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Decorated female gymnast in history. She has added a chance to add to that record breaking a hall in the olive hall of round shout out to the u. S. Mens, Night Finishing on the podium for the First Time Since 2014, almost a decade ago. Its nagging the bronze behind japan and china. Things are shaping up nicely for team usa ahead of next years Summer Olympics in paris. Of course, hopefully, they will figure out that bedbugs problem. But dont worry, we wont get him to it right now, especially if you are watching this in bed tonight. As the this is Cnn Primetime with abby phillip starts right now. Its apparently the unforgivable sin in todays politics. Working with the other side of the aisle. So unforgivable, in fact, that it may earn you the political death penalty. And as republicans begin the autopsy on what happened to Kevin Mccarthy, they are now doctoring some of the results. Good evening. I am abby phillip. And tonight, the fallout intensifies after the historic ouster of Kevin Mccarthy as house speaker. There is a race underway to replace him. But even more intense is the blame game. Some republicans are pointing the finger at matt gaetz. Others point to mccarthy and the deal that he himself cut to neuter his own power back in january. But increasingly, we are hearing more of this. That democrats are the ones to blame for not saving mccarthy. The Republican Congressional Committee said democrats on the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus have the spine of a boiled noodle of spaghetti. Mccarthy himself echoed that. I think today was a political decision by the democrats. I think the things they have done in the past her to the institution. You cant do the job if eight people, 96 of your entire conference, but eight people can partner with the other side. How do you govern . It is a really good question. But it is one that i think Kevin Mccarthy should have been asking himself back in january. Because it was mccarthy himself who agreed to those hardline or demands by republicans to get the speakership in the 50th round, i should add. It is also on that he thinks democrats should be the one to throw him a lifeline when He Greenlight The Biden and peach meant inquiry. He gave the January 6th Footage to tucker carlson. And, when just days ago, he blamed democrats for the almost shut down. Did democrats try to do everything they can not to let it pass . The democrats were the one who voted for a larger number than republicans to keep the continuing ways aleutian alive. Did you watch the floor yesterday . Yes. 50 republicans voted against it. As Margaret Brennan said, a quick fact check, it was republicans who, even prior to that vote that weekend, failed to pass their own bills to fund the government. But if you look at the recent history of republican speakers, the cause of death becomes a little clearer. Mccarthy, ousted. Paul ryan, quit in disgust over his right flank. John boehner, pushed out by the freedom caucus. Dennis haster hastert spent time in prison after admitting to sexual abuse rebellion. So, perhaps the issue is not actually democrats, but the insatiable thirst for rebellion within the republican conference. And joining me now is congressman ted lieu of california, chair of that congressman ted lieu, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank, you abby. Im honored to be on the show. Now, Speaker Mccarthy and his allies have been saying that democrats share blame for his downfall. What is your reaction to that . Let me first say, i have known Kevin Mccarthy a long time, ever since we both served in the california state legislature. He was the son of a firefighter. And he rose to occupy the highest legislative office in the land. I wish him well. Now, the notion that somehow democrats were going to bail out the republicans in this civil war makes no sense. If you remember, in january, we voted 15 rounded every democrat voted for Hakeem Jeffries, because we believe Hakeem Jeffries should be speaker and would be a better speaker. And our actions were consistent with having Hakeem Jeffries be speaker. Former Speaker Pelosi and leader hoyer were both kicked out of their capital offices, these highways that they have. It is a privilege that was given and reportedly taken away by Speaker Mccarthy. What do you make of that move . So, House Republicans seem concerned with office space. Democrats want to pass laws to help american families. And thats what we did when we were in control last term. We pass the Inflation Reduction Act to cap insulin at 35 per month, and to lower the cost of other prescription drugs. And that is what the American People expect. A functioning government. We are also learning tonight that former republican congresswoman liz cheney actually reach out to your colleague, congressman dan goldman, ahead of the motion to vacate vote, to basically stress the danger that mccarthy poses to democracy because of his response to january 6th. Sources tell cnn that goldman then share this to the rest of the House Democratic caucus. What exactly did she say . And what was the reaction in the room to that advice from liz cheney . I am not aware of what liz cheney said, because i was not a witness to that conversation. But i want to explain what is happening right now. There is a civil war in the House Republican caucus between those who are extreme and those who are very extreme. There are very few moderates left in the caucus, but enough that could abandon this mcgraw maga willing to govern, we just need a partner who is willing to govern. I have to ask you, though. If the tables were turned in this scenario i think this is what republicans are raising. Lets hypothetically suppose that a democratic speaker found themselves basically on the verge of losing their job because of a tiny minority within the Democratic Party who teamed up with republicans to oust them. Does that scenario, becoming more possible, concern you . I think you cant look at the situation without looking at who the speaker actually was. Speaker mccarthy made a deal, and then broke it a few weeks later. And this was not any deal. This was a deal with the president of the United States that was literally signed into law. And he reneged on it. And he brings our country to the brink of default. And then he brings our country again to the brink of a government shutdown. If it was a different speaker whose word could be trusted, i think you might have had a different result. Speaking of the possibility of a different speaker, there is now an open race for that job, in the republican conference. And you famously clashed with one of the people who is up for, jim jordan. What do you see when you imagine a world in which jim jordan is the speaker . Is he someone you think you could work with . Democrats, including me i am ready to work with any republican speaker, as long as they dont break their word, and that they want to help the American People. We stand ready and willing to govern. We just need maga extremists to not control the place. Because we have had that for this entire year. And it has been total chaos. We need people to abandon this extreme maga wing of the Republican Party and work with democrats on a bipartisan basis. Do you think that you can work with jim jordan specifically . Yes. I can work with any speaker, provided they tell the truth and want to work on a bipartisan path forward. All right. Im fine with working with pretty much any member. All right. Congressman ted lieu, thank you for joining us. Thank you. Lets continue this conversation with cnn anchor and host of cnns whos talking to Chris Wallace. Chris wallace is here. So, chris, republicans are now blaming democrats for the fact that mccarthy no longer has a job. Do you think that they share some blame here . The democrats . No. Its not their job to save the republican speaker. Can you emad gym if nancy pelosi was in trouble back when she was speaker and they were counting on republicans to bail her out . Yeah, not in 1 million years. Yeah, theres plenty of legitimate bad blood between republicans and democrats. Remember, it was Kevin Mccarthy who, right after january 6th, said that donald trump was responsible for what had happened on that terrible day. And then a couple of weeks later he was down in maralago, kissing the former president s ring. So, there was not a lot of love lost between the democrats and Kevin Mccarthy. And not to say that they were going to oust him. But they certainly were not going to save him. Yeah. I think a republican leader who authorized helping a democratic leader in that same position probably would have lost their jobs as a result of doing that. But now that we dont know, really, who is going to come next after mccarthy, do you think that there is any world in which democrats might come to regret not trying to come to encourage mccarthy to make a deal with him in order to save his speakership . He could not have. Because, had he made a deal with the democrats in other words, had he said, i will give you these concessions, and we are going to try to rule as a bipartisan unity coalition, it might have worked for a little time, but it would have so cratered his base inside the gop conference that he would not have had eight republicans calling for his ouster. It would have been dozens calling for his ouster. So, at that point, when there was you know, there was more than the delta between the majority and the number of republicans who wanted him out, there was just no way he was going to save his speakership. Yeah, i think you are right about that. So, now we have two candidates who have officially announced they are running for speaker. One of them is House Majority leader Steve Scalise. The other is congressman jim jordan, who, heads up, some of these hunter biden probes. Hes known as a flame thrower in the house. Kevin hern, so hes a congressman, is keeping his options open. We are do you think that this lands . Who do you think has the momentum at their backs at this point . I think first of all, it is going to be really hard to get to 218. Because i would think, between Steve Scalise, and jordan, they are really going to slip the conference. Remember, they are, what . Just a couple of more four or five votes beyond that . So, if you get a sizable number for both of them, no one is going to be anywhere near. And that, of course, is one of the reasons mccarthy was elected back last january in the first place. Because he was the only one out there that could get 218 votes. And this one of them gives way, i think its going to be a long, difficult process. And we may look at last january, when they were 15 rounds and say, that was easy. That was a tea party compared to what they were going to face this time around. On a logical basis, you would say Steve Scalise is the next in line. He is the majority leader. He has a lot of support within the conference. One of the problems, i think, that he faces, is real questions about his health. Yeah. Because of the fact he survived that shooting back in 2017. Now he is fighting multiple myeloma. That would be one of the questions. Does he have the vigor to run the house and also to go off and raise a lot of money for 2024 . Its a very important question, and one that i know is being asked over and over on capitol hill as well as this process goes through. But you are absolutely right. Everybody needs to hold on. Because this could take some time, even if it just gets started next week. But chris, stand by. If become speaker, why usag ukraine could be in serious jeopardy. Plus, see what happened when chris confronts all over stone about his interviews with Vladimir Putin. And the war of words getting fiery, as the new York Attorney general fires back at donald trump during a fraud trial. Donald trump you would about ukraine . Are you willing to move forward the first speaker . I am against that. What i understand is, at some point, we are going to have to deal with this Appropriation Process in the right way. We are going to have to do that in the way we can . 2 41 days. The most pressing issue on americans mind is that they are with a jim jordan making clear that he is not in favor of new aid for ukraine. And that casts a dark cloud over the fate of ukraine as the funds quickly dry up. So, the question now is, will this all play into Vladimir Putins hands. Well, Chris Wallace is back with me now. So, chris, u. S. Aid now, i think, more so than at any point since this war has begun, seems to now really be on the line. And it certainly seems to hinge, in part, on who takes over in as who for the trajectory of this war Going Forward . It could not be more serious. There is a few billion dollars in the pipeline still that, the pentagon has from prior procreations. So, ukraine is not out of money in terms of u. S. Military aid yet. But one of the Top White House officials the other day said it could be a few more weeks, it could be a few more months. Clearly, by the end of the year, which is not far from now, if there is not a new injection of funds by congress, ukraine is going to lose its support not, obviously, from europe, but from the u. S. And that would very much jeopardize the situation. What is most distressing about all this, abby, is the fact that Vladimir Putin and its been clear from people inside the kremlin has been counting on the idea that he can outlast the west, in particular that he can outlast the United States, that we will tire of supporting the war in ukraine, that there will be divisions in this country and that, therefore, he will be able to eventually win the long war because of the fact that the west, its support for ukraine, it will flag. Along those lines, on whos talking this past week, i talked to oliver stone, the famous film director, who, a couple of years ago did a series of interviews with Vladimir Putin that were criticized for being soft, even fawning. Lets look at that exchange. I think its fair to say that you are most controversial these days for a series of interviews that you did with Vladimir Putin over a couple of years in the mid 2010s, in which you have been criticized for being too friendly, and even fawning. Why didnt you challenge putin more in those interviews . I am sorry, chris, that is absolute baloney. Constantly pushing him in this interview. But when he makes a contingent, the challenge it . Sometimes you have to play the game of getting an interview. You understand . I understand. When you get to sit down with a dictator, why would you want to tiptoe around the fact that he has been accused of killing his political opponents . Accuse. Ive never seen hard evidence of that. Are you really sitting here, oliver, saying that you think putin has been unjustly accused of attacking or killing his political opponents . Im saying again, im asking you, what is the motive to do this, because because he is a dictator, and he doesnt like people who thats a little simplistic. You said this summer, putin this is your quote is not the monster he has been portrayed by american propaganda. Really . You are going about this all wrong. You are not even giving the guy a break. You are not giving a break. Talking about putin. You are blaming him for all, over the question i would ask you is, why are you giving im trying to see it from both sides. Why are you siding with Vladimir Putin . Im not siding with anybody. And thats, really, exactly the point, abby, just as you saw oliver stone there, who is talking about, lets give Vladimir Putin a break. I dont know that anybody in the congress is going to go that far. But with all of the competing interests, like, as jim jordan said, like immigration, like crime, various issues in this country, there certainly is, particularly among House Republicans, not senate republicans, diminishing support for continuing to finance the war in ukraine. Yeah, look. First of all, that interview is really eyeopening. Its kind of shocking to hear how he talks about this. But, to your point, support, or lack of support for putin, has become tied to partisanship, which is a new phenomenon in this country. And i think that is what is playing out on capitol hill. Chris wallace, thank you, as always, for being with. Us thank, you abby, for being here. And you can catch a Chris Wallaces show on max. Up next, despite being under alimited gag order, donald trump continues to attack officials in his fraud trial. And tonight, theyre fighting back. Did he just admit to Business Fraud . We will play the clip for you. From chrome to duckduckgo. 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This is nothing more than a political stunt, the fundraising stunt. Mr. Trumps comments were offensive. They were baseless. And you get sued by a political animal. There were comments that, unfortunately, fomented violence. Comments that i would describe as race baiting. Now, despite that one gag order that has already been issued, it does not look like trump is actually going to stop lashing out at anyone any time soon. So, what does this all mean for his trial that is ongoing . I want to bring in Tim A Dial On Goggle williams temidayo agangawilliams Laetitia James Letitia James hes called it, basically, racist. Going to keep try to legitimize delegitimized the proceedings. Hes going to try to pushing and pushing and pushing, knowing that the judge really does not want to try to impose the judgment that and he will keep pushing until the moment that judge does and even then he wont stop. And james, she has obviously really put trump in her sights, and trump has accused her of doing it for political reasons. With that was a pretty strong statement that she decided to make. She did not decide to say anything at all. What do you make of the decision to do that . President , trump he commands a lot of attention. And i think Attorney General james is clearly concerned what is happening outside the courtroom and that is where the former president really has control, frankly, because he often sets the tone. I think she has made the estimation that it is important for her, and her offices efforts, that she is challenging his attacks on the legitimacy of her investigation, of the justice system, as is put forward in her justice case. I dont want to weigh in on whether it is good or bad but what about you, david aaron . Did she just give trump what he wants, which is, a reaction . In a sense, engaging with him publicly outside the courtroom door, rather than inside, you are on his turf in a way. But she is also showing that she is tough as well. And that she can give back in an appropriate way. I dont think she said anything that was inappropriate for someone in her position, for a public servant. You can see how it could may reach some response. I think she was well within the bounds. I want to play a little bit more of what trump said today. This was a bit of an eyebrow raising comment. Take a listen. My financial documents are valued less much less than my actual value. The financial documents that i gave to the bank or much less than my actual net worth. So, therefore, i gave them to the bank. If they because i gave them lower numbers. Im probably one of the only people ever to i did not even need the loan. Because you see the kind of cash i have. I didnt even need the loan. Honestly, im watching his lawyers faces behind their, just like, okay. So, what did he just admit to . Its hard to follow. And its hard to know what he admitted to. I think what we saw there was the results of a lot of pressure. Pressure that is starting to get to him. Pressure affecting his livelihood, his freedom, his family. Because that did not make a whole lot of sense. Is it the exoneration he thinks it is . I think it is clearly not. He is admitting to put putting forward false financial statements. Somehow, here, i think it would hurt him in a financial sense. I think what is really important here is the Investigation Gathering Process for all these investigations is not over. And by that i mean, when you are the target, the defendant in a case and, you are making public statements, those can and will be used against you. So, for example, when the former president comes out and says talks about his cases. Those prosecutors are looking at each word he is saying. Thats important in a civil case here. Because money is on the line. But to the extent the former president does this as a criminal cases, those prosecutors, i guarantee you, will use those words against him. I think the reason why he has been a bit more careful in these criminal cases, and speaking about the subjects there. But i think he is really going to dangerous territory here. Because each word, each slip of a tongue, that could be a confession in a way. And thats going to end up back in court. What you are saying just makes me wonder. This is about financial penalties at the end of the day, here, this trial, right . Is he sort of betting that the judge is not going to penalize him, because he is a former president . He can say whatever he wants . And it will look like retribution if he attacks him too much and the judge penalizes him at the end of the day because of that . I think he does seem to be trying to push the judge into reacting. And maybe it is because he thinks the judge wont, or maybe he thinks it is because the judge finally does, he has a better argument on appeal. Hes been treated better on appeal. Yeah, thats a good point. There are appeals and all of too this. David aaron, and temidayo, i thank you very. Much up next, a wild attack on an uber driver. See what happens as it feels a conversation about crime in america. Plus, new tonight, cnn is learning that the president s Dog Commander has been involved in more biting incidents than had been previously reported. A disturbing attack on an uber driver and an arrest tonight in that case, only intensifying this conversation about crime in america. Take a look at this video. It shows a biker in philly climbing off of his bike and then smashing into the Back Windshield of a womans core. She exits the car, and prompt him that prompted him to pull a gun on her. All of this happened while her children were in the backseat. Nikki bullock told cnn Affiliate Kyw im just grateful my kids are okay. There is not a scratch on them. Here with me now, sullivan jones, radio host and author of ten lives, ten demands, life and death stories and a black activists blueprint for racial justice. Also, charlie dent, a former congressman from pennsylvania. Solomon, the story come on a for two reasons. Number one, this woman seemingly random violent crime, a gun, a pointed directly at her face. When we people like that who are often the victims. What is going on here . I think that peoples behavior has changed. I think that, when the pandemic hit, some of the social niceties kind of disappeared. We have always had problems with motorbikes and atvs and that sort of thing in the city. But its a minor nuisance. This kind of behavior is different. You have not seen people jumping on peoples cars, kicking out windshields, putting guns in their faces. I think there is just a difference in what people believe they can get away with. And they do it because they can. And in this case, thankfully, this guy was cocked. But i just think its a difference in peoples mindset. Yeah, charlie . I have two kids in philadelphia. Just move to washington. Nonetheless, weve seen this firsthand. My son, i saw his wheels stolen off his car several months ago. My daughter got assaulted downtown just walking from the hospital after to her apartment. My niece has lives in a neighborhood that has carjackings going on we saw this horrific incident on television. But i think, part of it, as solomon said, i think its the pandemic. But i think, also, in philadelphia, to many of the local officials do not support local Law Enforcement, starting with the District Attorney. And i think that is not a small part of this problem. We see other random acts. You mentioned four wheelers. People drive around these four wheelers in the Central Business district making a racket. And i asked to Police Officers, why dont you enforce . They say, they are not permitted to enforce. I think thats a little off. Imagine a highspeed chase with an atv, a motorbike, et cetera. But if you look at what happened in philly, two weeks ago, the kind of almost flash mob style looting, robberies that are happening, this city is, like a lot of cities, struggling to deal with this. A lot of it is perpetrated by teens, young people who are engaging in, in some cases, extremely Violent Crimes that might seem like property crimes on their surface, but that can lead to serious injury or death. Sure. I think one of the things that happened with that particular instance is that you had a Police Officer who killed somebody in his car, who was sitting in his car with a knife, who could not speak english. His windows are rolled up, his doors are locked. The Police Officer shot him six times through the car window, lied about it. And then a judge dropped all the charges. So, that started that whole incident. Although, i would say the police did say they dont think the robberies were related. I dont think they were either. But thats what started there was a protest. Thats what happened with a lot of the gatherings, whether its the atvs, the motorbikes, the looting, et cetera. A lot of that stuff is arranged on social media. And so he had someone on social media who they arrested because this person live streamed the whole thing. But what i found ironic was that the Police Officer who actually murdered to somebody, they dropped all the charges. With this person who livestreamed this looting, they threw the book at her. And so i think there is a sense of injustice with people. But i also think there are some opportunists that take advantage of that anger in those situations. Just a couple days ago, charlie, congressman Henry Cuellar was a victim of an armed carjacking in washington d. C. Hes not even the first enrique standup, a congressman, was and a congressman was nearly assaulted in an elevator by an armed man with a knife. All this to say, something is happening in the country. And i want to put to the side for a second the debate over the numbers. But something is happening where people are experiencing crime, and it has become so politicized in washington. It almost seems like nobody is talking about we will solutions here. Yeah. But the consequences to all this i mean, you go up to the stores and philadelphia. To go buy toothpaste, they have to unlock the case to give you toothpaste. The stores are closing. The wawa, Popular Stores are closing. But when you listen to republicans, they say, its all about supporting Law Enforcement. But supporting Law Enforcement has nothing to do with whether people are stealing toothpaste for cvs. I have felt like, for sometime, Law Enforcement does not feel like im not saying thats the case with every local official in philadelphia. But its too many. And starting with the District Attorney, they and you could talk to the people who worked in that District Attorneys Office about what a shambles it is. And at some point, the District Attorney needs to lead and provide justice and help Crime Victims and their families. There is a lot of these Crime Victims, of course, that are just ordinary people trying to go about their lives. It is really horrendous what is happening. Any truth to this idea that there is obviously a concern, right, about criminal justice. And making sure that people are not unduly punished disproportionate to the crime that they committed. But is there any truth to the idea that there might need to be more enforcement of even small seemingly petty crimes in this kind of environment . I think part of what is happening in philadelphia is that you have a drug problem that is out of control. You have people who are in an area called kensington that is like this open Air Drug Market that you have never seen before in your life, who are going around the city and doing all kinds of things to support their drug habits. You cannot blame Larry Krasner for that. Hes not putting a needle in their arm. Hes not there veins. Hes not causing. That they are doing that. I think part of what needs to happen is we need to stop trying to blame one person, and we need to really attack the problems that are leading some of this crime that is happening in philadelphia, and beyond. I feel that people feel there is an injustice. People feel there is one set of laws for ones out of people, and some set of laws for. Others and when people feel that way, they will not obey the law, because they dont think that it is just. I think you have to address that first rather than trying to say it is all on one person, when it is not. Its all on one person. Thats what yall are saying. Yellow saying its larry largely responsible for the failure to enforce a lot of Violent Crimes are properly prosecuted. I could draw another guy who committed a crime who killed somebody and hes out on the streets. This is very common, unfortunately, in philadelphia today. Abraham, who was a District Attorney other District Attorneys who took their role seriously as Law Enforcement officers and prosecuting violent, serious crime. Force you have to arrest the person before you can prosecute them. So, when we have the low clearance rates we have in philadelphia, you can prosecute somebody that has not been arrested. And what you find is that when people are poor, when people are of color, the crimes are not solved, because nobody is arrested. And so you cant prosecute when you dont arrest. I dont know if it makes me crazy. But i wonder if there is a solution here in which you both get criminals off the streets and you also treat People Fairly in the system. You can do both things at the same time. It just that the conversation never seems to get there. You just showed that video. When that crime occurred, that terrible person jumped on the car, and smashed the windshield. That is right by city hall. That is right in the Central Business district. I have seen videos of people driving, doing donuts right in that area, even around police cars. I cannot understand what is happening. Maybe it is pandemic related. But this lawlessness that i have seen not just in philly, ive been to San Francisco it is horrible what we are witnessing. About solutions. I think there is a couple, right . So, city council is looking at drones, and using drones in order to, first, spot crime, and then prevented. And then you had the police department, really talking about foreskin focusing on social media, where a lot of the stuff starts so they can stop yeah, so much performative criminal behavior, if you can call it that, happening. Right now. Solomon, and charlie, thank you both very much. We are learning tonight now that bidens twoyearold German Shepherd Dog Commander has apparently been biting a lot more people at the white house than we previously knew. So, what is going on here . We have a professional dog trainer, matt vsnare beisner coming up next involving the covid vaccine. So, it appears that commander has been added again and again. Cnn has learned that the president and first ladys twoyearold German Shepherd has been involved in more biting incidents than we previously knew. The secret has acknowledged just 11 bites. But according to sources, the real number is higher, and it includes white house workers and Executive Residence staff. One required hospitalization. With me now is matt beisner, a certified professional dog dog trainer. Matt, 11 biting incidents alone, for most dogs is, i think, a real problem. If that number is higher, what would you do in a situation like this . What should the bidens do . First, i want to thank you for having me on, and i want to extend my empathy and compassion for the president and dr. Biden and staff and the dog in the people in that environment. Because this is obviously not an easy experience for anybody, because it is a risk. And the sensitivity that i think is particularly important. What i would want to look at is what might be happening in the environment that might be predicting or contributing to this kind of behavior. Generally speaking, from an evidence based standpoint, behavior works. That is to say that behavior is functional. So, if i work backwards from there, what is, quote, working about this behavior for commander . It seems like there is a lot of other support to be had that may be specific to who this dog is as ascendant being, and what kind of adjustments can be made in the environment that support everybody safety and his wellbeing. And it seems like also the Secret Service has been a particular target of commander. What do you think could be triggering him there . I think one of the things that are wonderful about German Shepherds, their loyalty, their acute awareness to changes in the environment. Its not unusual for a German Shepherd to be highly sensitive to changes in sight, sound, or movement. Sometimes something as unusual as a suit or somebody wearing sunglasses can be a stress or, if not an actual trigger. Its not a coincidence that i get the chance to speak with you. I was in love with dogs. When i was a kid, i got bit on halloween by a German Shepherd. So, i have spent a lot of time, including the one i am currently living with, thinking about how i can better support the animals as so that they do not feel compelled to behave that way. Yeah, a really difficult question. German shepherds are notoriously protective, but when that behavior ends up injuring people, it becomes a real problem. As you pointed out, nobody wants anything bad to happen to either the people in the white house, four to commander either. Matt beisner, thank you so much for sharing that with us. Thank you for your time. And im happy to offer my services. New tonight, cnn is learning that Liz Cheney Liz cheney played a role in Kevin Mccarthys ouster. Hear what she told democrats. Plus, jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers is taking shots at another nfl player for getting shot, and theres a lot of irony involved. We will explain, next. Aaron rodgers is taking some posh outside of fellow player while he is out with an injury. The nfl star went after travis kelce, whom, we should note, is dating taylor swift over Travis Kelces new ad for pfizer. It promotes flu and covid shots. Crazy game, and mr. Pfizer, we kind of shut him down and crazy impact on some yards and stuff. Now, Aaron Rodgers famously refused to get the covid vaccine. And he is accused of misleading the league about his vaccination status. But the irony here is that Aaron Rodgers works for one of the heirs of big farmer, Woody Johnson of the Johnson Johnson empire. Essentially, hes taking a paycheck from the very man whose wealth comes from the pharmaceutical powers that he is denouncing. Laura, some people dont have a sense of irony. Luckily why we are here to i am just glad that you dont want me to talk about taylor swift right now. You can. No, no,