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The Election Year . And hawaiis governor says more than 1,000 people are still potentially missing as fema is acknowledging challenges with the Relief Efforts there, well get an update from a top official and a new look at the harrowing scenes on the ground. Im kaitlan collins. This is the source. We begin with exclusive new reporting on the hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees that Rudy Giuliani is now staring down and the desperate attempts he has made to get former President Trump to cover them. With his attorney in tow, im told that Rudy Giuliani traveled to maralago in late april on a mission to make a personal appeal to trump to pay his legal bills. By going in person, giuliani and that lawyer, Robert Costello believed they could help explain face to it is if a why trump needled to assist his attorney with those ballooning legal bills. They argued that really, it was in trumps best interests to do so. But apparently, it fell on deaf ears. Trump is notoriously strict about digging into list own coffers. He did not seem very interested, im told, in covering everything that giuliani and costello wanted. One source said he verbally agreed to help but he didnt commit to any specific amount or time line. Another source tells me that trump really only agreed to pay a small fee from a data vendor that was hosting giulianis records. Im told it was about 340,000. In total, giulianis legal fees are in the sevenfigure range. His trip to maralago has not been previously reported. Were telling you about it here tonight. It does indicate the level of stress that hes been facing for months. Some in trumps circle were surprise by his unwillingness to pay giulianis bills, given he could find himself under pressure to cooperate with state and now federal prosecutors who have charged trump. Giuliani sat down voluntarily with jack smiths team this sumner two back to back sessions. Hes now a codefendant in the Election Interference Case in georgia. He is facing 13 criminal charges, like trump, and potentially serious prison time. Its not out of character for trump to not want to pay legal fees. This is something weve heard from many of his attorneys in the past, including his former attorney Michael Cohen. When i sat down with him last month. History repeats itself. One thing we know for certain is that donald does not pay legal fees. He doesnt pay fees at all. There is a pattern to what he does. He will pay a little bit. Fall behind. Pay a little more. Fall bigger behind. Im joined now by the former white House Counsel under president nixon, john dean. Good to see you again. What do you make when you hear that Rudy Giuliani is going to maralago, making this desperate plea, trying to get trump to pay for his legal fees and trump not really reciprocating on most of that. I think that trump is aware that during watergate, for example, the payment of legal fees got lawyers in a lot of trouble, as did joint defense agreements. The fact that hes not paying though is a pattern of this man as michael just said. He just doesnt like to pay his bills. He will get people to come after him to pay the fees. Michael had to go to court to get his fees paid. So theres no surprise here. And trump, i think, is willing to tough it out. He doesnt think rudy will flip. Thats a concern. The Michael Cohen effect. People have said that cohen has changed his tactics there because of a concern of it turning into a Michael Cohen situation. I doubt that rudy will. He knows the Inner Workings of the system better than most of the u. S. Attorneys from the Southern District of new york. He knows particularly the rico law. He will try to poke holes. He will think he can prevail. Certainly at the motion stage, the early stage of this proceeding, is not likely to flip. It is only if the government of georgia can overwhelm him and he realizes hes going down and maybe he can save himself some years by cracking a deal. I sat down with bill barr, trumps former Attorney General, of course, as you know, the other week. And he had this to say about what he has seen he said happened to people in trumps orbit. He leaves in his wake ruined lives like this, the people who went up to capitol hill, these individuals, many of the people who served in the government that got sucked into things. He just leaves all this carnage in his wake. Do you think he cares . No. He doesnt care. Loyalty is a oneway street for him. Do you think Rudy Giuliani winds up as more carnage here if he hasnt already in some peoples view . I think he will. I think hes in deep trouble. The governments case looks overwhelming. His federal issues have that been resolved. Trump could not pardon him in georgia, if indeed he is convicted in georgia. I dont think trump will make it back to the white house. I think people are starting to get a glimmer of what that could be and they dont want it. Maybe more republicans will do that before the primary vote. I dont know. Theyre slow learners, apparently. So i think rudy will get destroyed by this. Its sad but true. Yeah. If he is as out of money as his attorney was arguing in court today that he is, the entire reason his attorney was in court was arguing that he could not pay part of what he is being ordered to pay as part of the lawsuit. What does dough in that situation . Does he represent himself . What options does Rudy Giuliani have at that point . Well, he can get a courtappointed lawyer. Representing yourself is the worst option. Anyone who represents himself is likely to make bad decisions about that representation. I think rudy is likely to go into chapter 11, a bankruptcy of some sort. I understand his apartment is on the market. It could raise several million dollars. He probably has a lot of debt he has to handle immediately as well. So i think bankruptcy is a potential. And maybe a courtappointed attorney. That would be kind of remarkable in the worst way, as someone who was once known as managers mayor. The role that he had after 9 11 is then potentially, as you predict could happen, being represented by a courtappointed attorney and filing bankruptcy to cover his legal fees. It has a shakespearean element about it. I dont really think of shakespeare when i look at rudy and some of the news clips of him recently. It has that kind of tragic tale that is being told in front of us. So well have to watch. No one wishes him ill. Hes gotten himself where he is. What do you make of what we saw in georgia overall . The District Attorney saying she wants to have a march trial date. Shes asking for March 4th Of A Trial date. Whether or not that happens remains to be seen. Does that seem realistic given the nature of this case, how complex it is . Begin that there are 19 codefendants here . I think what will slow down the georgia case, others will file the kind of motion that mark meld owes has filed to remove it to federal court. While the State Proceedings will continue, it will bogg things down a bit. I dont really believe with my talk with lawyers who have really studied this body of law, that they will remove it to federal court. If they do, its still the same georgia prosecutors. And the calendar could be even clearer at the federal level. I dont know. It is a different jury pool. Broader, wider. That is what is likely to slow it down. So you dont think that theyre likely going to be able to get it moved from a State Proceeding as mark meadows is doing, but were told by sources that trump is also likely to do. You dont think thats likely . I dont. Its hard to envision this as official behavior of any of the people. When you read that indictment, you read what is being included. Mark meadows was not just setting up meetings. He was not arranging telephone calls. Thats done by secretaries, staffers, white house operators. He is in the thick of this. And as the indictment brings out, it is much different than his motion. So i dont think theyll prevail. And many of them dont even have federal standing to remove. Those who are the fake electors, for example. And its just limited to those who were in federal office when these events happened. Yeah. And to bring this full circle, Rudy Giuliani has said, he is going to potentially make that argument though. He obviously did not work for the federal government. Well see what the courts decide. John dean, thank you for your perspective tonight. Thank you. So as we noted, even Rudy Giulianis attorney is saying that he is essentially broke and that donald trump is not going to be helping anymore, we are told by sources. That seems in stark contrast to the millions that giuliani once made working for trump. Actually, 9. 5 million in 2017. 5 million in 2018. That was according to disclosures made during his divorce. The connection between giulianis reputation and the fate of trump are so intertwined. Everyone remembers when giuliani stood in front of the soon to be Mob On January 6th and said this. If were wrong, we will be made fools of. But if were right, a lot of them will go to jail. So lets have trial by combat. Im willing to stake my reputation. The president is willing to stake his reputation on the fact that were going to find criminality there. If youre surprised to hear about the struggles giuliani is having financially, you probably shouldnt be. Money problems make sense when you take a step back and look at how much legal trouble the new york mayor, the former mayor of new york, is facing. A 2. 7 billion Defamation Suit. Giuliani already owes 90,000 as punishment for not complying with an order to turn over records in a separate suit in which he acknowledged making false comments about Election Workers. His former assistant has tapes and texts and now the 13 criminal charges that the Fulton County District Attorney brought this week against giuliani, trump, and 17 others. It doesnt stop there. All of this is coming as giuliani is also facing disbarment proceedings, both here in new york and in washington. That means that right now he cannot make money from practicing law. Giuliani has firmly embraced his role as the face of trumps election lies. Something trump himself personally ordered. He spent months speaking at increasingly bizarre Press Conferences. Ris reputation today is not what it once it was. He stood outside the four seasons total landscaping pushing election lies like this one. After all, joe frazier is still voting here. Kind of hard since he died five years ago. But joe continues to vote. Before that happened, before we were at four seasons total landscaping in philadelphia, he was the mayor that america watched walk through The Cloud Of Dust on 9 11. Who graced the cover of Time Magazine as a, quote, tower of strength. He was once the most popular politician in the country and at the time, the leading candidate for the republican nomination. His incredible climb started with the same type of law that he is now charged under in the state of georgia. This is a man who, according to the new york time, in 1989, quote, long asersed that he invented the use of the racketeer corrupt organizations act known as rico to pursue the mafia commission. He was so associated with the law when cnn did a story in 1988, giuliani was the face of a wave of rico prosecutions. The racketeer act called rico for short. Passed by congress in 1970, prosecutors love it. The activities of organized crime, the drug dealing, extortion, labor racketeering, the murders, executions, theyve been around a long time. The government until now has been virtually ineffective in dealing with it. Its a legacy he is still clinging to even now. Im the same Rudy Giuliani going after the mafia. I havent changed one bit. Few people know exactly how much Rudy Giuliani has indeed changed more than my next guest. He has literally written the book, two of them, actually, on the former mayor. Well see what he thinks happened to Rudy Giuliani right after this. Limited time flavor. New crispy dragon shrimp. One of seven endless choices for just 20. Right now, only at red lobstere. Welcome to fun dining. We never just see the numbers. We see the people. Marcus detroit, its just changed so much. You can e what it once was. And then, i think about what ican be. 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The poll said he was more popular than the pope at one point. And he opened up a consulting coil, giuliani parters in, that made 100 million in five years. He became stratospherally healthy. He bought six houses, 11 country club memberships. 11 . 11. His exwife spoke to me at length for my book. There was a quote in the book which was kind of amusing and harrowing. We were spending 250,000 a month on sheer fun. I mean, he was living a very, very lavish lifestyle. Spent it recklessly. Destroyed judith giuliani. Gave a lot away. And now the legal bills, hes just drowning in legal bills. The fact that donald trump wont bail him out is just absolutely tragic. 340,000. Were told he has seven figures in legal fees hes facing. Yeah. Hes being sued for defamation, right . Hes under criminal, under indictment. A criminal investigation in d. C. There are civil suits against him. The Election Worker in atlanta is suing him. Hes representing himself in some cases. Hes burning through his money. Youve covered him their years. Does this surprise you . Nothing surprises me when it comes to Rudy Giuliani. I mean, the reason ive been covering him for 30 years is that hes such a complex over the top, larger than life figure. He is an opera fan. Hes kind of a, life is an opera. You know, almost heescapes deat on 9 11. He busted the mob. Ran for president. Had this extraordinary flameout in 2008. He goes to ukraine. Leads to one president ial impeachment. A second impeachment. There is no story like Rudy Giuliani. His is one of, i guess, the most extraordinary political rise and fall stories of our time. So what happened to him . That is the question for people who saw him at the white house, when he was having the Press Conference where his hair dye is running down his face. What happened to Rudy Giuliani . I think in a word, it was desperation. I think that his rise to power was so extraordinary. A hero prosecutor, a hero mayor, a president ial candidate leading in the polls for a full year in 2008 in the republican primary. He lasted just eight weeks in the republican primary. Drops out in total humiliation with only one delegate, and falls from grace. He loses his 9 11 halo and suddenly, hes out in the wilderness. Who come to his rescue but donald trump . And you know, he literally houses him in maralago soon after the election. Deappreciation he was drinking, giuliani had hit rock bottom. It was donald trump who was his ticket back to power. In 2016, it was donald trump who needed Rudy Giuliani when he was running for president in 2016, trump didnt have any political friends. He needed giuliani. And giuliani needed trump. No one was calling giuliani for his endorsement except for trump. Do you think thats why giuliani was so willing to do what trump, i mean, he went to ukraine and looked into all that. Trump was telling people in ukraine, ukraine officials, talk to Rudy Giuliani. Like he worked at the justice department. Trump put him in charge of that you aring all his election lies. Rudy did all that and some. After all of trumps election lawyers, campaign lawyers, the United States Attorney General had told trump that he had lost the election. There was only one man telling him he had won and that was Rudy Giuliani. And of course, predictably, he put giuliani in charge of the election situation when trying to turn around the race. I mean, giuliani was there with trump when they turned off the lights at the white house. The last man standing, telling him he had still won. The fact that trump was not paying his legal bills. Its remarkable. Its remarkable. Its not really surprising. That is trumps m. O. Michael cohen, they say this is what he does. What about the fact that giuliani is now facing hes not just over his head in legal fees. He is facing criminal charges in georgia for the same law he used to use to go after members of organized crime. Right. The irony is extraordinary. Rico is not just a legal statute. Rico is part of his personality. Part of his story. Giuliani tells the story over and over how back then, when he was still number three in the justice department, he was overhearing the television with joe, the mafia don, who had explicably written an autobiography. Talked about the commission, like the Godfather Scene where all the mobsters sat around and kind of made their big decisions. And according to giuliani, he had this lightbulb moment. Hes like, i can use rico and charge them all at once and thats what he did and he was successful. It made him world famous and an american hero. For the atlanta grand jury now to indict him on rico charges, it is like stabbing a knife to the heart of the giuliani story. He must be devastated by it. Andrew kirtzman, your book, you have enough material for more books, i would say. The rise and fall of americas mayor, Rudy Giuliani. Thank you. If you want to know more about the giuliani story, there is so much there. Saturday night, 8 00. In the cnn original series, what happened to americas mayor, asked how the man considered a hero in the aftermath of 9 11 helped in the trump conspiracy. And a date for donald trump. How his Court Calendar is lining up with the political one and the complications there. Also, new reporting on trumps current thinking about whether or not hell show up for that first debate one week from tonight. Ahhhh. With flonase, allergies dont hahave to be scary. Spray flonase sensimimist daily for nondrowsy, long lasting relieff in a scentfree, gentle mist. psst psst flonase. All good. Our ears connect us to the moments that matter. Give them the nutrients they need with lipo. 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After trump faces a civil trial here in october, he could stand trial in jack smiths Election Conspiracy case and the Defamation Suit all in the midst of the iowa caucuses. Fani williss case could start one day before super tuesday if it goes as she is asking. Thats when voters in more than a dozen states will go to the polls. Georgia voters eight days later will be casting their primary votes and this doesnt factor in the classified documents case and when that could happen. Trump and his 18 codefendants in georgia have nine more days to voluntarily surrender, which we are told will happen at the Fulton County jail in atlanta. So far, we are told, that no one has turned themselves in. Instead, trumps attorneys are in talks about the details of what that surrender will look like and when it could happen. To discuss more with two political consultants. I may not, we have all the legal questions for this but also there is the political aspect. We are now in an Election Year. There is new polling out that says hes still enjoying strong support from republicans. No surprise there. More of them want him to run than they did even in april. When it come to the general, 74 of republicans say they would support trump in November 2024 but only 53 of americans say they definitely would not back him. Do republicans see that . Are they looking at these numbers . Republicans are looking at joe biden and going, there is no way america will vote for that guy. We can put up trump and hes a fighter and hell win. Thats why a lot of these attempted electability arguments that youve seen ron desantis saying, im a winner. Im the one who knows how to win. The unspoken contrast being donald trump doesnt know how to win. Republican voters dont really buy that. That doesnt mean that hes guaranteed to be the nominee and it certainly doesnt mean if he is the nominee, he would be the next president , Asle Republicans really think. I do think in the general election, a lot of poll show it not too far apart between trump and biden in a rematch. They do not think that some independents think he is. There are number to back that up. The new Quinnipiac Poll shows the hypothetical race between trump and biden is a virtual tie. What does the white house say when they see those numbers . Especially when they see the indictments . I think they probably, the sound you hear is them banging their heads against the wall. The economic numbers are starting to look a lot better. Youre a year out from the ira being passed. The it is going really well. And theyre getting zero attention because the main candidate is getting indicted and folks seem to like it. This is nuts. By the way, the people in the Republican Party who apparently like all this stuff, they wouldnt hire someone who had 91 Felony Charges against him. They wouldnt give that person a job interview. Yet theyre willing to put someone like that in the white house. Its bizarre. It is also completely sucking up all the oxygen on the campaign trail. Maybe every last bit of it. Ron desantis was in iowa where hes been stationed the last couple weeks. He said the Republican Party needs to move on. If we are fighting about what happened in 2020 or january 6th, 2021. If that is what the election ends up about, joe biden will be hanging out if his basement in delaware again. Not a care in the world. And republicans are going to lose. Trump is holding a News Conference on monday to finally prove his fraud claims. This isnt going away. Its still something trump is making an unavoidable topic. And that calendar shows not only is it not going away. This will be dominating the headlines in the heat of republican primary season. And im skeptical that it makes republicans more likely to vote for him but it certainly solidifies those around him. It makes them feel like they need the take defensive action. Stand by their guy and keep supporting him. As a way to stick it to the other side. It will make it very hard for the other contenders who the polls show republicans really like. Ron desantis. They like tim scott. All these folks. Theyre just not picking them in the primary. Brian kemp, the republican governor of georgia. Marjorie taylor green was asked about this. She was asked about that and whether or not because of that, where she was unhappy for brian kemp saying that, if she would challenge him if he ran for senate. Thats not the point. Hadder quote but she said i havent made up my mind whether i will do that or not. I have a lot to think about. Will i be part of President Trumps cabinet if he wins . Is it possible that ill be vp . First of all, who is Marjorie Taylor green . Who are you talking about . Shes never passed a bill. Shes never chaired a committee. Shes never done literally anything at all except to be an obnoxious controversialist. She might be the new vp. In this upside down bizarre world. 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President biden announcing that he and the first lady will visit maui on monday after republicans including former President Trump criticized his response to the tragedy so far. He has also declared an Emergency Declaration and he has spoken to multiple officials. On monday the bidens will be able to see firsthand the devastation from the Deadly Wildfires that have claimed at least 110 lives, according to the latest counts. Officials are warning that number will rise as Search And Rescue teams are continuing to comb through the aftermath. Thats wreckage that the hawaiian governor described to me as reminiscent of 9 11. It is that difficult to be going through this. Not only finding people but also identifying those they do find. So far about a third of the burn area has been searched as this painstaking process of identifying victims continues. Officials have had to ask relatives to provide dna samples. Joining me, the director of Public Affair for the Hawaiian Department of defense. Thank you for coming back on. Can you describe, we spoke the other day. What is the Search Operation like on the ground right now . The Search Efforts have increased multiple time over. It went from 20 search canines to 40, coming from 15 different states. That shows you the aloha and the effort that our nation is taking in getting maui what they need. You said onethird of the area is searched. The death toll will go up. More bodies will be found and well start to get closure to those who need it and identify who is missing. There are centers with Civilian Lists and dan being collected to help make the match and help people find those who are still missing. The last time you and i talked, you estimated about 1,000 people were missing. Where does that number stand tonight . That hasnt changed. Theyre still estimating many, many people to be found. With the teams increasing, both with the National Guard and fema and first responders, firefighters are now able to leave the fires. There are still fires burning in hot spots. Now they can assist the others in the area affected. Thats great. And with that effort, theyll start going into buildings. The numbers will go up a lot. I was able the talk to a Search And Rescue team member from the hawaii National Guard. He let me know the first thing they do, they walk through the area. The first thing they do is they listen for anybody who might be making a noise. Thats heartwrenching. On that team is searchers, and fatality Search And Rescue personnel. When they do find a body, you know, with compassion and care and time, they take that body and get it back to where it can be identified. It is taking a long time for the search to discover and recover the remains. We ask for patience during this time. You mentioned when the search team goes in, they listen for sounds. Are they hearing anything . No. Sadly, theyre not. Thats part of the process. The steps that they take. Theres hope but thats one of the steps they do. Then they go back with a finetooth comb and go over the area multiple times. Its sad but theyre Getting Better at their job. The motivation is the families. And this is a communitybased organization. These are guardsmen who are from the area. This is their community. Theyre used to cleaning up debris. Maybe protecting people from going down certain roads because of lava or floods. This is brand new. This is not what their normal jobs are. What other experts have been brought in . The governor last night was comparing this to the aftermath of a war zone. He said it looked like ground zero after 9 11. Different situations. He was saying that is the kind of expertise theyre needing people to come in and help identify people. Yeah. Theyre bringing in complete teams. Fema, its over 400 personnel on the ground assisting. Not just the people of maui but assisting in the process of identifying, bringing in experts from Around The World to the Little Island of maui. And with their expertise, it is actually helping the process. On top of that, you have grief counsellors, chaplains, you have community outreach. You still have people who may be on the mainland, Around The World, or somewhere other than maui. And theyre the ones missing people. And it is really hard to connect to those personnel to the ones on maui. It is not just maui people missing maui people. There might be International People missing. Family, friends. And theyre finding challenges as well. So it is a very wellrounded situation. Were trying to help maui get a handle on that. Jeff hickman, were Thinking Of You and everyone youre working with and all the search teams. Thank you for joining us tonight. Mahalo. Well continue to monitor updates there. Also back here, three branches of the military do not have confirmed leadership tonight because a republican senator Tommy Tubervilles hold on military promotions. The chairman. Armed Services Committee will join me next. 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It leaves night very precarious position. We have key leaders that are not in place. And very sensitive areas. I just returned from germany. There we have coordinating all of our activities for ukraine. And the nominee for Deputy Commander of that organization is not in place. And the commander cant assume all the responsibilities. An incredible job. We have the commander of our pacific fleet. We have the marine Corps Commander of japan. This is also an effect that sort of cascades downward. It sends signals to very promising young officers, colonels, lieutenant colonels, that theyre just political pawns and it is very, very destructive. And it is also very destructive and disruptive for the families. You said earlier this week that Republican Leadership, because of the effects you just talked about, Military Readiness but also on the families, that Republican Leadership neeps to tell tuberville in public what theyre saying in private. What are they saying in private . I think in private they recognize the detriment and the need to move quickly. But that is all very nice. They have to come out very publicly on the floor and say, this is an issue about the readiness of the United States and the professionalism of our military forces, and we have to move and confirm these offices. Otherwise it is worse and worse and worse for them and their family. The family issue cannot be ignored. Weve spoken with several of those families. It affects whether or not they can move, whether or not military spouses can start new jobs, getting their kids in schools that the senate is on a fiveweek recess. Senator schumer does set the schedule and technically, some of these nominations could move individually. And i understand what tuberville is doing is unprecedented. Usually theyre all done together. Couldnt democrats force a vote on some of these stalled nominees alone . Well, if we had to vote on all these nominees, weve asked them, they estimated it would take about 30 days if we were working seven days a week and 24 hours a day to get these nominations through. That means we cant do the supplemental appropriations for ukraine which is critical to the success of the ukrainians, and for our and natos success. We couldnt talk about the day of continuing resolution to keep it open. If we pick and choose one or two, what about the rest of those men and women . Theyll be left behind. One of the thing about being in the military is you dont leave people behind. We have to get this done. Unless there is an objection based on facts to a nominee, these nominees will move forward. And thats what we have to do. And it is the republicans who will have to stand up on the floor of the senate and say, this is wrong. We must go ahead and confirm these officers so their own satisfaction, their own reward for service, and for the safety of the nation. What happens if they dont . Well, i think theyre shirking their responsibility, frankly. We have been on the floor constantly asking to pursue these nominations. To talk about these nominations. You get some indications, i think senator mcconnell says initially that oh, he doesnt support this. But thats a lot different than going in and saying, were going to get this done. I think if they did that, that would send a signal that there are other ways to protest his objections for d. O. D. Policy and theyre more appropriate than this. This is seriously harming our national security. We have to stand together both as republicans and democrats. More importantly, as americans who value and respect the service of our men and women in uniform. The irony is some of these people would be the first in line with their American Flag pins on saying how much they port and enjoy the military. Now its time to stand up and support the military. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you very much. 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