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Us and the people work for a living in this country. All right. Anita dunn, thank you very much. A senior adviser, of course, to President Biden. And outfront now, dan cluchey, the former senior speechwriter for President Biden, who worked on multiple major biden speeches during the 2022 State Of The Union speech and the 2021 inaugural address. And david litt, speechwriter for thenpresident obama. Okay. Thanks very much to both of you. So here we are. Were less than two hours away, from from this going to be a major speech from biden. And i think, safe to say, sort of my interpretation, from spending time with him today is its hes going to take his time and hes going to talk about a lot of things, we know he reached out to tv president s, tv president s like morgan, morgan freeman, gina davis. Yeah, i mean, why do you think he did that . Well, can i say he neglected bill pullman, who i think is the best tv president s speech has gotten . No, i was not all inclusive with my list. I was looking for martin sheen, and i missed it. Thats true. Yeah, what i was going to say about that is i feel like there were two things going on. First of all, its just a nice moment to have some fun and be a normal person, earlier you were talking about these implicit contrasts with trump. It is weird that were in this moment where where if joe biden says, im, i believe in being nice to people and liking america, youre like, oh, hes talking about trump. But thats where we are. So i think that normalcy is very helpful. The other thing that i think is going on is this is a little bit of a flex, because these are people with big platforms that are saying, were all in on biden. Were going to help him spread his message. And thats not just tonight. Thats going to be true all the way through november. And id add to that its a nice contrast with the pomp and circumstance of the state of the Union Address tonight. He can also show up and speak to the American People in, in ways that are more fun and more casual, and they get another sense of him in that way as well. I mean, i dont know, maybe, perhaps it was in part he seems to want spontaneity tonight. I mean, he had that moment, the viral moment last year, you know, during the State Of The Union, talking about taxes. I want to play it because it seems to be something that he would embrace. The possibility maybe thats why he was talking to tv president s, that he might embrace Something Like that happen again. Let me just play it for everyone to remind you. Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some republicans, some republicans want medicare and Social Security. Sunset. Im not saying its a majority. Let me give you anybody who doubts it. Contact my office. Ill give you a copy. Ill give you a copy of the proposal. You think he wants a moment like that tonight . Its sacrilegious for a speechwriter to admit this, but this president is often at his best when hes off script and hes just having a natural reaction and working quickly. You know, i cant say that he wants another, another heckle to come through. But the last time they tried it, he was able to negotiate to save medicare and Social Security in real time. So, i think hell be ready if it happens again. And how does Something Like that happen . I mean, you know, obviously you want you want a moment like that, although but then you want it to be controlled. Well, i think thats always the challenge in life. Right. You want control and spontaneity. And whether youre the president or youre just people, it would be great to have everything. And thats just not the way it works. I think that what you can do, though, is you can prepare so one of the things that really strikes me about the State Of The Union is this used to be a monologue, and now its become not just a dialog, but whatever you call all of the members of congress. Alag well, its more interactive and maybe, maybe reflecting the world that we live in. Yeah, right. Twitter back and forth with a bunch of people you dont know all the time. And i mean, maybe its twitter back and forth. Its people who are who are thinking, okay, how do i go viral for my heckle of the president . Rather than just sitting there and saying, okay, this is not my moment, you get a whole bunch of different things. So i do think that that gives the president a the opportunity to say, okay, we have a some idea of whats going to come. We have some idea of which moments people might get a little, you know, a little eager to state their own view, even though they have not won a president ial election yet. And so that you can prepare for that, even if you cant control it perfectly. All right. I want to go ahead. Yeah. Oh, by the same token, you can prepare all you want, but you dont know what a random member of congress is going to happen to shout out or or when they will. And you know, the president cant go in there with a menu of one liners for any situation. What he can do is be quick on his feet, be knowledgeable. Thats what he showed last year and we may see it. Well, everyones going to be watching for that, right . Especially in the context of what we know the American People care about and are worried about vitality, you know, age, memory, all those things. Right, that theyre watching for that. All right. I actually wanted to i wanted to play something from the actors that the president spoke to in preparing for this. And now i you know, i feel a little embarrassed. Bill pullman is not not is not no sort. Oh, im sorry. Its not here at all. Okay oh, we do have it. Okay. But hes still not in it. Im sorry. Hes still not in it. But let me just play what we have. Go ahead. My advice is, just keep telling us how youre working for us and building hope. I learned that having a loving partner changes everything. Love and compassion as a leader are strengths. Theyre not weaknesses. And our key to your character. So let that shine through in your speech. Whoever thought of that, i mean, you know, thought of doing that, thought of doing that segment or thought of i mean, ive thought of the concept and putting it out there, i mean, you know, thats its a good thinking, you know, i have no idea. One of the things that i learned, though, working in the white house, i dont know if that the same experience is sometimes you have ideas and then if you find the right person and you know, people who are more important than you, take an interest in them. Yeah, something could go from a whim to being something on, you know, that were talking about on National News surprisingly quickly. That does not happen in ones postwhite house life, ive learned. So its a its an exciting thing about that job. I mean, it really is like its for creative, talented people pushing the envelope. Theres really nowhere else to theres really nowhere else valuable to be. Talk about loving your work. Thats great to hear. All right. Well, thank you both so much. I appreciate it. And obviously were going to see what the president and those working with him on this speech have come up with and what we expect will be a long and substantive speech tonight. Outfront next, trump welcoming a far right nationalist, the Prime Minister of hungary, to maralago. Now some people dont like him because hes too strong. Its nice to have a strong man running your country. So do you just believe him at his face value here. Is that how hed like to run this country . 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We are live from capitol hill tonight as President Biden prepares to address the nation, former President Trump prepares to meet with an authoritarian leader. He will be hosting hungarys authoritarian, authoritarian authority, an im sorry leader, viktor orban, tomorrow at mar a lago. And the two of them do have a lot in common. They both embrace strongman rhetoric. He is out front. Respected all over europe, probably like me. A little bit controversial, but thats okay. In style and in substance. I like mavericks, and hes like that. Former President Donald Trump in hungarian Prime Minister viktor orban are two leaders sharing one playbook. Some people dont like him because hes too strong. Its nice to have a strong man in running your country hard charging the globalist can all go to hell. Brash and antagonistic. Accusing us is fake news, and those who make these claims are simply idiots publicly praising each other. He doesnt allow illegals into his country. 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I dont want to give them any ideas they know best how to write fake news. Fake news is all you get, and they are indeed the enemy of the people in the u. S, orban has become an icon in some far right circles, even as his government is seen by many as authoritarian. Has changed Election Rules to his benefit, and threatened his political dissenters and rivals. What orban represents at one level that is the maga America First movement here scoring him prime Speaking Spots at the conservative confab cpac, attracting the adoration of some of the republican partys top right wing voices. You know, its amazing just to see that and what is on the agenda for their meeting. And then what else is he doing here . Obviously, we saw a picture there in your piece of orban and kari lake, for example. Thats right. And so not much is known about this meeting thats going to happen tomorrow night at mar a lago, trumps resort down in florida. Its a private meeting, of course, between the two leaders. But the timing is so interesting here too, right . Its an interesting moment for trump. Just as hes about to clinch potentially the trump the republican nomination notably orban, though, is not going to be meeting with anyone from the Biden Administration. Its expected that he will not be meeting anyone from the Biden Administration while hes here, so thats significant. But he, however, did today, spend some time with the leader of the heritage foundation, that, of course, a conservative think tank very closely aligned with President Trump. All right, sunlen, thank you very much. And our special coverage of bidens State Of The Union continues. And there is new reporting this hour that the disgraced former congressman, jorge santos, is actually expected to make a surprise appearance tonight where we are. Plus, putins next move, a top American General Tonight Warning that Central Africa is at a Tipping Point as putin seems hell bent on taking control of that region to vegas. 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Youre looking live at Statuary Hall on capitol hill, where people are now arriving for what truly may be the most consequential address of President Bidens political career and an important focus for him tonight will be reproductive rights in an excerpt of his speech just released, biden will say and i quote clearly, those bragging about Overturning Roe V Wade have no clue about the power of women in america, butut they fod out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot and won in 2022, 2023. And they will find out again in 2024. All right, dana bash is outfront now. And dana, youve been had a chance where you are right now as people are coming in and with your reporting all day to speak to lawmakers on capitol hill ahead of this speech, what is the mood tonight . Well, let me just set the scene. Whats happening right now where i am, as you said, im in Statuary Hall. You see a parade of people coming in and theyre heading into the House Chamber. This is the diplomatic corps. This tends to be the first group of people that gets seated inside the House Chamber. And then later, obviously, well have the actual members of congress who are the formal members of the audience. And the answer to your question, erin, is it does feel different this year. I have covered i dont even know how many states of the union and just joint addresses by my president. And its always electric. Theres always kind of a Crackling Feeling in the atmosphere over here on capitol hill. This feels different because the stakes are just so obvious. The stakes are obvious first and foremost for the president of the United States and for his party. And theres tension and theres a bit of anxiety. The public line is that they know that hell be great and they know that he just has to communicate what hes done and what hes going to do. But this is something that the democrats who im talking to are so focused on pretty much more than i have ever seen when it comes to not just the substance of what the president is going to say, but the performance. Yeah, as you say, the performance, you know, the not the not the opposite of substance. But yeah, how he looks and how he sounds, i mean, what are they hoping he can accomplish tonight with voters who obviously have made it clear in poll after poll that in addition to the substantive issues, they care about the economy, border is the top ones care deeply and have deep fears about his age. Yeah, and we saw in one of the excerpts that you were talking about that he at least in what weve seen, he is going to try to address it head on. I mean, maybe its a little bit subtle, but he is going to talk about his age and start to say that thats an asset. That is the kind of thing that a lot of democrats who have spoken to say that they hope that he does. He certainly a lot of these members who are here, they can go out and they go on your show and they go on on my program. And they talk about the contrast between joe biden and donald trump. They talk about the litany of things that they believe that that biden accomplished again, and that he hopes to accomplish in the future. And what they are hoping is that he can be that kind of messenger for their party and ultimately, for a second terme. And the stakes are very high, as i said, not just because this is an Election Year and this is the biggest audience he will have likely until the convention this summer. But because of the contrast and that that word contrast is a word that we hear over and over, which is a not so subtle way of saying its either joe biden or donald trump. All right, dan, and of course, dan is going to be in Statuary Hall throughout the evening talking to everyone in our special coverage. And outfront now with me here on capitol hill, shermichael singleton, republican strategist whos worked on multiple president ial campaigns, and jamal simmons, former Communications Director for Vice President. Harris. Okay. Jamal. So interesting. You know what dana just referred to there . He doesnt use the word trump, at least in the excerpt that we have. But, i mean, this ones loud and clear. My lifetime has taught me to embrace freedom and democracy. This is what the president will say, a future based on the core values that have defined america honesty, decency, decent dignity, equality. To respect everyone, to give everyone a fair shot, to give hate. No safe harbor. Now some other people my age see a different story. An american story of resentment, revenge and retribution. Thats not me, you know, so theres no fig leaf there on what hes doing. Oh yeah. We know exactly who it is hes talking about. The white house is very clear. They are focused on making the contrast between the president and the former president and let people know either you can go back to chaos and instability, or we can have a government where everybody works. You know, we have people arriving here right now. Tonight i mean, and im here. This is like one of the Big Grand Nights of our democracy. Right . Here it is, dana, talking about that crackling energy. Thats right. And in a town that the country doesnt necessarily associate with those words crackling energy, it is that way tonight. It is that way tonight. No, its true. And like two years ago, i was here with the Vice President when she was sitting on the podium, i was, you know, when i was working for her at the white house. And im sitting here and im just thinking about all the people who were out there protesting on january 6th. That was two, four years ago, almost four years ago now, three years ago. Right here. Were here. This is the cradle of our democracy. And this night is one of the nights where our democracy really does speak for itself. The president of the United States, speaking to all the members of congress, all the senators. And i think the contrast is, do you want a president who respects this building and respects this process, or one who encourages insurrection . Thats part of what it is were up against. Im going to push back a little bit. I think the president is speaking before a country thats severely struggling economically. Financially. You have people who want better jobs, they want higher wages. You have people who cant pay for the basic necessities. You have people who wonder if they can even put gas in their cars. You have people who are seeing an Immigration System and a broken border where individuals are coming into their cities, tapping into already limited resources with programs that already dont have enough funding. And so people are asking themselves, is joe biden the best person to continue to lead the country for another four years . You had a cbs poll that came out a couple of weeks ago, where 65 of americans said that they believe the economy was better under donald trump. Only 38 said the same thing about President Biden. So the president is going into tonight, jamal, with a lot of struggles ahead of him, can he accomplish convincing the American People that he can continue to do the job . Well, im not certain, erin, that he can. Jamal. Thats a tough line to walk because you just gave a bunch of stats that are true. There are also other stats that are true that show, you know, unemployment, plunging and wages rising and right. All these things are true at the same time. But jamal, when you go in and you tell people all the good ones and it isnt necessarily how theyre feeling, how how do you walk that line . Its sort of like, give me credit for something that you arent feeling. So the president has to tell the story of what he did in the last three years. And we know all the stats. Unemployment is down for two years. We know that exports are up to now, but where they were in 2019, we know all these great stats. The question now is what are you going to do next, mr. President . And thats his challenge for tonight because elections are always about the future. Theyre not about the past really. The past is just an indicator about what youre going to do. So hes got to tell people whats going to happen next, and then hes got to say, but then theres this guy. And if you think things are a little bit troubled, remember your crazy exboyfriend, hes the one whos going to show up here and hes going to like, you know, start doing the things you didnt like. But when you guys were together, thats the case, that joe biden is an indicator of what the future outlook is going to be. It doesnt look great. Jamal you can talk about how great the Unemployment Numbers are on paper. It doesnt matter to erins point if people arent feeling it, then you add into the president s age and people are worried. Can he continue to even do the job for another four years . Democrats havent persuaded the American People that they that he can. People feel two things and remember this. Theres the economy. Theres also whats happening in the social structure. Right. Abortion is still an issue. Democracy is still an issue. People do care about this. And theyve got katie britt talking tonight, whos from alabama where they had years old, 42 years old. But shes in the state where ivf just the Supreme Court went to make ivf illegal. Right. So shes a woman and im sure shes well aware of how important well, age is at the center of everything. The other thing is, is you have, you know, when you talk about the energy and but you also talked the respect for the building. Yeah. The times have changed in a sense in that room. Right. Its more interactive. Yeah. As a speechwriter, just saying more interactive than its ever been. And theres positives to that. And part of thats cultural and the way we are. Then theres the lack of decorum that can come with it, shall we say. So we dont know whatll happen tonight. But sure, we do Know Jorge Santos is there. He is not a current representative. Hes not, he got the boot. I would like to move on from jorge santos, but the fact that hes here says something about what . Somebody, you know, kind of wants there to be a focus or wants to happen. What is that . I mean, i think it says a lot about his ego and whomever invited him. From my understanding, speaker johnson wants to showcase civility, but he also wants to showcase that the republican conference can lead for the American People, that they can fight for immigration. So you dont think hes happy with with santos being there and sort of a worried about that . I think hes more worried about how can i one protect my position and protect my conference. But number two, how can i deliver results for the American People . You know, we talk a lot about the economy and democrats, in my opinion, want to add more to the budget. And republicans are saying we need to spend less because people have to spend less in their homes. Erin, why shouldnt congress do the same . Hell make the point tonight that hes cut the deficit. Well see. Yes. Ever since they yelled, you lie at barack obama, they yelled at joe biden when he gave the speech last year. There is no evidence that this republican conference is going to have more decorum than any other. One. Fair point. Okay. Lets lets end on a note of agreement. All right. Thank you both. And next, our special coverage does continue with trump on the cusp of clinching the republican nomination. Should he be allowed to start receiving classified briefings again. Yes. This is the moment that we are at as a country. 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Im Arlette Saenz at the white house and this is cnn. Welcome back to a Special Edition of Outfront Live On capitol hill for tonights state of the Union Address. President bidens speech will be watched very closely around the world, especially in places like ukraine, where the crucial Military Aid Bill is still stalled in congress. And just take a look at this new video in this video, what you see are ukrainian drones striking a convoy of Russian Military vehicles. Ukraine saying u. S. Aid is crucial to keeping up each and every one of these small victories. Of course, weve also heard that theyre so desperately low on ammo that theyre literally only shooting smoke in some cases. Outfront now, democratic congressman ro khanna of california, hes on the Armed Services committee and the Advisory Board of the bidenharris 2024 campaign. So, congressman, hes going to talk about a lot of things tonight, but hes got to make a case to the republican conference who has completely stalled this aid. And an American Public who, you know, theres plenty of ambivalence about it. How does he do that . Erin i think he talks about american values. I mean, we have always stood up for democracy, for freedom. Here you have putin , russia invading ukraine, killing civilians, and the war will not succeed for ukraine if we dont provide aid. I mean, the ambassador of estonia was in my office today, as were other baltic ambassadors pleading. Saying we need this aid. And they feel that. I mean, how tangible is it to them that they could be next . The real risk of this going bigger, its existential for them. And theyre saying, you know what he said to me . He said, were putting 3 of our gdp into aiding ukraine. Were doing more than our part. Were simply asking that the United States step up. And this is a risk to not just ukraine. Its a risk to the baltics. And they believe that ukraine can an defeat the russians, that theyre on the path to being able to win the war, but they need the aid. So the top us general overseeing africa warned Congress Today that putin is determined to take over Central Africa, warning that several countries are at a Tipping Point of basically capture being captured by russian influence. And weve seen that in places like burkina faso and across. Youve seen it with arms deals. Obviously, that then solidifies russias control of a lot of Bass Minerals that are required for the running of the us economy. How worried are you about it . Im worried, and im particularly worried because weve lost out not just to potentially russia, but to china. American interests in africa have been compromised. What i dont understand is i grew up in the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan was the strongest voice against the soviet union. Mitt romney ran his whole race in 2012, warning about russia. I just dont recognize the modern republican party. I think thats what President Biden ought to say tonight. He can just quote republican after republican. Well, one of mitt romneys most famous moments in that was actually in the debate, right . When he was warning about russia and obama. What was it, bayonets or that whole moment . Okay, President Trump, the former President Trump is essentially now the gop nominee. He will formally clinch that next week, most likely. So the way that it goes is the Party Nominee traditionally, obviously has access to classified briefings. This nominee is criminally charged with violating the rule of law on classified documents. So should tradition hold and he get these briefings as that court case winds its way through the system where we very well may not get a verdict even before election day or not. Well, look, ill let the courts speak to that. I dont think its for politicians to be opining on a legal matter. Let this process play out. Let the court trial play out. Let the Supreme Court rule on these very complex issues. And i respect the Supreme Courts decision that says that he has to be on the ballot. I mean, thats why so does he get the briefings, which is thats a matter of tradition, though, not not law, the classified briefings. In the meantime, i think we need to have the courts figure that out and, you know, have the courts make a determination how what he can be told as a republican nominee without compromising National Security. Obviously, those what i do think should happen, though, is the trials should be moving forward. I dont think anyone should be allowed to just punt a trial, a criminal trial, because theyre running for office. All right. Congressman khanna, thanks so much. I appreciate your time. Beautiful set i know. Right. Inspiring. And its a real backdrop. Always an inspiring moment for the country. It is. And its great to be here to witness this american moment. And next. 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Tonight. The president will enter the House Chamber in just about an hour, where he is expected to address, hamas and the more than 100 hostages still being held in gaza tonight, at least six of them we know to be american citizens. And tonights speech comes as a deal to free more hostages appears to be falling apart. Dozens of hostage families, though, will be in the audience tonight. Among them Israeli American Jonathan Declan and his wife, jillian kay. Jonathans son, sergei, who also has dual citizenship, is being held captive by hamas tonight for the 153rd day, and i spoke with them right before they went into the House Chamber moments ago. Jonathan sergei is still among the hostages. Its been 153 days as, of course, i know you have counted every single one. What do you want to hear from the president tonight . When he stands in front of this country . In the world . Well, i think that the very fact that we are. Desantis of the american hostages, i think that already says an awful lot about the administrations commitment to getting the hostages home. All of them, not just the us citizens and also the congressional support, whatever he can tell us, whatever hope he can give us, that there is a way forward is something that that would only add to that. But we feel by our very presence there that the Us Government and the executive and the legislative branches are with us. Theyre behind us. Jake sullivan, obviously, the National Security adviser, has been at the tip of the spear on this for President Biden, for the United States. I know you had a chance to meet with him. Was it just just yesterday . Did he was he able to give you any specifics or anything that gave you hope . Again, i think the magnitude of the us administrations engagement in this is a hopeful factor, because if we were to listen just to hamas and certain parts of the Israeli Government, we probably would lose hope that the hostages will come home and have have has anyone in the Israeli Government or the Us Government, its a hard question to ask, but do they know hes okay . I mean, do they know hes alive . Well, were among the fortunate ones, we actually from october 7th until late november, we didnt know if sagir, actually, anyone else amongst the hostages were alive or not in that first wave of hostages that were released, 100 hostages or so, 40 of them were from our Community Kibbutz near ose, women and children and some of the women and a couple of the teenagers who had been released were able to tell us that they had seen sagi in the tunnel in hamass Tunnels Under Khan Younis a few days before. So as of late november, early december, we have Proof Of Life for him and many others in our community. Of course, that thats an eternity ago, of course, and conditions we know have only gotten worse, and the exposure of all the hostages of all ages is they are on the brink of death. This much . We are pretty sure of. And so the urgency is extreme. That that this negotiated process moved forward and that requires all of the parties to negotiate. Thats amazing as a father, that you can speak so about it, because i can only imagine your heart. Jillian, there has been one joy for your family, and that is that the siggis baby, his third child, was born in december. And amidst the sadness of that child being born without him, there is new life in your family, how is his wife dealing with that . How are all of you dealing with that, well, shachar, who is our newest grandchild, is who was born a couple of months ago. Now she is, you know, shes the shining light in this unbelievable, impenetrable darkness that were all living in, shes adorable. Shes sweet. Shes thriving. Avital, my daughter in law, shes a lion. She shes rallied. She is raising three daughters on her own, sad. Its very hard. The his two older daughters ask a lot of questions that none of us can answer about where their father is when hes coming home. Its. Its devastating. And its a devastating for her because she has no, no answers to give. But, but we all yes, shachar is, she is adorable. And as i said, thriving. And i do just want to add, you know, there is a theres a bittersweetness to this in so many ways. And one of them is that, her name, which means dawn in hebrew, also, shes named after a little girl who was one of siggis other daughters, best friends. And this little girl, shachar, her sister, her Little Brother and her parents were brutally murdered, on october 7th. They. The two families were best. The best of friends. And as i said, shachar is named also in memory of her. And thats something that we live with. I hope that in the from this darkness will come a dawn that she. Will. She will be the symbol of that forevermore. Thank you both so much. Thank you. And thanks so much to all of you for joining us. Ill be live here on capitol hill throughout the evening as our special coverage of the State Of The Union continues. Ac360 starts now

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