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Meanwhile, those who need it most have little faith and lawmakers, i would say most likely than not going to do anything beacon past things with a drop of a dime. It afters on both sides of the party and you know, both parties agree there should be zero resistance and this should have been done yesterday. Instead of people fearing rather losing this one day. Jason carroll, cnn, eureka illinois breaking overnight arrests on College Campuses as propalestinian protests grow across the country. The only thing standing between the people well, gaza and a ceasefire is hamas. New comments from Secretary Of State Antony Blinken after israel proposed what he calls an extremely for narrowly generous ceasefire deal, the damage is unbelievable. What one governor is saying as deadly, severe storms the country. Sara is out, im john berman with kate bolduan. This is Cnn News Central this morning, College Graduations or right around the corner with propalestinian cantmiss set up on some of the very sites. Theyre supposed to take place. Hundreds of students and faculty have been arrested or detained and sometimes violent encounters with authorities in boston, about 100 new arrests at Northeastern University after police broke up an encampment there at ucla, police in riot gear intervened after protesters breached security barrier. George Washington University is beginning to see its encampment spill off campus onto the streets. Cnns Danny Freeman is in philadelphia. Danny, we can see the tents set up behind you at the University Of Pennsylvania. Tell us what youre seeing and how we got to this point. You bet john this is day five of the Encampment Protest here at the University Of Pennsylvania. And everything really has been mostly peaceful. So far, although i will say it was a bit of a tense weekend because on friday night, gypsum, just about 24 hours after the encampment was set up, the university called on it to be disbanded. And as you can see, some cabinet has only grown now, just to give you a flavor of what were looking at here, you can see their students here. Theyve just woken up there. Theres breakfast, it seems coffee in that area this to me were john started as maybe ten, maybe it doesnt encampments back on thursday now grown to quite a bit more than that here in the middle of the University Of Pennsylvania. Let me tell you what makes this particular protest a little bit more unique than some of the others. So there actually three universities represented here. Theres students from temple, students from drexel, students from of course, the University Of Pennsylvania. And then also there are other folks from the larger Philadelphia Community who have taken up camp here in this area as well. And initially the university so that they support the right for folks here on campus to protest and to share their voices. But then like i said, that changed from thursday into friday when the University Said that this kevin had blatant violations of university policies, they said that they had credible reports of harassing and intimidating conduct. And then also an incident of antisemitic graffiti that the University Said this investigating now as a hate crime. But as you can see right here, the demands of these protesters remain the same and they say theyre not going anywhere. They want the university to disclose a number of the companies that they may be invested in that have connections to israel and then divest from those particular companies and investments. The thing ill tell you, john also is that we understand from the protest youre see that they did have a chance to meet with some of the University Leadership over the weekend, the university confirming that as well, but so far, they have not been able to see. Id ivs in cabinets are still here and we understand overnight there have actually been more notice of Trespassing Signs that have been put up in this area of the University Of Pennsylvania saying that, you are in violation of both students regulations, university regulations, but also a philadelphia law. So as of now, things have been peaceful. John, make no mistake, but the tension between the university and these protesters at the moment a bit of a standstill. John all right. Danny freeman in philadelphia. Danny, keep us posted as to what you see. Thank you thats in pennsylvania and weve got police have Arrested Hundreds of protesters and students, including students, professors, and activists. Since these propalestinian protests have started and engulf so many College Campuses, some now questioning the tactics used by Law Enforcement in the face of all of this, cnns Josh Campbell has much more on this. Hes joining us. Josh. What is the criticism thats coming at the police right now on this . Yeah. Capable Law Enforcement has certainly been thrust into the middle of this, particularly because so many of these protests are taking place on private property. Theres no First Amendment right to protest on private property. And so when these universities say, hey, we want these people out of here, its the police who have to do that. Its the tactics, however, that weve seen in some circumstances instead of certainly drawn a lot of criticism, including one incident last week at Emory University involving a college professor. Take a look you look at that video at the start of that, what you see is this professor coming up towards a group of officers who were attempting to put someone in custody. Now, at that point, i think anyone who served in Law Enforcement will understand that for that officer to try to get her away from that situation, that would be justified, but its been taking her to the ground afterwards. That is obviously raised serious questions under the letter of the law but under the state of georgia, battery on a Police Officer or something as simple as touching them in a provoking way. But of course, in Law Enforcement, what departments look for is judgment. People who understand, but just because you can do something, is that the best course of action . Its worth pointing out that certainly since the 2020 protests that we saw across the country, ive heard from Law Enforcement people who said that one tactic theyre taking is understanding there are now hundreds of videos that are often being taken at these incidents. If they see someone who they think isnt committing a serious violation, they can go back to the tape and then try to get that person later rather than seeing this violent encounter that we saw there. I do want to show you one example of the right way to do this. We saw this the last week at the university of Southern California where you have protesters who were surrounding this vehicle, a protester was taken and put into a squad car that turns into this very volatile situation where its essentially its a standoff of sort if we have that video at some point, authorities ultimately determined that they were going to try to deescalate and you actually see them letting the individual out of the back of that squad car. Obviously, there was some kind of conversation that they had with this person. Interestingly, once that person steps out of the car, he then starts telling everyone else to step back, to push back and to get out of that area. And so you see that decision being made by the onscene commander to try to deescalate that situation. Question obviously, kate, were going to see more and more of these protests. Law enforcement will certainly be under the microscope as far as how they respond. Certainly a lot of the actions raising a lot of questions, obviously there are so many other encounters that have happened as well where authorities are being asked to get people out of private property. Certainly a very volatile situation absolutely. Thank you, josh, really appreciate it. Come up for us. The Campus Protests have also increased pressure on the Biden Administration, how the white house is now responding to all of this. And the second week begins of Donald Trumps hush money trial. 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What can we expect this . Well, you werent you were like primetime last week, yeah. So listen, we have some fun. I dont know if thats the right word. You can help me better and better vocabulary 19, elements to this case, right . We have performed present republican nominee, we have a tabloid titan, we have an adult film star, but really at the heart of this case is what you just said, that 34 counts of Falsifying Business its records and thats what prosecutors are. Now just starting to get into. Is that paper trail. So they said it was going to be dense with paperwork thats going to have to be shown to jurors, and thats what were seeing with this last witness. I was just on the stand and hes a banker that Michael Cohen used to set up those Shell Companies to first pay off Karen Mcdougal, of course, that transaction never happened, but then they showed during first basically how we set up another one. And that is to set the stage for paying off Stormy Daniels, of course, at the heart of this case. So thats where were at right now with this trial ended on friday with jurors hearing from gary farro, whos this banker. And were going to see just more sort of paperwork lined out. We saw the same thing prior to him, which was trumps longtime assistant at trump tower, where she was shot knowing how Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels were contacts in the trump organization, how she actually saw Stormy Daniels at trump tower, though the defense said she might have been there for casting for the apprentice. But yeah. So the next couple of days well see how much is documentheavy and then we might get into the big Blockbuster Witnesses again, like we saw with david pecker, we have Michael Cohen coming up, Stormy Daniels. So the next couple of weeks are certainly going to be busy theory. These are the documents that would corroborate what the prosecution hopes to get out of michael coe exactly. Right. Bringing grass great to see you and joining us right now to talk more about exactly this cnn senior legal analyst and former assistant us attorney for the Southern District of new york. Elie honig. Elie start we start me up this week and setting the stage, if you will. I mean, how has the ks gone so far for the de how would how would you feel if you were back at the Prosecutors Table okay. If i was back at the Prosecutors Table, i would feel completely satisfied with the way this case is started out. Look, youre not going to win the case in the first week. What you want to do is set the foundation for the jury and looking back now, okay. Theyve got three witnesses in. Things seem to be moving fairly efficiently, and theyve given the jury the following. First of all, the jury now understands catching kill the seedy underbelly of the national enquirer, trump pecker, ami thats important for the rest of the case. Theyve also now established a groundwork to get him in the trump organizations business documents. That was the second witness, rhona graff, who was a long time justin to trump. And now with the bank and theyre getting into the actual chars, the actual falsification of business records. So this is all you can ask for as a prosecutor after the first week of trial, thats going efficiently and smoothly and youre getting in your main points that the jury is going to need later on. Lets talk about that banker and just one second, but when youre talking about main points for coming from Prosecutors Table, what are the best points that trumps defense team has made so far yes. So theyre picking their battles thus far. They havent gone after all three witnesses. They havent had a chance yet to cross examine the baker, but theyve established a couple of important points first of all, they use david pecker To Cast Doubt on Michael Cohen. They got david pecker to say that Michael Cohen is prone to exaggeration. And then when rhona graff came up, they used her on crossexamination, not to suggest she some kind of liar or anything, but rather to humanize donald trump. They got her to talk about how he was a decent the boss and a man who she liked and admired. So i think what the defense is doing is theyre laying back in there waiting theyre really saving their fire here from Michael Cohen then on the banker thats going to be taking the stand, that brin and john were talking about. How important is his testimony. Do you think to the das case . So hes the least dramatic witness so far, but i also think hes the most relevant to the actual charges because the crime itself goes to the way in which donald trump and Michael Cohen structure the payments to Stormy Daniels, the allegation is that they falsified business records. Both of them together around those payoffs. And this is the banker for who worked with Michael Cohen to help Michael Cohen free up 130,000. He ended up drawing down on his mortgage in order to pay Stormy Daniels. So thats sort of half of the transaction. The other half is trump than reimbursing Michael Cohen. So this is sort of, i guess dry banking stuff, but sometimes its also the most important stuff that you have to make sure jury really under stands and also, i guess its just a weight a weight waiting game right now still, as everyone waits to see when and how and what the judge is going to say about the multiple violations that donald trump has made of the gag order. Why do you think . The judge does it does this seem like its delayed in hearing from the judge . Like why why do you think the judge hasnt ruled yet i have given up trying to figure out when and why this judge is going to rule. I thought he was going to roll right away. 30 should rule right away. Look, judge merchan has done a very good job of Keeping Control of his courtroom and keeping things moving efficiently. And this is sort of an inexplicable laps, i think by him to me, theres no reason to hold off. I mean, heres the status quo we had an initial batch of 11 alleged violations. The judge held a hearing on that early last week, and now weve got a second batch of for more where hes Holding Hearing next week end, he hasnt ruled on any of them and trump continues to violate the gag order, although we did cool off a bit this weekend, so maybe hes getting tired of it or maybe he doesnt want to have any more of these gag order hearings, but look it as a fact, theres not a lot the judge can do the judge is not going to lock up donald trump, certainly not right now. He can only find them 1,000 per incident, but like we both have kids, like if you wait to enforce discipline theyre not going to get the point at all. Theyre going to run rampant. So you have to enforce discipline even if you have limited tools. I think it has to be swift and it has to be certain. So i dont know what the judge is waiting for. I dont know when were going to hear and i think its a misstep its good to see you, ali. Thank you very much. Thanks. Good. Im not for us. The Arizona Republican party doubling down now on support for one of the people indicted for being part of the fake electors scheme. In that state, the new job that he just got with the rnc and more storms are in the forecast, more states are in danger where Severe Weather is threatening today and after a widespread and Tornado Outbreak cut a huge trail of destruction over the weekend so this playoff great teammates trust each other. Were gonna do a trust balls, stand up, trust. 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So go into the rnc yeah, john, this is the latest example of the Republican National committee. Really embracing these individuals at the state level who helped tried to overturn the 2020 president ial election in these key swing states, arizona, georgia, nevada, michigan, individuals that are still very active in republican politics today. And jake hoffman is a good example. Somebody who served as a fake elector in arizona, as you mentioned, hes been indicted as part of this alleged conspiracy to not only overturn the Election Results there in 2020, but also in those other key swing states, he met. Remember he sent a letter to then Vice President mike pence on january 5, 2021, asking him to delay the certification of the 20 2020 Election Results, which was another key part of this indictment, that names him along with the other ten fake electors from arizona and seven other people from inside trumps orbit, people who are really close to trump and have been really close to trump since the beginning of his presidency, almost five years ago now that they couldnt mark meadows is former chief of staff, Rudy Giuliani is former personal attorney. Jenna ellis his former campaign attorney, john eastman, mike roman, boris epshteyn, and another person whos actually gotten a political promotion of sorts. And the time since christina bobb, you might remember that name christina bobb. Shes a former oan anchor, host, tv personality, but she was also one of the key people pushing these Election Fraud claims, including an arizona shes indicted alongside jake hoffman and was recently appointed as the lead counsel for Election Integrity at the rnc. So again, the rnc, the national the national party, the Republican National party, really hugging some of these people please key players from the bid to overturn the 2020 election. And its hard to not notice the parallels between what donald trump himself, even though hes not indicted in arizona, what hes been saying about these investigations and these indictments related to the 2020 election. Im going to read jake hoffmans statement after he was indicted, it sounds a lot like what weve heard about Trump Hoffman wrote, let me be unequivocal. I am innocent of any crime. I will vigorously defend myself. And i look forward to the de when i am vindicated of this disgusting political persecution by the judicial process. And then almost the same time, the arizona gop release a statement calling the indictment a blatant and abreast and unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial power aimed solely at distracting the public. So you can obviously see the parallels there between what were seeing at the state level in the wake of these other, since ive been in arizona. And what trump has been saying at a National Level since the first charge came down almost a yearandahalf ago. Yeah. Look, the employment of either party since a clear message doesnt is that cone great to see you . Thank you very much. So taylor swifts says she is overwhelmed and mind blown as her new album breaks multiple records within its first week of release in breaking this morning, a new deals on the table for a ceasefire of rumen and gaza, according to us officials, israels proposal as quote, extraordinarily generous every weekday morning, cnn five things has what you need to get going with your day. 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Well talk to the people behind the Trending Stories ive got a lot of questions. Your assignment with body cornish. Listen wherever you get your podcasts im breaking news this morning, Secretary Of State tony blinken now says, israel has presented hamas with a quote extraordinarily generous proposal for a ceasefire he is in his back, in the middle east right now trying to push those negotiations forward to get hostages released as they are still being held captive by hamas in gaza. This assessment from blinken comes after our call sunday between President Biden and israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which President Biden also was focused in on those hostile doj and ceasefire talks. Lets get over the white house. Cnns arlette scientists much more for us, our what are you hearing about all of this okay. President biden and israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spent just under an hour on the phone yesterday and a source familiar with the call said that the majority of the conversation did focus on those Hostage Negotiation so you really have heard us officials speaking in a bit of an optimistic tone in recent days, a senior us official just days ago said that they do believe there is an avenue for a deal and this morning, while he was in saudi arabia, Secretary Of State Antony Blinken said that israel has offered a very generous proposal and said that the owner this now is on hamas to agree to this. Now, hamas officials are currently in cairo where they are meeting with the egyptian and qatari mediator to talk through a potential deal as sources have told our colleagues in the region that it could potentially lead to the release of as many as 33 hostages in exchange for a weekslong a ceasefire. But theres still, of course, is much more work to be done now, hamas in recent days has offered to proof of life videos for two of the living americans who are believed to be still held, held hostage by hamas. So there is a real real optimism that something could potentially come together. Now at the same time, the president then also use that phone call to make clear his position when it comes to a potential israeli operation in rafah, us officials have been warning for quite some time now that israel must go to Great Lengths to try to protect and move them the more than 1 million civilians who are currently in rafah, the us has been offering their counsel and advice to israel as they are considering this operation. But the president did bring that up in his phone call yesterday with a white house readout saying that he made clear his position, but officials did tell us that the majority of that phone call was about Hostage Negotiations since they are quite eager to get these five americans and the other hostages out of gaza as soon as possible. And arlette related to this, i know the white house has been facing continued pressure to respond or to take a stance on the protests that have the propalestinian protests that have engulfed campus it says all across the country, what is the white house saying about this yeah. The white house is really want a very assign and delegate line when it comes to responding to these protests, youve heard us officials here at the white house really condemn antisymmetric rhetoric that has emerged around some of the protests. But theyve also been trying to stress that these protests must remain peaceful. Take listen to what john kirby had to say just yesterday but and im told now, we dont have that sound, but it also comes at a time where President Biden is facing enormous political pressure as well when it comes to his handling of this war between israel and hamas you take a look at recent polling from cnn. It found that 71 of voters disapproved of the president s handling of this conflict. Thats an even greater number of disapproval when you look at what young voters think 81 disapprove of his its handling. Thats among those who are 35 and younger. So it comes at a time where youre seeing these very active protests on these College Campuses while theres a lot of discontent and to also about the way that President Biden has handled this conflict arlette at the white house and see what comes from there today. Thank you very much. As 20 blinken continues his trip and released related all this absolute and look, you were just talking about the protests around the country. There are tents set up on campuses, right where many of these universities are planning to hold Graph Education Ceremonies within days. Could this force more schools to cancel commencements Cnns Rafael Romo has the latest at University Campuses across nation heated protests and some violent clashes between police and propalestinian protesters, are what i saw was unprovoked and severe brutality exacted by police on some campuses fastest the protests popped up universities, cold police to shut them down by removing demonstrators. A move that has been harshly criticized, and not only by those protesting the real problem here is that the administration called the atlanta police, the university of Southern California has canceled its main Commencement Ceremony one, citing new Safety Measures in place. Dozens were arrested thursday at Emory University and a planter including martin berg, the third year law students whose expected to graduate in three weeks says their protest was peaceful until the Police Showed up. Nothing was disrupted and anyone saying that campus was disrupted doesnt understand what a campus is. A campus is a place for open expression and exchange of ideas. And thats exactly what folks were doing there but some jewish students say that the last few months since hamas attacked israel on october 7, in israel began its assault on hamas in gaza. They have been subjected to a hostile environment. I believe everyone has a right to protest the problem is when it becomes threatening, like holding up signs that say june whos there nazis and things of that sort is not at all peaceful. All theres like theres first Year Law School students say tensions within the student body have made it very difficult not only to learn, but to attend school altogether when these people are chanting excuse my language in unison, zionists on the quad lawn of Emory University. And i have to stand by and hear that. And were told that we dont belong on campus because we dont identify with their movement to me that says that they dont want to have a dialogue as schools get ready for graduation here under intense pressure to bring the situation under control and many students say thats also what they want. It is in our best interest to reach an agreement before commencement because we want students and families to be able to celebrate this milestone together on this campus. The volatile situation has also become a political issue with leaders such as Texas Governor greg abbott, Blasting Protesters Students joining in hatefilled antisemitic protests that any Public College or university in texas should be expelled here he said on x, i truly do think that dialogue is the only way we as a society are going to be able to come together to truly create lasting peace but in an environment where the rhetoric is so loud, the few voices calling for peace are getting drowned out rafael romo, cnn atlanta all right, i want to bring in neil mega. He the editor in chief and president of the Brown Daily Herald. First of all, ye journalism. Thank you for what youre doing at college on that front here easily here is breeding period right now a brand. But whats your understanding of the situation on campus this morning . Sure. Well, thanks for having me. Today is day six of the Encampment Protest at Brown University and the protesters are showing no signs of stopping. Theyre very determined whats interesting about brown is that this question of divestment has been going on for quite some time. Its not just in response to the encampments taking place across the country. In fact, in 2020 and Advisory Committee at the university advise the president Two Divesting endowment from roughly a Dozen Companies with ties to israel that it identified. And the president said no. And argued that the endowment shouldnt be used to take stances on what she characterized as contentious geopolitical issues. So as a result of that decision, theres quite a bit of activism in 2020 so this Encampment Protests taking place now is really a continuation of protests that have been taken taking place over the past three or four years. Its not shutting anything down. I mean, i happen to know so be related to someone who took a tour of the campus . Not we could go right. So right now is reading period like you said, at brown, which is a week before finals, where students dont have classes for the most part. So yeah, nothing is shutting down some classes and Review Sessions are still going and the universitys functions are still going on. What is the communication between the university and the people who are protesting . So recently the university issued letters to protesters that are at the encampment. The university issued some charges from its student conduct office, and its saying that the protesters have until 5 00 p. M. Today to voluntarily accept some these charges. Or therell be subject to a further hearing where charges might be more severe. Are they willing to eat these charges if two . Voice their opinions . So its unclear at this point, and theres so many protesters. But charges are not unusual for protests like these in the past in december, there were two sets of sit in style protests at the universitys main administrative building on campus in total, 61 students were, in fact arrested at those protests for trespassing after calling on the university to divest in commencement, which is still several weeks away. What happens if these the process are still going on during commencement . So its also unclear whats going to happen by commencement, but where the University Commencement typically takes place is in fact where the encampment is taking place right now in terms of the level of rhetoric right now, have there been incidents of antisemitism and violence . So there havent been any reports that brown of discrimination or antisemitism coming out of this encampment what do you think will happen and what are you looking for most closely the next days and weeks. So as this as 5 00 p. M. Deadline approaches for students, what are reporters that the Brown Daily Herald are trying to do is understand whether this is going to deter Prep Protesters or whether theyre going to push forward protesters at brown have shown a great deal of resilience to threats of arrests and conduct charges in the past. So were very curious to see whats going to happen next slide, you have reporters, they are working the scene, stay with neal. Thanks so much for being with us. I appreciate thanks for having me a new luck with new cnn polling at the president ial race this morning. What voters are saying about Donald Trumps advantage over joe biden nationally . And the issue that now stands as a 70 problem for President Biden. And the moment and nba coach is taken out by his own player during an nba hey, playoff game will be back when the jinx came out. 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If you compare that to your question about movement to where we had this race in january. Its basically the same than it was 49 for donald trump, 45 for joe biden. That difference for biden there, its well within the margin of error, so that is statistically the same racial looking at and kate, quite frankly its been the same for the last eight months that weve been pulling this race in terms of our National Surveys, this is pretty much what it is look like. A, a slight lead for donald trump for over the last eight months my point of absence maybe making the Heart Grow Fonder for some, the view of success or failure, or how, how voters are viewing the success or failure of the two presidencies, if you will, what do you see there . Yeah there is no doubt that width some time between Donald Trumps administration and now his administration has grown rosier in the eyes of americans. Look here, 55 of americans in this poll say that trumps presidency was a success. Thats almost a complete reversal of where trump was on that question. When he actually left Office Nearly four years ago, threeandahalf years ago joe biden, though, you see a completely different assessment by those polled here, 39 called trumps bidens presidency, currently a success, 61 call it a failure, and kate, i just want to show you his overall Approval Rating for the president right now. Its at 40 approval 60 disapproval. This has just been a stubbornly consistently low Approval Rating for joe biden as he is now closing in on the final six months of this quest for a second term, there is no doubt that everyone in the body Biden Campaign in the white house would like to see this number move up a bit as voters start zoning in on their decisions. One factor in this Approval Rating and basically any assessment of the current president is often linked to the economy. It appears this time as well. I mean, how are voters feeling about the economy . Because rosier data is coming out . Theres no doubt, but as you know, americans dont assess the economy through the Economic Indicators and data that we all report on constantly. They assess it or how they feel about 34 currently approved of bidens handling of the economy. So significantly lower than his overall job approval, six 66 disapprove. And when you ask how is the economy going today . Whats your rating of it . 30 , 30 of americans say its good 70 of americans say its poor. I just want to note here that if the economy is overwhelmingly the most important issue for voters, this is not insignificant. And so while there are a ton of other issues that we discussed and even issues that the president performs worse on the israel hamas war, immigration, the economy is still front and center for people. So this is something youre going to hear biden talk about day in and day out to try to boost those numbers up as well. Absolutely. Its great to see you, david. Thank you so much for jumping on this morning, short john. Thank with us now, formal Communications Director for the Trump Administration, mike dub key also, democratic strategist and former white house aide to president and bill clinton. Keith boink and keith, let me start with you. You see these numbers as a democrat who i presume wants to see President Biden get reelected where would you advise them to do the work to turn it around . Well i think that the numbers dont necessarily indicate how people will show up at the polls. We know that early polls are not predictive. We also know that the Abortion Issue really hurts republicans and thats an issue the democrats will be hammering from now until november in addition, we dont know the impact of trauma im strauss, his first trial just began just last week. We dont know whats going to come out of that if hes convicted, what happens with other trials, if he happens to have another trial before the fall election, thats a big issue. The big advantage of democrats, two big advantages the democrats have. One is the popular vote. Democrats have won the popular vote and seven, the last eight president ial elections theres no indication that they wont win the popular vote in this election. The Electoral College still skews unfairly toward the republicans, but the other issue is fundraising. Democrats have outraised republicans and fundraising both the president ial level at the party level. And in addition, they have made enormous advise going into the fall campaign. Theyve saturated the market and closed up the opportunities for donald trump and republicans liked you buy that to the democrats. Have donald trump right where they want them no, i dont buy that at all first of all, on the popular vote versus the electoral vote the rules of the game are set and its a statebystate contest. And so while these National Polls probably are heartwarming for the Trump Campaign, more importantly, when you look state by state, youre seeing advantages to the Trump Campaign. The other, the other issue here that david pointed out as the economy farmville, James Carville years ago famously said its the economy stupid and hes, hes absolutely correct. Most likely in 2024. And when you have high mortgage rates, you have the cost of gas up, you have the cost of eggs up, you have the cost of milk that is rising. These are all problems for the Biden Administration that they really dont have a lot of control over and the economic factors worldwide that are driving these costs are something that theyre going to have to contend with and most likely no matter how much money they have to spend and how much of a cash advantage they have it will be very difficult to roll against that tide. Youre shaking your head, keith he had because the economy is not bidens week as argument, maybe weve got 15 million new jobs created. The Biden Administration more than any other firstterm of any administration, including donald trump who lost jobs by the way, we have 3. 8 unemployment, the lowest black Unemployment Rate in history, inflation is going down just by what were hearing from the other side. Inflation is going down and people, people have to understand, i guess the republicans, donald trump does a great job of marketing promotion, but it doesnt have any record. Hes running a Substance Free campaign. Whats Donald Trumps solution for the economy . Whats the solution for the for, for inflation, which is solution for health care and wage increases. Whats his solution for any of these issues . The media, i think have to own up to our responsibility to we have to start asking substantive questions and not just ask all these horserace question. Is donald trump is running this substance for your campaign because were not asking him the questions about what are his policy . Seat position is. People dont seem to be paying attention to that because he doesnt have any policy positions. So mike, what do you think Donald Trumps plan is to fight inflation for first of all, im gonna say im gonna go back to this when, when a campaign and i had to deal with this and the Trump Administration when you start looking at yourself and saying, well, were just not explain its a communications problem. Were not explaining ourselves. So the media is not doing their job good enough. The numbers that cnn put out today, 72, 30 when asked how americans feel about the, about the economy and the Biden Administration that isnt a Communications Issue thats a gut feeling. And thats really where this campaign is coming down to. So as the incumbent the Biden Administration has to explain to the American People why they deserve another four years. Thats always the case but keith but keith, does he does race the question. He answered my question is, whats trumps position on inflation . Whats trumps strategy . Whats he going to do well, this is, this is exactly what this is. This is why no, no, no, no. What im saying is this is exactly at this is why the Biden Administration needs to come out of the gate and explain it . Im not here to represent the Trump Campaign or to give you an explanation what im here to do, i think is to give you a little bit of sense of where these poll numbers and as a political professional give you a little sense of where if i was running a campaign, i would continue to push and as the Trump Administration, i would continue to talk about the Current Administration and rely less on and rely less on some of the other topics when the vast majority of americans are concerned about the economy. And when you ask the American People again to the cnn numbers, which way when looking at the economy would you vote and trump wins 62 to 30 over, over joe biden uses worthy. It isnt. This is where this is going to be fought. Do this is why americans hate politics because were talking about strategy, were not talking about any policy. I ask, what is trumps position on any of these Policy Issues . I have yet to hear an answer. And if from donald trump, the republican party, or from anyone else, because no one seems to be talking about this. All he does this talk about nonsense issues and diversionary ucs and talk about his and talk about how hes a victim get them in his grieving campaign. Its a festive. His campaign is not a serious policy campaign and republicans know that thats the reason why he couldnt come up with the answer when you and im john asked him what is only on these question it mike is not here to represent the Trump Campaign, to be clear, but i am curious. Do you think the Trump Campaign make does have an articulated plan on inflation i do think that they will as we get into the debate and about the debates and whether or not theyre going to happen. I dont know that they need to i dont need i dont know this. Six months out from the from the election and all these poll numbers are going to fluctuate and change. We are far out from the actual voting on november 5, i dont know if it is really even responsible for them right now to be talking about what their plans are, rather than putting a focus on the values of the Biden Administration. But as we get closer to the election, and we get into the president ial debates. This is where joe biden can directly Ask Donald Trump on that debate stage, what are your policies and thats the time to have this when the American People are fully paying attention. But as of right now the pull numbers do not look good for the president and his reelection keith 30 seconds. It was donald trump wasnt president United States for four years and has spent the past four, three or four years campaigning for president again, youre telling me we have to wait until october, november, where we find out what his position is on on what is going to do about unemployment, what hes gonna do about health care . What hes gonna do about education, student loan debt, what hes going to do about Affordable Housing or criminal Justice Reform or climate change. What hes gonna do about inflation, you dont have any answers for that. We just have to wait until october, november, and trust you and trust republicans. Thats preposterous. This is why im so fed up with the way we cover these campaigns, because its not substantive, its all about the horse races its all about Donald Trumps trials. Lets talk about policy. The reason why joe biden isnt doing as well is because we dont talk about policy especially that when it comes donald trump, were just talking about donald trump, the character. And that is problematic with the way we cover this and the way the Political Campaign painters