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Id run next the Breaking News. Hes going to tell you about his very conversation with Rfa Junior On that topic next, im Breaking News, new reporting tonight on who may be responsible for the vicious attack on Alexey Navalnys keep of staff the Investigative Reporter, Christo Grozev, who exposed the plot to kill navalny with novichok, joins me now with his new reporting. Lets go out front and good evening. Im erin burnett and outfront tonight, the Breaking News, trump rejected the judge in the maralago classified documents case tonight, denying trump specifically, one of his key arguments pushing to dismiss the entire case trump was there in person today, and the stakes were high its a setback for trump from a judge that he had pointed and has heavily praised im very proud to have appointed her, but she very smart and very strong and levs our country it is unclear when you hear that and you know, of course, he did a pointer is unclear if judge cannon will end up saving trump from a trial before the election . So many of her rulings at this case thus far have gone in his favor and she was tightlipped today about when the trial will start. It is still officially scheduled for may 20, although she has said that date is not going to happen and today theyre came another delay that trump wanted way up north in new york. Were prosecutors are now proposing to push back the start of trumps Hush Money Trial by up to 30 days. Now remember, this Criminal Trial was first one of these that was going to happen and maybe the only one to happen in full before the election, it was set to begin in less than two weeks from tonight but now the start date is up in the air after prosecutors said they would give times team more time to review new records from federal prosecutors. Delay after delay. And what was the Jam Pack Calendar of court dates for trump number it was all going to be hows he going to get it all done while hes running in the primaries . Well, the primaries would still be going on and they, of course not ended so quickly. But now, forget the primaries, his Hush Money Trial is possibly delayed till the end of april, and that would be the first one, the federal january 6 case that is now on hold until after the Supreme Court oral arguments those already been scheduled till april 22, then you have the arguments, you have the Decision Experts dont expect that went even start till maybe the summer. His Georgia Election interference case, the Da Fani Willis would like to start on august 5th, but that date is totally up in the air because, uh, judges deciding whether Ban Fani Willis well even beyond the case or whether she gets removed and of course, the classified documents case itself, theres still no word on when that trial will begin. Trump arguing it should not even start until after the november election and these delays are potentially trumps ticket to freedom. If he wins we want delays. Obviously, im running for election we want to liaise, obviously, running for election. He said it himself and we have a team of reporters standing by tonight, Katelyn Polantz is outside that courthouse in florida. Evan perez is in washington. Kaitlan. Let me start with you because judge cannon already rejecting one of trumps motions. So what more can you tell us about the hearing today . That hearing where of course he chose to be inperson aaron, there was no delay today from judge cannon in her decision to reject one of trumps arguments but what is happening here in this case is trump is putting all of his Defense Arguments before the judge asking her to dismiss the case. Shes looking at those one by one today. She looked at two of nine of those arguments that he and his codefendants since are making all different arguments about why they think the case should be dismissed. And weve gotten one ruling that was in after he argued that the law was too vague around National Defense secrets. She said thats not something that im going to decide that might be something you may want to argue two jury later, or we could look at later on and argue in this case. But im not dismissing the case. Right now. Theyre still as another argument that was made in court today about donald trump keeping the records that were removed from the white house and that he took tomorrow logo and kept after he left the presidency, that those were his personal records. Judge Aileen Cannon seem pretty skeptical of that, but now we wait to see exactly what she will do. Shes been very cautious not to tip her hand in court that she did a bit today she did set shed some skepticism toward trump and his lawyers for what they were arguing today. But everyone here in this case, its very clear that theres a lot of work to do. Theres a long road ahead of them. Theyve spent hours and hours in court together, trump himself in court seems to be quite comfortable chatting with his lawyers, listening are reported some uproot producers in the room today even caught some people maybe nodding off as this hearing dragged on well into the afternoon. But there are many, many hours ahead and many ruling comment from judge Aileen Cannon before we get to a trial and probably get to a trial or even a known trial date. Katelyn polantz. Thank you so much, caitlin, an app that courthouse today and i want to go now to evan perez because he is closely following the late developments i mentioned in the trump Hush Money Case that first criminal case that was scheduled to start in two weeks, seven and now maybe not maybe not for another 30 days yeah, leave 30 days. Aaron is almost certain to the judge is going to delay this trial because now the district attorney, alvin bragg is saying that they are okay with delaying this. My at least 30 days up to 30 days . The trump team had asked for 90 day delay because they said of various discovery problems. This is the whole principle that the prosecution has a duty to turn over every all documents that are relevant to trial in order for the defense to be able to be able to to to prepare for trial, of course. So what has happened according to the district attorney, is that just yesterday, they received about 31,000 pages of documents from the Justice Department that the defense had requested. Now, these are documents. We dont know exactly what these documents are, but we know that get rid documents at the defence said that they had requested from the Justice Department because as you know, the Justice Department had investigated this these allegations of the trump paying hush money ahead of the 2016 election. They had looked at it in the Trump Administration and also looked at it in the Biden Administration and declined to prosecute oh those documents were under a subpoena from the defense and some of those documents only came in yesterday. Heres the thing. According to this filing from the district attorney, there may be more documents that may be coming in. So the issue now becomes, how long does judge delays this trial, as you pointed out this was supposed to start in less than two weeks. And so the question is, does he go with 30 days . Does he go all the way to 90 days, which is what trump is asking or somewhere inbetween erin. All right. Thank you very much. Evan perez in washington and outfront. Now, the former Trump White House lawyer, ty cobb. So tie obviously, every development is significant in terms of the ripple effect, didnt could have. And judge cannon, Aileen Cannon, rejecting one of trumps key motions to dismiss the case today but you think that it may still have been a good day for trump. Explain how come . Because it was the day and delay is his whole objective. Every day counts. The fact that she denied the motion is really sort of inconsequential in my view because, you know, all nine motions to dismiss or frivolous it wouldnt take most judges a week to decisively rule on all of them. Not sure why argument is even required. The positions that trumps lawyers have taken are so absurd but i think its good that today she came to court, prepared for change. She actually issued a ruling on one of the motions that was argued, but not the other the other motion, frankly, is an easier motion to dismiss for the court to do. Ms and say that trumps wrong because its even more absurd than the one that she did dismiss today. On the vagueness issue. So yeah. Anything that slows things down and she doesnt she just doesnt have this on a schedule that is likely to get the case resolved before the or even to trial before the election. And i think any trial date that she ultimately sets now, even if she goes with the defendants, suggested trial date in august over the smith trial date, month or so earlier. The reality is that date will move to this case is not going to go to trial before the election, and i think everything that she has done to date ensures that which is an incredible bottom line when you think about it. And i think the context is so important of what youre saying that those nine motions, as you see them are frivolous that she could rule on them. You dont need every time to have a hearing and a date and an argument in court. And yet that is that is whats happened Katelyn Polantz described Aileen Cannon as skeptical of the notion that trump had the power to desi think the records as personal and take them with him to maralago when his presidency ended. But she did say that that could be a quote, forceful trial defense. So its sort of unclear where she stood at least from that. Is there any merit to that argument . None. And in fact, at 30,000 feet, you have to ask yourself, how would that ever get in front of the jury . The only way for that to get in front of the jury. The argument that trump had designated the documents as personal to himself is if trump testifies and trumps never gonna testify, i mean, he would get eviscerated. So in the absence of any evidence that supports a legal argument you cant make the argument. The arguments have to be based on the evidence and based on the facts and based on the Jury Instructions relevant to the Jury Instructions. And there is no Jury Instruction that says under the under the Pra The Public Records Act that a president can designate things personal turned off if he so decides thats not in the law, its not in the statute, its just sort of a silly argument and it has no no legal support. I remember the day when hes i can i just have to sort of think about it and it is. So the alvin bragg situation, obviously, trumps team had asked for 90 days of a delay. Alvin bragg came out and is agreeing and a sensitive delays is necessary right . Clearly, saying 30 days that they would go with 30 days. What does this mean . Well, so what it means for sure is that the case will be delayed. Judge merchant is not going to risk being reversed on forcing the trial to date earlier than both both the prosecution and defense agree as appropriate. I think its also means that yeah, the das office just as badly managed this case. These documents have been out there for two years ever since the Southern District decided not to pursue charges against the former president after having prosecuted my colon. Keep in mind that both the sec and the Southern District concluded this case required no no action and they both passed on it. And then braggs team came up with this tortured misdemeanor attached to a federal crime theory that has no precedent that supports it. And and for case that even if it ever gets to trial is going to be inconsequential to trump. Trumps not going to go to jail in this case. Its 130,000 a first offense under the new are guidelines. Thats just not a its not worthy of any jail time and itll be on appeal. When he gets if he if he gets elected, itll be on appeal. During that time and it wouldnt be enforceable for four more years so its sort of its sort of an unusual case to gum up the works and moving it back. Of Course Screws up other timelines like the potential for either the classified documents case where the january 6 case to get to trial. All right. But ty cobb, thank you very much. Always appreciate you. Your Point Of View. And as thai is wrapping here, we do have some Breaking News of a verdict which has been reached in the James Crumbley trial. Heres the michigan father, whose son shot and killed four of his classmates in 2021. Prosecutors painted crumbley is a careless, negligent father, who bought his son the gun that the son used in the School Shooting his wife, jennifer, has already been found guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter, and is set to be sentenced in a few weeks. I want to go to whitney wild. Shes been following this trial as we are watching the jury Comeback Weighting of this verdict that we hope to be able to actually hear this live whitney, what are we looking at . And obviously this is victims families are in this room waiting i cannot stress enough era and the significance of this moment, this is the end of this horrific more than two years saga for these families that began november 30th, our winning sorry to interrupt. 18yearold so you think lets just listen here. I think theyve just started so well listen together to know about me, read into the record i consulted with the attorneys who answered the question so the question back, they agreed on the answer. The jury asked, please define article 16 quick. 13 for what number four, defined willfully neglected grossly negligent. The lawyers agreed to answer the question, please see Jury Instructions 16. 18, for the definition, grocery negligence, all other definitions are contained within Jury Instructions 16, 32 i also want to point out that theres a request by commedia to ask the jury members if they would be going training and the courthouse and be questioned off camera because there would be a verdict and no other defendant, tenant hey, trial. I would have been willing to do that. But the courthouse closes at 04 30, and i have continually imposed on the courthouse for this sake of this trial. And the other one, i cannot impose on the staff for the deputies and any further i also wanted to point to indicate that with regard to cases remember, 22 to fh the pupil versus jennifer crumbley. There is an order restricting pretrial publicity. It was entered in july 14th, 2022, that border will be set aside as soon as the verdict was read. I will also be issuing an order that will obviously not be made public in the courthouse until tomorrow morning. Im in addition, case number 20227998 nine fh of the people versus jame James Crumbley. The same thing. The order restricting pretrial publicity was entered on july 14, 2022, and that order will also be satisfied as of the reading and the verdict, are you ready for the jury . Yes. Right. Thats right all right good evening. Seated ladies and gentlemen, i know youve worked very hard with all been awaiting your decision. I know this was a very intense decision for you all to make i believe youve selected a poor person whos the foreperson, your the foreperson. Could you read the verdict . Police each . Sure. How one Involuntary Manslaughter as to Madison Baldwin guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter perhaps involvement Involuntary Manslaughter as up mirrored guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter as column three in bottled manslaughter, extra hamas and giulianna, guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter as honestly, giulianna for Involuntary Manslaughter as To Justin Shilling guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter yes suggestions thank you for person im going to ask that ms williams pull the jury. So shes going to ask you each during seat number one, why that is that your verdict . During think number two, was that is that your verdict . Yes. During feet number three, was that and if that youve heard it during seat number for why that is that your verdict . During seat number six . Wife, that and event your verdict during feet number seven, was that if that yogurt during feet number eight, points that in effect your verdict during sleep. Number nine, what that in effect youre dirty feet. Number 11, was that an insight your verdict it is. During Sleep Numbers while was that is that your verdict . Yes it. Is during seat number 13, why is that is that your verdict . It is. Stirring. Seek number 14. Was that and is that your verdict thank you, ladies and gentlemen, i know how hard this has been on all of you, despite reading your face i know this has been a very hard decision. We appreciate your time. Im going to ask you to return to the jury room and ill be there. Are there with you in a few minutes . All right . All rise for the jury James Crumbley found guilty of all four counts of Involuntary Manslaughter, or you heard each of the jurors their confirmed that was their verdict whitney wild. We were able to look at James Crumbley, the father of Ethan Crumbley, who killed four of his classmates, murdered four of his classmates. His father james, now convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter. He was wearing those sort of headphones. He has a hearing impairment. You could see him visibly shaking his head each time the word guilty was said by the foreperson of that jury well, thats right. Aaron and his defense and continuously argued that he had no knowledge that his son posed any the harm to anyone else and that in fact, he had tried to keep a firearm out of Ethan Crumbleys hands by hiding it in an arm war in his, in his bedroom, and then separating out the ammunition and hiding it under eighth a pair of jeans and it was really the its two these two elements that prosecutors really dug into in the case. And it was this idea that Ethan Crumbley had declining Mental Health and it was obvious to everyone and someone should have act specifically, his parents should have acted because there were just signs over and over and over four months leading up to the shooting that he pose a risk to those around him, as well as to himself. So that was the first thing. And then specifically with the James Crumbley trial and a really dug into the securing of the firearm a couple of pieces of evidence that prosecutors brought forth again, was the idea that you this hand going to happen stored, but it didnt have a a lock on the firearm i made it takes just seconds to lock up a firearm with a walk that is standard that comes in a kit with a handgun. He didnt do that. That was one of the things that prosecutors really dug into. We cant know what piece of evidence it was that pushed the jury in this direction, but other pieces of evidence that they brought forth included a april of ive 2021 text message that Ethan Crumbley sent to a friend. And in it, he said that he had told his father that he was hearing people talk to him and seeing someone in the distance. And heres a quote from the text from ethan to his friend. I actually asked my dad to take me to the dr. Yesterday, but he just gave me some pills and told me to suck it up. So those are some major pieces of evidence, aaron, that that jurors heard throughout the trial. This trial saw 15 witnesses for prosecutor spread over five days. The defense brought just one witness, James Crumbley, sister, karen crumbley, who said that she saw the family and april and that again in june 2021 and she did not see anything that seemed off anything concerning at all. But another piece of evidence, aaron. And just to wrap it up, that button, prosecutors really leaned into was this idea that it was James Crumbley who brought ethan to the gun range several times, at least six times from june 2021 through november, and that it was James Crumbley who bought the firearm, but you can eventually use to kill those four students and injure several others at his high school. Whitney. Thank you very much. And it is a significant verdict of this guilty verdict for James Crumbley, the father of Ethan Crumbley. This also follows the guilty the verdict for Ethan Crumbleys mother, jennifer crumbley, who was tried separately and is awaiting sentencing in early april guilty on all four counts. Ethan crumbley killed four of his Classmate T Is Serving Life In Prison without the possibility of parole, even though he was 15 at the time of the shooting. Joey jackson accent is with me now, criminal defense attorneys, cnn legal analyst, analysts do as you watched, the drama of this moment, a jury coming in a jury of James Crumbleys peers, coming to this conclusion that a father is guilty and liable, responsible, Involuntary Manslaughter, four murders that his son committed what is the significance of such a verdict yeah. And i think its just tremendously significant and so many ways. And i think were living in a new world now. And that new world is a prosecutor saying if were not going to have legislation, if were not going to have significant protections, were going to take it upon ourselves to use the law in a way that gets accountability to everyone and anyone who could have potentially been involved. And i think from a big picture perspective, this is not only about this jurisdiction, this is about jurisdictions every part of these 50 United States that can use this tool of negligence and use it effectively, right . Negligence and foreseeability. What does that mean . It means that if you are a parent and youre careless because you get your child a weapon and not only do you you get your child a weapon, but you fail to secure that weapon and you have or should have some sense of your childs Mental Health maladies and you do nothing to really oversee it or to act in a way that is appropriate, in a way that protects the public, then you could be accountable. And this is what this prosecutor we did on the issue of foreseeability. I dont think anyone can argue with a straight face that if you make a weapon available and your child is in the condition that your child is in that Something Like this is not likely to happen. And so from a big picture perspective, its not a surprising verdict, but i think its a verdict nowadays is going to be used as a tool by prosecutors and very effectively, i would think in order to deter this type of conduct moving forward. So joey, what happens now, as i said, now that James Crumbley has been found guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter for all four murders. His wife because been found guilty. Now, her sentencing i believe is gonna be april 9 or around around that date. So how long are they whats going to happen to them . How long are they going to go to prison . What happens here with this . Well quite a bit. I think what happens is that they will stay in custody. Remember that the total exposure by exposure, i mean the maximum that they are facing is 15 years. I would suspect that a judge in each of their cases, each being jennifer crumbley, the mother, as you noted, aaron being fence on april 9th, the sentencing date. Shes certainly to be imposed upon James Crumbley, who just now was convicted i would presume that both will get the maximum, and i think that when you sentence the purpose of that is punishment, deterrence, rehabilitation. What does all that mean . Means number one, you want to punish a person for their conduct or carelessness. In this case, right . So thats number one when you talk about deterrence, youre looking at deterring other people for doing Something Like this. And on the issue of rehabilitation, im sure attorneys log you. Hey, it wasnt their fault, et cetera. Bill patients shouldnt apply, but they think they will get the max and i think ultimately certainly they will appeal and well see what the Appellate Courts have to say. All right. So we thank you very much for joining us as we just got word of that momentous verdict. Next, dirty jobs host mike rowe is tackled with all sorts of 30 jobs. Now though, he is centered on rfk juniors list for Vice President so what did kennedy say . Two row when they spoke about the job, when they met, reveal next plus Breaking News, new Picture Showing Alexey Navalnys chief of staff. Just days before he was attacked viciously. Investigative reporter Christo Grozev is my guest with new reporting on the attack Erin Burnett Outfront is presented this thursday evening by chase. Stay tuned for anderson cooper, 360 at the top of the hour, followed by this source with kaitlan collins, presented by Chase Freedom unlimited. How do you cash back . Monday should worked as hard as that do. 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Mike rowe highlighted on it right now and he is out front with me to talk about this and more so all right. Migrate to see you. Lets just start with this. Kennedy talk to you about possibly joining his ticket what did he say its a weird world, man. I mean, you really like youre walking through an airport, youre minding your own business and you look up and there you are with wrestler and a motivational speaker end up star athlete. Yeah. He called actually, i ran into him about six months ago in dallas, totally serendipitously and we exchanged information and he reached out about a month ago. We had a meeting and we talked about a bunch. Mostly we talked about my foundation and he was very kind and it turns out this foundation ive been doing for about 16 years now, crow was very much on his mind yeah, micro works. So we talked about Vocational Training and weve talked about ways to maybe get the educational system and our country a bit more egalitarian. Weve talked about a lot of other stuff too, that at some point he asked me if id ever consider running for Public Office and i spent my coffee back into my cup and said seriously and he said, yeah. And so for The First Time on my life, i found myself having kind of a really serious conversation about what that even means and why i had that conversation. Im happy to talk about it if you you want, but it was it was not expected. But ultimately really kind of gratifying. And so i mean was he talking to you specifically about the vp role and what that meant and what that would mean to you. I mean, what can you give me more of a feel for what the conversation was about and how he behaved well hes very gracious and hes very smart, and hes very direct. And i had no idea what i was really walking into, but his his team was there and they were also super inquisitive. They they listened more than they talked. I wound up interviewing him. He interviewed me. We had a few laughs. It was a very friendly, very casual conversation, but he is serious. And when he talks about the things hes serious about, he leans in and its hard not to listen. He is serious about the debt. He doesnt want to see 34 trillion get 250, he believes if it does, the country can serve as it partys over. You serious about ending forever wars. Hes serious about weight waging war really on Chronic Disease and diabetes and things like that. We. Dont agree on everything thats for sure and when that became apparent, he just laughed and said, look, i dont want to surround myself with yes, menn and yes. Women. I want people who care about the country. I want people who tell me the truth as they see it and let the chips fall you said a lot of stuff that was good to hear. Frankly. Did i mean so when you talk about things, you didnt agree with him on, i mean, is there anything you can be specific on and did he bring up things that as you know, mike have been controversial. He talked about his care for health, for example vaccines. I mean, did topics like that come up directly . Not really because that stuff has been so talk to death in the media that hes everybody kind of knows. All right. This is the rap. Is there anything you want to say about it specifically . Honestly, aaron . Yeah. We did talk about some of that stuff and i dont know that its fair for me to really walk you through a chapter and verse. I told him, for instance, luck. I, im friendly with a lot of people in the Fossil Fuel Business thats not a secret. My foundation is supported by all sorts of people who he sued in the past. We laughed about that and just kept coming back to look. Were living in an extraordinary time. The headlines have never been like this. The things that we seem to agree on, we appear to agree on with a certain amount of passion and then it just became personal to tell you the truth. Look, ive been doing this foundation for 16 years at base. Its a pr campaign at base, its an attempt to raise awareness around a couple of things that matter to me. A lot. And he was very upfront about it. He said, look, mike that topic education middleclass Vocational Development and workforce and so forth. Thats thats the pointy part of the spear in my campaign it matters. And if you want to see your Foundation Go from mike rowe Works To Macro works. I think he said, then you should think about this. You should at least consider it and so i did consider it. You mean consider the vp slot . Sure. So when asked you one thing here as you talk about the seriousness with which rfk junior is taking, the decision, but he has to make and his campaign and the people around him on his list, you mentioned a sports star, that of course is the nfl quarterback, Aaron Rodgers and i dont know if, you know this but rodgers told two people and one of those people is cnns pamela brown. He told them about Conspiracy Theories about the 2012 shooting at sandy hook elementary, including saying the shooting was a government inside job that victims, families were crisis actors. Do you believe that that is a serious heres Point Of View is that somebody that should be on a kennedy ticket i have no idea. I think that i think he has a right to articulate whatever he wants and we have a right to respond. However, we want i have no idea what the man actually said. I did see something about it today, but i dont know what qualifies or disqualifies anybody from running for anything. Somebody said to me the other day, a friend of mine who saw the same graphic that you put up earlier . I think i think her exact question was how the hell are you qualified to do this . And i started to explain how she was right and how i wasnt. And abi said something to me. He said theres so many skeletons in my closet. If you really open it up and give it a look. And the end, if they could all vote id be king of the world, which made me laugh. Youd probably find stupid stuff that anybody has said. But what really qualifies a man or woman to run for president or Vice President. I think you gotta be 35. I think you need to have been born in this country after that. I dont know about qualifications. I guess we could talk experience and judgment and temperament and all of those other things and everybody gets to weigh and measure everybody and put it all under a microscope and and and decide. Personally, i stopped watching football after the colts left baltimore. So i dont know how much use i can be on that oh wow, i wouldnt even think wed have a baltimore connection like that. All right thanks. Hard. Aaron my heart as a maryland or i hear you. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time, mike. And its always great to see you shameless plug 1 Million Bucks for work ethic Scholarships Available now at micro works. 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You have shared new images of volkov with us these are images that you obtained of him from various sources. I dont know surveillance or what it was in the days before the attack. So what are you learning . Well, first of all, lets say that the official investigation has not disclosed any details yet. Lithuanian Law Enforcement are working on it and theyre asking everybody to be patient. However, in the meantime, theres this russian extremist farright row of white supremacist group, which formerly was called the mail stay at the more recently, changes next to the male Battalion Run by an extremist called of Vladimir Posner cough. They took credit for the attack, at least they claim seoul and they published some previously unseen footage that this suggests that there was some surveillance alone. It bulk of conducted by somebody doesnt it . You have to be necessarily by this group, but this group was given the footage and the footage is authenticated as real. We were able to actually geolocate the footage to the airport in vilnius the description of the snapshot two that was posted on this Telegram Channels run by posting a cough suggested that it was taken five to six days before the attack while he was coming from an overseas trip and his wife was waiting at the airport and they showed actually a closeup of the light slate of his car. Actually, the parking lot. So this was a an intelligence operation conducted on him by somebody. Now so an intelligence operation and to be clear, youre youre making several points here the intelligence that he was being trailed followed and they were they were tracking him even as he was unaware. That is that is true. And i dont believe that this could be done by a volunteer organization, extremist as it may be, we have to bring to the attention of the viewers the fact that theres many, many cases in the last few months where we see Russian Intelligence Services coopting, Organized Prime groups, extremist groups to actually do their bidding. And then pass it on as if its say grassroots operation. And i think this is likely to be one of these circumstances. And just to make the point very clear, youre saying that fsb using some of these criminal groups too some of these cases kill people. But this is exactly what you painstakingly proved in your investigation into the murder of Alexey Navalny himself . In that case, it was you were pointing the finger directly at the fsb in it at russian intelligence. But this seems to be a playbook, right . You track your photographic evidence, you track them for weeks in advance. That is true. That is true. But what has changed, the only thing that has changed in the meantime is that the russian agents Security Services find it hard to travel abroad. Then they did a few years back. Theres more awareness, theres more knowledge of the trade craft they used. And they tend to somehow use. Now these days they tend to use more for outsourcing to onto Organized Crime groups very recently, you may have seen coverage of a group of about six freelance Intelligence Operators who were arrested in uk. They were working for russias intelligence service, the fsb, the same one that poison Alexei Navalny The First Time around but they will private operators there were recently in this hasnt been reported yet. We will publish an investigation in in about a week on this. But there was a coopting of an Organized Crime figure from Eastern Europe to attack an Opposition Figure of Russia Living in latin america. So this is not The First Time that we see such intermingling of special services of russias intelligence operations and Organized Crime groups and i think well see more of that in the future. All right, so all of this is incredible and i think your point about how its harder for them to travel overseas so that theyre coopting these groups and that thats why youre seeing this now you also told me, christo, that your team has discovered a campaign against Alexey Navalnys wife, yulia a campaign to discredit her, but it started about ten days before navalnys murder with the clear implication being that they were setting it up to discredit her so that when they killed him and she inevitably tried to take the man until she would be diminished now, there is a video of a fig bbc report that is now circulating, being shared by prokremlin users on x. You are mentioned in it. And its alleging that you discovered that the former ukrainian general, Valery Zaluzhny received a bribe he was paid 53 million to stay out of ukrainian politics that claim is false. As we understand it. And a claim in the sense of discredit you. What do you think is happening here . I think russias Intelligence Services or are really panicking and theyre trying to enter new territory. Theyre actually using people that they consider to be effective enemies of the regime of their own. This Information Game and try to leverage the trust in such figures being journalists or Opposition Figure first, and put words in their mouth so that they never said, in this case, they used meta actually click make allegation against those illusionary that he is corrupt, which has never been made but it did get traction. A lot of people, but you could call them useful idiots. You could call them people who ideologically aligned with the kremlin. They believed that if this is a video but if it looks like a bbc video, it must be true. Its completely fraudulent, is completely take similar the attacks on on yulia navalnaya. Theyre comprised of faked booking. Com, reservations. And again, because they are visual, because theyre posted a ssid there, a document, a piece of a document. A lot of people people who want to believe this nonsense are actually start spreading it. Christo, thank you very much thank sobering. And such important and crucial new reporting from cristo. All coming as russians, right now are voting in the countrys president ial election. And Matthew Chance is out front from moscow tonight in some areas, like annexed parts of ukraine, voting in this Russian Election has already begun. The outcome, say observers is inevitable. At the summer should see we didnt move nothing. Im just happy russia has accepted us, says this woman in donetsk, and i love everyone who votes for putin. She says, the. Kremlin leader has barely campaigned for his fifth term in what observers say is the most vacuous, empty Russian Election in memory go up by war go movie, who Teens Campaign ads, simply asked voters who they trust. At 6 according to latest opinion polls, say its him. I was sudden death in jail last month. Of Alexey Navalny, the kremlins most prominent critic has left the russian opposition in despair. So if Alexey Navalny was on the ballot, voted for, of course. But now but now, maybe i write this name politicians voicing even mild dissent from the kremlin, like boris nadezhdin, you wanted to stand on an antiwar platform, has been denied registration, has candidates of, course, officially, theres a choice like voting for the Communist Party candidates, lickel, i had a torn off and his vision, which view russian share . Return to, a, glorious socialist past but youre going to live could be this this Leonard Apologizing for this . This is a our population. What do you think youre standing against . You dont think youre going to be better. Why would you stand against it . For me no. Its necessary we check who participate in the election will just loved the one cof your prayers participation without criticism of putin. But hes what this entire Russian Election is. All a bag. Independent Election Observers described vladislav davankov, the loci final candidate as trying not to attract a Jew Attention Criticism in russian politics, it seems it has become a thing of the past. Will aaron tonight the russian authorities are warning against the tending any unsanctioned protests during the election period. This of course, amid opposition, calls for russians, they gather at a specific time at Voting Stations on sunday, the russian prosecutors something it says that anyone attending or taking part in unsanctioned gatherings will face criminal liability. A threat essentially to crack down at the first sign of any protests. Aaron, back to you. All right. Thanks so much to you, Matthew Chance and well see what happens so many brave people went to Alexey Navalnys funeral lining the streets. Well see what happens this weekend. Also new tonight, elon musk under fire on multiple fronts tonight, tesla shares now down 32 for the year. In fact, tesla is currently the worst performer in the s p 500 atop tesla investors says musk himself is to blame and its not the only crisis that hes facing right now. Fred pleitgen was with him today outfront it seemed like a major win for elon musk, his company spacex, managing to launch the worlds most powerful rocket called starship. Further than ever before, while losing both the ship and the Booster Rocket a test. But back on earth, elon musk is in Damage Control mode, visiting his Tesla Factory near berlin, germany after an arson attack claimed by an activist Group Opposed to the plant, knocked its power out for more than a week musk, unwilling to speak to the press, some reporters yelling questions, the refence near berlin, hundreds protesting during the electric Vehicle Production could seriously impact the entire areas. Drinking water supply test teslas production is in a Drinking Water Protection Area thats protester says, they therefore endanger peoples Drinking Water, not just here, but in this region and also in Berlin Bosque is facing backlash after reported work safety issues at Tesla Factories, the company rejecting such claims, saying Worker Health at its german plant is a top priority and the Company Stock taking a nosedive musk also regularly faces backlash for controversial posts and retweets on his social media platform, x woke ideology wants you to die this one says dei is just another word for racism. He writes here while another user claims democrats are trying to replace the us electorate by allowing migrants into the country must calls it crazy in a tweet, hate speech pressed on his views by former cnn host don lemon. And what was supposed to be Lemons New Show On X musk, thin skinned i dont have to answer questions from reporters. Don the only reason im doing this interview is because youre on the x platform and you asked for it otherwise, there would not do this interview so you dont think you do you think that you wouldnt get in trouble or you wouldnt be criticized for these things. Possibly i could care less the whole idea of x immediately asked its partnership with the show. Lemon says elon musks claims of being a champion of free speech called into question. Lemon told erin burnett, free speech is only important when someone you dont like or i would say someone who doesnt have your same Point Of View are someone if theyre allowed to speak freely and to say their Point Of View i apparently that doesnt matter to elon musk is just for pleitgen, cnn berlin and also tonight saying goodbye to the 40hour workweek. People perk up. Well, that is what Bernie Sanders, senator Bernie Sanders is proposing this. And in a very serious way, he now has a bill that would cut the standard workweek in the United States from 40 hours to 32 for the same amount of pay are numbers minor. Guru, you mine the numbers i, harry enten joins me now. All right, so harry, a lot of people hear this and they scoff and they say this is ridiculous. This is, you want to pay this people the same amount of money to work less. And when you work less, you get less and everything starts to fall down youve looked at the numbers where this has been tried. What happened . Yeah. There was a Great Global Experiment that was done a few years ago on the 32 hour workweek, four day workweek. And you know what happened to the companies that did it. The revenue actually went up. The revenue went up significantly when up 38 and employers rated Employee Production Activity on nine out of ten. So the fact is in these companies that tried it, it actually worked out pretty gosh darn well, erin, thats a Pretty Amazing ive been reading some of the studies about it. I mean, the reasons why people having other things in their lives and being able to be all in at work when theyre there. That average American Worker works more than many european workers just on the average week, how does us workweek those stack up around the world . Yeah, this is interesting, right . We . Like to compare ourselves for, lets say, the united kingdom, or lets say other european countries, like france and you say, okay, france and the uk, on average, 29, 29 hours per week. This includes fulltime and parttime workers. But if you look at the us 35 but israel in south korea actually work more than the United States do. So, yes, if we compare ourselves to the europeans, we work a lot more. But if you compare ourselves to other industrialized countries like those in the middle east or those in the far east. In fact, we actually works slightly blasts. So well Bernie Sanders, bill pass you know what . I dont know if it will probably not, but i will say among the american public, its actually something thats quite popular. The idea of a fourday workweek. Oh, im sure it is quite popular. But its not just two thirds of overall. Its well more than twothirds of democrats, but even a majority of republicans support a fourday workweek so you have those republicans in the senate scuffing out them. But there are people that constituents are actually, you know what, this could work out pretty decent for us. All right, pairing. Thank you very much. Thank you. And thanks so much to all of you as always, ac30 60 starts now