially towards the east. the wind really strengthening across scotland and northern ireland with the arrival of some rain during the course of the day, moving south and east. so through wednesday night we start to see the wind strengthening, gales or severe gales in the irish sea and through parts of scotland, transferring south—east across the country with some spells of heavy rain. not pleasant conditions thursday morning. and then our attention turns to the strength of the wind. 80 miles an hour possible across the north and scotland combined with rain that turns to snow as the colder air piles in behind that storm system. so temperatures down on what we've seen over the past couple of days, back into mid single figures. and then storm caroline clears off eventually towards the north east leaving us with the isobars stretching right up towards the arctic. so towards the end of the week, that northerly flow of cold aircoming end of the week, that northerly flow of cold air coming in and attention turns from the strong wind to the cold conditions with wintry showers and snow likely across parts of scotland, northern ireland, north—west england, wales and the south west. sunny spells elsewhere but feeling cold. and adding on the strength of the wind feeling subzero. so from midweek on red storm caroline bringing wet and windy weather and then returned to something more wintry to end the week. tonight at six. a new front in the battle against the online grooming of children. police warn that abusers are turning to live streaming apps to manipulate children. we go undercover — posing as a teenage girl — within minutes she's targeted. he whispers: she's14 and yet someone has just asked her to take her shirt and her bra off. we have a special investigation — and look at what parents can do. also tonight. the terror threat in britain — an official report asks whether the manchester bombing could have been prevented. theresa may is facing a backlash from allies and opponents alike as she tries to rescue the brexit talks. the steelworker who's lost hundreds of thousands from his pension pot. he blames incorrect financial advice. while root is at the crease england still have a chance

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