Trumps relationship with the National Enquirer was even sleazy or than it looked into the lead starts right now former Tabloid Publisher david pecker, under oath on the record revealing just how far donald trump wins, allegedly to protect his 2016 president ial campaign. But when it comes to whether trump committed a felony in the process how damaging was todays testimony. And that infamous meeting in august 2015, what packer said went down in that room that could hurt Donald Trumps case nearly nine years later, plus trumps legal team admonished in court today, scolded by the judge over social media posts by the former president that prosecutors say violated a gag order coming up the tough decision for the judge deciding how to punish trump welcome to the leaf im jake tapper. Were going to start with our Law And Justice lead a dramatic day of testimony in the new york hush money coverup trial. Tabloid mobile. David pecker testified in front of his longtime friend, donald trump, revealing details about there shall we call it symbiotic relationship and the extent of the trump teams say, over the popular National Enquirer tabloid, including weighing in on running negative stories about trumps political opponents. Now, refresh your memory of how deep in the tank the National Enquirer was for trump in 2016, the editors were not only buying negative stories about trump in order to not run them, to bury them, to hide them from the public. But heres a look at some of those covers over the National Enquirer during the campaign. Hillary, six months to live, blared the tabloid nine years ago hilary going to jail and one that. Said corrupt on the stand today, david pecker also revealed how at a meeting in 2015, former President Trump and his attorney and fixer Michael Cohen, asked pecker how he could quote, help the Campaign Pecker testified he agreed to be the eyes and ears of the campaign and would notify Michael Cohen if he ever heard of any womens selling any stories about trump than he would act to buy those stories and then kill them to benefit the trump campaign. He testified Michael Coleman would also call pecker an ask be enquirer to run negative stories about trumps opponents, such as marco rubio or ted cruz. Heres one of the ridiculous ted cruz smears on a cover shown in court today from may 2016 ted cruz, father linked to Jfk Assassination exclamation point. Now obviously, this is deranged nonsense, but we should know this story came out in may 2016 when packer testified ted cruz was gaining popularity during the republican primaries. Another sleazy baseless hit piece against ted cruz, cruises five secret mistresses not true vial, unfair to cruise horrible to his wife, horrific to their two daughters unfair to those five wimp becker also testified about the first time he ever paid to kill a story about donald trump. It was apparently November 2015 and pecker had former National Enquirer editor and chief dylan howard pay 30,000 to a doorman who was selling and apparently false story about donald trump allegedly father and his son with someone not his wife. Pecker said that the story turned out to be 1,000 false. But quote, i made the decision to purchase the story because because of the potential embarrassment and would have been to the campaign and to mr. Trump pecker testified about a second catch and kill deal, this time involving 1998 playmate of the year, Karen Mcdougal and the ten month romance. She alleges she had with mr. Trump packer testified today that when donald trump heard that her story might come out, trump told packer, quote anytime you do anything like this it always gets out. Okay . Who knows what donald trump was thinking when mr. Pecker testified all of this in court today, when the National Enquirer endorse trump back in 2016, trump, after all, returned the favor ive always said, why didnt the National Enquirer get the Pulitzer Prize for edwards and o j simpson and all of these things i think maybe we got an idea today why the National Enquirer hasnt been awarded any policy prizes. Cnns Kara Scannell was in court for all this. Kara, how attentive . Word jurors, as all of this sleeves was displayed before them jake, it was a very short Court Session today. David pecker was on the and for just over two hours. And during his testimony, the jurors appear to be paying close attention. You could see when pecker was testifying, he often looked at the jury box when he was answering some of the questions. And you could see the jurors eyes following him back to the prosecutor, who would then ask the followup question. A bit like a tennis match for their heads going back and forth. We also saw there was some evidence introduced today, some emails. This agreement, the that was painted trumps the doorman at trump tower that came into evidence and you can see the jurors looking down at the monitors. They all have a monitor that shows what the email is thats being displayed to the courtroom and also to them individually. So we saw a lot of them looking down, paying attention to the exhibits that were being entered into evidence today, but could see some people were pretty engaged, paying attention following the testimony and following the backandforth between the questions. Its hard to imagine them not paying attention. It was rather riveting kara courts out tomorrow. But it sounds as though david pecker will be back on the stand thursday after all, they didnt get to the the big crescendo here, the Stormy Daniels lets catch and kill. What should we expect on thursday right . I mean, today, david pecker with setting this up, explaining what prosecutors say was this key august 2015 meeting where this alleged conspiracy was hatched between trump, Michael Cohen, and david pecker. So when he is back on this in on thursday, he will then begin to describe the Karen Mcdougal deal we got just the beginning of this today where they learned about her allegation of a romantic relationship with trump, and theyre figuring out what to do with it. When he left us 20 today was that he was being called frequently by a by Michael Cohen who wanted to know where things stood. So that will pick up on thursday, understanding how this deal ended up being one of these caching kills were ami paid 150,000 start to go away and then shifting into the Stormy Daniels payment that is at the heart of this case. And what that transfer and how am i found out about it and how it ultimately led to Michael Cohen being the one to pay the 130,000 that then prosecutor Peter Say Trump reimbursed in width so that well get to the key elements of this case when pecker is back on the stand on thursday. All right. Kara scannell outside the courthouse in manhattan. Thanks so much for joining us. Sounded discuss is jeremy saland, a former prosecutor with manhattan District Attorney, as well as Trial Attorney misty marris. Welcome to both you, jeremy, let me start with you because the prosecution argued today, quote, the entire case is predicated on the idea that there was a conspiracy to influence the election in 2016. In your view . How helpful has peckers testimony been to this central argument of a conspiracy, even though they havent charged anyone with conspiracy well, i think you can say Josh Steinglass in the prosecutors that a fabulous job. They ask the right questions and they got the right answers. Youve heard from so many different pieces here you hear about the ban and you hear about going to signal which is an app to cover up buck communications, not being uncertain phones. You hear about why there isnt a formal agreement between donald trump and david pecker. You understand that things were being run by Michael Cohen to confirm that the story should be run or shouldnt be run, youve got all well the foundational pieces, the bricks, if you will to build this foundation and were only in the beginning, but he did a fabulous job, yet to be crossexamined, but were moving in the right direction. If were the prosecution, misty notably, david pecker testified that trump was cautious and frugal in his handling of money, so much so that he personally reviewed invoices and signed checks. He called him. I think he called the meticulous and your experience is that enough to prove to the jury that trump had to have been aware of any falsified Business Records and the idea that theyre paying Michael Cohen to reimburse him for these Hush Money Payments as opposed to just filing off money for a retainer . Yeah. This is a really important part of the prosecutions case. Remember, the defense called the 34, they call the 34 pieces of paper as far as the falsification of the Business Records its very, very critical for donald trump to be aware of those false vacation of Business Records. And then the second piece is in furtherance of another crime, which in this case is. Likely to be a violation of new york election law. And thats why this conspiracy, this aspect of the meeting of the minds between pecker cohen and trump is central to the prosecutions case. Now the flip side is that we anticipate donald trump argued theres lots of reasons to kill stories about affairs could have to do with reputation, could have to do with his wife but date picker testified today that this was directly related to the election. So to your point, jake, the his awareness of all of these circumstances and Donald Trumps participation and being involved in the process is central to what the prosecution needs to prove. Jeremy david pecker said he tried to keep his agreement with trumps secret tests defining quote, i told him were going to try to help the campaign and to do that, i want to keep this as quiet as possible. Thats what pecker says. He said then a prosecutor had pecker confirm that the positive stories about trump were of Mutual Benefit . But stopping stories from being printed about trump, catching and killing stories that would have sold on the newsstand, but he killed them like Karen Mcdougal only benefitted the campaign and did not benefit the National Enquirer. Explain why that clarification was necessary because who the winner out of all this, when we look at the intent and what the purpose and goal is, you have to see, well, why are we doing this . And thats a big question. The jurys going to ask and youre going to get some of that direct evidence. But it also doesnt take a Leap Of Faith to say, well, Michael Cohens not benefiting. What is he necessarily getting directly david pecker now clears up that other piece. Were not getting in any extra money. Were not getting extra oversight. A. Pardon me, more publicity for our articles. Hr actually losing that publicity. So who is the person whos winning here, who has the motive, who has the intent. Thats donald trump. And with all of these bricks, as i mentioned before, its putting it together and its creating that foundation and doing it very, very well at all points to one person while trump key bona, right . Who benefits as jeremy mentioned, pecker says Michael Cohen suggested they switch to talk on signal rather than on a landline or a regular cell phone explain why thats significant yes. Signal is notorious for being private messages. Theres the types of Methods Judges that wouldnt necessarily be found if there were two b. Discovery. And so that the air of using signal is something that could be a bit more nefarious. And thats why its really a big part of the case that not only are these communications happening, theyre having these discussions about the stories that are being planted and also being removed from the enquirer. But theyre doing it in a secretive way. Now that leads to that old issue of intent, mens riaa, why is it secret . Well, its secret because its in furtherance of another crime and Jeremy David Pecker would even testified, to even test started today, quote when we were preparing an article for the National Enquirer, wed communicate what we were doing at the direction of the article from Michael Cohen we would also send him the pdfs the visuals of the story. Before it was published, Unquote Pecker added cohen had been former role in Trumps Campaign and quoting injected himself into the campaign, but often called pecker and urged him to run negative stories about trumps opponents. And we saw them against cruz, against rubio, against hillary. What do you make of cohens role here . Well, we also heard from a pardon me, from pecker that Michael Cohen said the boss is pleased or something to that effect, something going along those lines he was the gobetween. He was almost a de facto person for the campaign. If you believe the prosecution story and as it comes out, that really manipulated the press via via the enquirer to either as we said, kill the bad stories or promote the, promote the sois that adversely impacting them, meaning something about, for example, rubio. So hes a central piece here and its Helping Lift UpMichael Cohen before Michael Cohen testifies, its corroborating Michael Cohen before it has to be solely on Michael Cohen shoulder. And thats why again, peckers doing a terrific job for the prosecution and messy. Theres also this moment where theyre talking about the story that the doorman was alleging, which apparently was false. But he had a story and pecker said he was just going to hold it. And then if it turned out to be true, he would run it after the election. Why is that significant . This is one of the most significant point its, its all about tying this back. This, these actions back specifically to the election because the prosecution has to show the furtherance of another crime, presumably violation of election laws, Campaign Finance laws. They have to eliminate that defense of i would kill the story for any other reason just because im a highprofile theyll person when its directly tied to the Election Planting of stories against political opponents is different than killing a story about your personal life. Clearly that shows motivation related to the election and jake, thats why this story, if its true, im going to run it after the election is so key because it means that thats the purpose of the catch and kill plan. All right. Misty and jeremy stay with me prosecutors spent a lot of time today question and gave it back for about a 2015 meeting at trump tower what pecker says happened that day and its significance in this case, plus the Heated Exchange between the judge and trumps lawyers when questions come came up about in cell insults that trump posted on social media the white house correspondents dinner, Live Saturday at seven eastern khan, cnne, sarlin, never easy the star name, eight months pregnant. Thats a different story. With the chest inke cart, we got up and running in no time earn unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase chase ink business unlimited car from chase for visits all new subway routes are packed with delicious ingredients in a pillar, well advice, wrap family or refreshing lunch to Taster Murphy for pro athletes like me, right . Get off, finish by one wrap, get one 50 up in a subway app to date our biggest Challenge Uncertainty hidden fees, surcharges who knows what to expect . 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If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with ms ophelie oma call us now were back with our Law And Justice lead and quote, youre losing all credibility with the core unquote. Thats what judge juan merchan told trump attorney todd blanche earlier today in their hearing, got heated at times by his question was over whether donald trump repeatedly violated the gag order in the Hush Money Case, plants tried to explain why his client posted insults of the jury, insults of witnesses, despite being told not to having a Gag Order Instructing him not to and the judge was not having it. Prosecutors argue that trump violated the order ten different times on truth social, and campaign posts teen april 10 and april 17. They want trump find 1,000 for each alleged violation. Lets bring back our panel. Jeremy, lets start with that exchange that that drew judge merchans iyer with trumps legal team its about this particular exchanges about this truth social post from april 17, where trump appears to quote something that fox host Jesse Watters said on his show about attempts to stack the jury with liberals and liberal activists line to the judge in order to get on the jury. No evidence of that merchan one after todd blanche, the attorney, because trumps post was it not even a direct quote of what waters had said rashawn ask your client manipulated what was said and put it in quotes. Am i right . Todd blanche replied, i wouldnt use the word manipulation, your honore, but the rest of the quote was not part of the quote or shawns point is at trump, isnt merely reposting the views of other people. Hes writing out original thoughts, how damaging was this all do you think . Yeah. I mean, first was it a Defense Attorney and the prosecutor. Sometimes you have to think on your feet, so thats obviously what blanche was trying to do in part but it is really really right here as a lawyer, you do not want to hear the judge say you lack credibility. Thats devastating. Really when you look at this so im looking down, he added words about liberal activists in order to get on the trump jury. And thats something not accurate and its really devastating, not to the trump wall. It is devastating for trump inside the courtroom, but its differentiate the two. You have the person who is innocent until Proven Guilty inside, and you have the person outside who is folded all sorts of hot rhetoric that so damaging to the criminal Justice System at all. He can do no matter what selfishly he wants to dismantle the criminal Justice System for his own gain. And it puts judge merchan and a very difficult situation because no matter what he does arguably, donald trump wins and use this to his advantage because donald trump is not going into custody after the trial concluded for the day misty trump came out and railed against the gag order lets take a listen to part of that totally unconstitutional. Im not allowed to talk, but people have to talk about me. So they can talk about me. They can say whatever they want, they can live but im not allowed to say that you sent to sit back and look at my conflicted, judge, its brought me to have a gable. I dont think anybody whos interested so you know, i dont think you need to be told this, but plenty of defendants get put under gag order and criminal trials. And things he said there were not accurate. Hes allowed to hes allowed to talk about the the the District Attorney is allowed to talk about the judge. Hes allowed to talk about the case hes just not allowed to personally insult witnesses or jurors, or members of the family of the District Attorney or the judge, or their staffs trump must know the facts here. Do you think his attorneys have just given up on trying to talk to him about this. Oh my gosh. Has a defense lawyer. Youre definitely speaking to the client every single day. Please be careful. Public statements, anything youd stay out there can come back to bite you but look the judge was very specific and making a narrowly tailored gag order and that was to toe the line to say that, yeah, you can criticize the process. You can criticize me. You can criticize the da, but what you cant do, is go after jury hurs and witnesses, and thats really a tenant of the criminal Justice System that those individuals need to be protected. And thats an order for the whole process and the trial to be fair. So i think that his Defense Lawyers theyre probably giving him advice about what to say. There probably telling him not to go too far, willy, listen well, that remains to be seen and i think weve definitely seen him crossing the line with some of the comments that hes made, and i agree with jeremy. You dont want the judge saying to you as a lawyer that youre losing credibility with the court. Thats not a great thing to hear. And jeremy, obviously, Michael Cohen is out there going after trump to several of the alleged violence relations involve posts where trump is going after Michael Cohen, either directly or indirectly. One of the posts was a common trump made about different posts from Michael Have A Naughty which one after Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels and trump referred to the witnesses as Sleazebags Trump also repeatedly shared headlines that referred to cohen as a serial perjurer. And itd be fair Michael Cohen did concede that he misrepresented the facts he lied before congress on trumps behalf. We should note any served prison time in part because of that perjury. Do you see the posts going after Michael Cohen . On his violating the gag order and do you think that gang order is fair ill start in reverse here and i think the gag order is fair and it should be sort of not just for trump, although its not an issue for the prosecution, but it should be across the board. That case should be tried within the four corners of 100 centre street, not in the street, but in that building. And thats what needs to be done. So yes, i believe its fair. Is it crossing the line . I believe it is. It is crossing the line because we know how donald trump uses this to manipulate people. And even if its not his intention, its definitely recklessly dangerous because it exposes people to the reaction to those who really consume. When he says and then react to it the vary. Sometimes violent or aggressive, or agitating way it just unhealthy for the jury especially the jury, when you bring them in. But even from Michael Cohen and Michael Cohen, absolutely. As problems as a witness. Thats why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. But that doesnt give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. Let your Tuner Attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasnt rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. Yeah. I wasnt surprised because hes got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that violates at an also think about whats the penalty going to be to send a message but not go too far. So i think were having decision was what i wouldve expected. All right. Misty marris, jeremy saland. Thank you. So both you pecker described the tactics of quote, Checkbook Journalism and catch and kill. Just how often thats used and why its so specific to this case, thats next what is it about the titanic . 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And this cnn then were back with the Law And Justice lead zeroing in on that 25minute meeting at trump tower, detailed and testimony today by former tabloid mango nate david pecker, the meeting was an august 2015 about two months after trump came down that golden escalator at trump tower launching his 2016 president ial campaign. Now, pecker testified today that is meeting was with trump with trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen. He said, hope hicks came in and out of the room at the time and today, Pecker Testified Trump and Michael Cohen asked him, quote what his magazines could do to help the campaign. Magazines such as the National Enquirer. Pecker recalled saying hed quote run or publish positive stories about mr. Trump and published negative stories about his opponents on quote if he heard of womens selling stories about mr. Trump who he called an eligible bachelor, although he was married, pecker said that he would notify Michael Cohen and hed have the stories. In other magazines. Pecker also testified, quote, in a president ial campaign, i was the person that thought that there would be a lot of women who would come out to try to sell their stories because mr. Trump was wellknown, is the most eligible bachelor and dated the most beautiful women, unquote. Pecker also said, have you heard of women selling stories hed notified cohen hed had the stories killed. He said, i think it was a Mutual Benefit. It would help his campaign and it would also help me unquote the tactic discussed in that meeting. Its called catch and kill by somebody by the rights to a story. And instead of running it kill it. Its not illegal. Its not illegal at all. The practice of Buying Silence to squash an unfavorable story. But it did become central to the health of former President Trumps 2016 campaign, for example, just days before voters at the streets, the Wall Street Journal reported that enquirer, a parent thank company, a American Media incorporated run by david pecker paid 1998 play man or the year Karen Mcdougal, 150,000 for the rights to her story as david pecker put it today, the her story about a quote, romantic relationship with the republican president ial nominee donald trump and before Karen Mcdougal, david pecker acknowledged and other catch and kill story involving now disproven claim, a false claim by a doorman who was claiming that trump had fathered a child with a woman outside his marriage, that dorman was paid 30,000 pecker testified today he agreed to by the story which cohen replied, the boss will be very pleased. Its a story that becker are today said was 1,000 false all this is prosecutors are working their way toward the Stormy Daniels allegation at the center of the case . Joining us now to discuss kim masters, the editor at large at the hollywood reporter, kim, thanks for joining us. So youve been reporting on powerful people and their scandals and their attempts to hide and suppress those scandals for decades. What was your reaction watching pecker describe his quote, mutually beneficial relationship on quote, with a present as it canada it was really quite nausea aiding, i would say, as you as you mentioned, this is legal and so ridiculous lies are published to help a candidate that is not journalism. But theyve been doing it for years. I mean, this is something that arnold, Arnold Schwarzenegger availed himself of when he was running for governor. And nothing stops them. Becker called the practice of catch and kill, quote, Checkbook Journalism what do you make of that characterization well, it is what hes saying. You pay someone for their to silence them. Now, in my world of legitimate journalism people dont offer money like that generally what they do and mike and my stories that have been career threatening to a number of people in this industry and the entertainment world. They threatened to sue you and they get a lawyer to write a real helen brimstone letter that is outrageous, its false, its this is that now im just going to knock wood when i say we have always published, when weve received those letters. And so far no one has as suit us. Packer testified, quote, i told him trump, were going to try to help the campaign and to do that, i want to keep this as quiet as possible, unquote were just behind the scenes of how you imagine pecker may have run this operation to help trump and also keep it secret. He obviously said that there was no paper it was a gentlemans agreement yeah. Such great gentlemen. Its just tawdry stuff. I mean, he had to separate Email Accounts then at some point, i think Michael Cohen says, lets go to signal, which is an encrypted app dive certainly used to communicate with sources and delicate situations. And the whole thing is just its like a parade of sleaze. Whats though its being revealed here but these people have made a lot of money and obviously, i dont know that mcdougal expected her whatever she was she was going to write a column and i think she really thought that im just going to happen. But she did sit on that story. And then of course we get this Stormy Daniels and we know what happened there and what which will be the subject of testimony in the coming days. Now, you have direct experience with another powerful person who tried to squash years of allegations against him, Harvey Weinstein and youve said that you think both trump and weinstein fund fundamentally believed that people can be bought. Tell us more well, harvey managed to silence a lot of people of his victims. He he terrified them. He got them to sign nondisclosure agreements and he paid them what really is in the big world, a paltry amount of money certainly in hollywood but harvey did in my case, when i was pursuing that story over the course of 20 plus years, just intermittently trying to see if there was a way in he knew that he had it all sewn up and he was very arrogant and he felt that he he had said to me in plain language, theyll never get me that changed when his power started to diminish. But as that emerged harvey, suddenly, i was not the one doing the story at that time. It was the New York Times and ronan farrow for the new yorker. But i first, i had a fake reporter call me to talk about hollywood then it turned out later that that was a Harvey Emissary to see what was on my mind since he knew that i knew. And then he got in touch with me and he said he wanted to give me a book offer and i was a little why would he do that . I dont even think the Weinstein Company is really publishing books but kate was like, its perfect for you. Its great hi to my regret, somewhat, i cut him off before he could offer me a number because i really would like to know how much does he think my silence is worth. But in the aftermath, i realized what he wanted to stop me from doing is to go on television literally around the world, which i did australia, asia, europe talking about about what i knew about Harvey Weinstein. And that was if he had gotten me to sign up for some book deal, i wouldve been conflicted and i wouldnt have been able to do that. So that was the play and obviously it didnt work. Do your masters thanks so much really appreciate your time and insights. 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David pecker took The Stand For A Second Day of testimony and he spoke about how as a Tabloid Publisher, he would by store stories that were unflattering to trump and then he would kill them to make sure they didnt become public. That was the goal. Lets bring in cnns john king in jamie ganim, girl and jaime was today a bad day for donald trump he look, i cant read his mind, but he looked pretty miserable sitting up there david pecker is a friend of his. And this is not Michael Cohen. In fact, hes not a friend. Hes a good friend someone who helped him along the way you really have to wonder what the jurors were thinking because so much of the prosecutions campaign is this notion that this happened in service of winning the election and a lot of what we heard from david pecker today was a history of this, the context. This wasnt the first time. And there were stories we saw about going after marco rubio, going after ted cruz so you see the history of trump using this relationship. Yeah. Get rid of opponents. Yeah. And john, i mean, these guys have been buddies since the 80s came up together, you know, wealthy guys in new york symbiotic relationship, trumps old magazines and news vapors. And david pecker provided trump with very flattering headlines what do you make of today . Look any day youre sitting at the table and you are the defendant at a criminal trial is not a good day, whether your name is donald trump or john q. Public. Its a bad data. Be there, but to the point youre making here, just like in the january 6 testimony, wanted the things trump says out on the road and his rallies to his supporters and his emails as many, many Fundraising Appeals is that theyre out to get me joe bidens out to get me. Democrats are out to get me woke. Prosecutors are out to get me. And what happens when you actually have hearings, january 6 hearings or now a criminal trial, people who were velcroed pretty close to donald trump are the ones giving the damage testimony. Its friends of his people. He trusted people who helped him, people who said they wanted to help him, they wanted to help in this case, help get them elected president because david pecker thought would be beneficial to him. The big question is, does it break through . How is it covered in the conservative echoes ecospace where most trumps supporters get their news. Thats the challenge. Hes going forward. Does it break through in the Election Campaign . But from a legal standpoint, its just kind of slimy, right . Its just and john today was only de to of testimony from david pecker were going to have more, but we learned about this mutually beneficial relationship between trump and supermarket tabloids Michael Cohens contact with trump, trump increasing. I mean, not Michael Cohen. Michael cohens contact with david pecker and david pecker is contact with donald trump increasing once trump again running for President Trump was cautious and frugal with money. Pecker said so much so that he personally reviewed invoices and signs checks. He was meticulous. He said trump and cohen and pecker had this inperson august 2015 meeting where they agreed that pecker would be the eyes and ears of trumps 2016 campaign. Pecker would notify cohen if women selling negative stories about trump emerged with Pecker Woodpecker anticipated would happen. Cohen would then try to find a way to kill the story of a lot of damaging testimony from this friend of but both politically and legally politically. Again, if this breakthrough out there, the competition, the election is going to be decided by nikki haley voters, for example, or suburban swing voters, for example and just trumps relationship with a tabloid, buying these kind of stories. Thats not going to sell very well with them. So thatll be part of the competent petition. The suburbs legally, a couple of very important points theyre number one, trump was handson with the money. Trump often says if these payments are made, somebody was taking care of it. I didnt know about i didnt know about the specifics anyway, his friends saying he was hands out with the money. Its important plus the Trump Defense team is going to savage Michael Cohen his credibility through mr. Pecker today, prosecutor russian did get this on the record. How important Michael Cohen was, how trusted he was by donald trump back in the day. So they will savage him saying hes lost his credibility. But through pecker, the prosecution did a good job making sure the jury knows. Michael cohen and donald trump. They were like this when all this was playing out. All right, jim, again, gallon, john king. And for those listening on sirius xm, john king had his hands together, like they were like he was praying. 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And this is Cnn International lead protests against israel are now and theyre seventh day at new yorks Columbia University, the encampment clearly visible from helicopters above. And while these demonstrations are mostly peaceful mostly inside the campus, there has been some menacing antisemitic chance spewed by protesters and groups, mostly outside the campus. Heres an example. Take a listen so phrase for hamas, a Terrorist Group Phrase for all qassam, which is the military arm of the terrorist group. Can us saying they love hamas, saying that they want telaviv to be burned to the ground, saying they want Israeli Soldiers and Israeli Settlers to be murdered antisemitism, thats what that is. Full stop. Lets go to cnn shimon prokupecz, who is at a propalestinian rally at Columbia University right now, shimon, when talking with protesters the ones that claim to be peaceful, do any of them. When you ask if you ask deny what happened on october 7, hamas attack on israel today, support what happened on october 7 . What supporters of it called the alaqsa flood yeah. So its interesting, jake, because when you do try to talk k about antisemitism or the events of october 7, many of them will try to get back to what their here about. And thats their propalestine views. And the fact that they want the college to divest from their support of israel, but its not entirely clear what that means. And i think thats part of the frustration certainly for the university and trying to negotiate with them to bring some kind of resolution to this because it just does not seem that this is coming to an end. The point where outside the univsity and on almost on a daily basis will see a sll number of people gather outside the university chanting theres pport for palestine saying of calling for a ceasefire and theysually try to sta outside the gatesf the encampment of those really interestingly enough, the , university came out and said that what the students on the inside are doing in that regulaons. So now the question is, well, what will the university do . Theyre sayinghis is not allowedbut yet ere stl allowing it to continue Theast Timehey came out and said thisjake, they had the nypd come in and ear out e entire encampment. Well see if that happens again. Yeah. I believe they need that space with in kidman is they believe they need tt space for graduation, which is cong up shimon, columbia things appear to be as calm as protests can be but tell us about what happened downtown at nyu last night. Because there were more than 130 around . Yes yeah. It was significant, jake, because theyre also there wasnt any camp meant the school warned the students that they needed to move theyve brought tense. And again, what weve seen here, they had their tents out there at nyu with something very concerning happened college, theyre nyu said that things just got ouof control. They were starting to see acts of antsemitism, which really concerned them. And that the chanting just became too too aggressive. And also that outside factions, le that started Cong On To Camp E Grounds so they asked the nypd to move in and clear out the encampment. The other thing theyre jay quickly that happened was that there were faculty members. They nypd says that locked arms to try and prevent them from arresting the student that is certainly an escalation that we have not seen. So well see how things develop here tonight, here and at nyu, j, Trump Brooklyn as at Columbia University in new york. 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