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Is the easiest way to read do sugar how wed really happy with jesse l. Martin, sundays at nine on cnn this is cnn breaking news welcome to the lean. Im jake tapper and we are following the breaking news at College Campuses across the United States protests against the war in gaza, the Idf Activity In Gaza are up, universities are cracking down many schools bringing in Law Enforcement officials to curve the demonstrations which the students insist are peaceful so as a factual matter, they have at times been disruptive, some have been antisemitic. Cnns ed lavendera is watching all of this unfold on one particular campus, university of texas, austin were texas state police. Im moved in on protesters earlier, made some arrests and what is the latest there now hey, jake was the camp just moments ago . Hi, has essentially been cleared out of all of the protesters are letter photographer kind of stepping here through the crowd and kind of get a shot of what is left there were dozens of protesters heres inside this circle that has been cordoned off by state troopers, ut police, as well as austin police. And over the last two hours, jake we have seen several dozen people taken into custody. We dont have an exact number on the amount of people who have been arrested, but ut officials in a statement saying a short while ago over the weekend, they started receiving threats from the group, which they did not specify from that was organizing the protest here on the ut campus they also said that they believed that the majority of the people who have been taken into custody here at these protests are not students, but regardless, it has garnered a great deal of attention on the campus, on the south of texas. Campus where now that the protesters have been cleared out of what they had described as a yep liberated zone. Now the question becomes, what do the officers do now because theres a relatively large group of people who have been supporting the protesters in circling the officers who werent circling the encampment. So the question now becomes what happens to this particular area . How do they clear out Everyone Else was still here University City officials have been clear over the last week that they were not going to tolerate anybody trying to set up a capsule inside of this area. So look in sorry about that you see a number of tents and the protesters were able to set up going to camp camp areas, as they said that they were not going to tolerate any kind of longterm in camp me hear any of the protesters you are believed protesters who were here. Were doing a peacefully simply sitting on the grass on this lawn and didnt deserve to be arrested. But that is the tension that were seeing unfold im have seen unfold here this afternoon for several hours. Now jake. Thanks so much. Appreciate 11 darien austin, Cnns Omar Jimenez is at Columbia University, thousands of miles away in manhattan. Demonstrators had been given by the College Administration can a deadline of 2 00 p. M. Eastern to clear out their tents and encampments omar, it appears that the majority of protesters ignored that deadline. So whats happening at columbia right now . Yeah number of those protesters and students chose not to adhere to that 2 00 p. M. Deadline to clear the encampment or face suspension. You can see the you cant get behind me. Theres a good number of students in there right now and actually, you can see a good number of them seem to be sitting in a circle at the moment as right now as they do at times, either Sharing Discussions or things like that. But bottom line there are still folks inside the encampment that said we have not seen any direct action from the University Just yet as far as even suspensions that had been announced or anything further than that. But to give you an idea of earlier today, essentially in this track space for this walkway here students and protests of that deadline in circles the in camera and essentially to protect those from coming into the encampment and potentially either suspend the students in person or make them sign an agreement saying they would adhere to University Policies. That of course has died down. But we also saw Faculty Link Arms at the entrance of the encampment as well. So that is, this is where the encampment actually is. But i want to show you it has not just been propalestinian support, your rib obviously seen many of these posters here posted up. Of course it bring him bring them home now, in reference to the hostages, the israeli hostages held in gaza, many of them, and then of course on the other portions of grass leading into this other library here, weve had israeli flags planted here as well. So youve seen a number of even jewish students who have come and almost counterprotest protested here saying that they deserve to be on campus as much as those who are propalestinian protests in here as well. And those have been the dynamics that weve seen. But the bottom line here, jake is, while we do, here are some protests its happening outside the gates of the university, right now, inside right here, there is an air of calm, but we do expect an update from University Officials this afternoon and it remains to be seen, the number of suspensions they may levy or any further action they actually take after, again, imposing that 2 00 p. M. Deadline, omar jimenez on the campus of Columbia University and barnard college. Thanks so much joining us now a professor from columbia business school, robert ban tempo, hes an expert in negotiation. Professor brown typo helped me out in understanding negotiation on this one topic that you administration of columbia trying to negotiate with the Student Protesters on friday . The president of columbia Minouche Shafik released a statement that said in part quote, we have our demands. They have theres and i heard from other folks in the world of University Authorities that were surprised by that statement. Do you think as an expert in negotiation that president shafik gave away leveraged by suggesting basically that the university and the students are on some sort of equal playing field. Well, thats certainly a reasonable perspective its important to keep in mind that president shafik is an experienced the international diplomat. And in the early stages of this movement i think she brought from her own historical background in mediation approach, trying to create a dialogue and let all the voices be heard i think imagining that she could reach a resolution that would be satisfactory to all parties. But the breadth of this movement i think has taken us all by surprise. And shes now embroidering in a negotiation which is a very different process now, its about proposals, counter demands, and frankly power now its a very different game. Yeah, i understand. And appreciate being an international diplomat. I just also wonder if foreign administer for an administration trying to balance Freedom Of Speech with also allowing the other students. It seems like a majority of them who just want to learn and go to classes and live their lives that the Smaller Group that freespeech group in this simplification has been given more opportunity, more power than the other group with that approach of diplomacy as opposed to, a College President , its not a diplomatic College President s and authoritarian really well. Again, thats a judgment call, but the part of your comments is we can undo the past and its easy to criticize when youre not in the room. But i think looking back a Negotiation Approach would have been the right move, not a mediation hearing. Peoples voices. There was no opportunity for persuasion here. Shes facing a series of stakeholders that have multiple, conflicting and sometimes not overlapping demands the correct strategy is what shes doing now. Who are the Key Stakeholders i have to Pay Attention to . Who can i appease and how can i thread the needle and come . Come to a solution that will achieve our longterm goals. Now, her credit, shes been very, very clear right from the start clarifying her core values, safety, the students on campus is non negotiable Freedom Of Speech is a core aspect of the mission of columbia. And its only when those two come into conflict as youve been pointing out, that she faces a real dilemma. But whats happening now is a little bit of a slow motion train wreck where the administration came out some days ago arrest about 100 folks, then they backed paneled and promised not to use the police anymore. As of this morning, theyve threatened to bring the police onto campus and clear out the tense and that kind of inconsistency in her position. I think is creating an unhealthy atmosphere among all the parties what about the the that are crossed when it comes to the free speech, rights of somebody to Say Something abhorrence, like i support the october 7 attacks on civilians and israel and the people who died committing those atrocities are Freedom Fighters protected by the first amendment. Ive heard that said, at columbia, not just outside at columbia but theres also the right of students who dont think killing civilians just because there is really and or jewish is okay, are acceptable. What does a University President at a private university do . Well, jake, youve already had free experts and lawyers dive into that. The devils in those details were all in favor of free speech until somebody says something we dont like my personal conviction is the best way to fight a bad ideas with a better idea. And the best way to overcome bad speech is more speech. So i stand as a freespeech absolutist, but i certainly agree with you that calls to violence and incitement. There has to be aligned. And she gets paid the big bucks to find out where that line is. And im going to defer to the lawyers and the experts on helping her back that up. My role as a negotiation from the Negotiation Perspective is how she going to get out of this very difficult problem. And what she needs to do is find who are the Key Stakeholders. And lets not lose sight of these are very high sticks. There are many millions of dollars riding on these decisions donations from alumni, the Economic Impact of usc canceling their graduation airfare, hotels, restaurants, these are very significant financial costs and any Negotiation Analysis has to include both the institutional cost as well as the personal cost. Lets not lose sight of the fact that in 1968, a former president of columbia, grayson kirk lost his job because he called the police onto campus to deal with demonstrators in that case, it was against the vietnam war. So theres a very rich legacy here, and this is all on her shoulders. Riverbanks, apa, thank you so much, really appreciate your time today coming up. Were going to continue to stay on top of all these protests across the United States. Im going to be joined im by a former University President to get his take on the demonstrations, reaction to the cancel that university of Southern California graduation and whether he thinks other schools should do the same this situation with wolf blitzer didnt knighted six once cnn see idp disrupts cid derails lets be honest socks but living to see idp doesnt have to. When you sign up at shining through cid p. 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I want to bring in seen in Senior National security analysts, juliette kayyem, of juliette, we saw numerous arrests at the university of texas, austin is that an appropriate response to you based on what the students are accused of doing, which i suppose is these encampments that violate rules i think it is. I never think its the good first approach, especially on colleges and universities where there is, there is often tolerance for protest. So these arent the first protests. So you want colleges and universities to be consistent where there were no allegations of violence, at least at that stage, and where most currently the use of Law Enforcement without any ability to essentially provide off ramps, figure out whether things can be d escalated leads to the kind of conflict we have seen, leads to more people being energized, which is not great for the college or university. And i think significantly, as youre seeing pain leads to other stakeholders like these faculties, not not loving this and voting you know, doing these votes against the president. So theres an appropriate role for Law Enforcement in particular, access control. I cannot believe how long its taken for these colleges and universities to get serious about who is on their campuses and the swipe cards we do them all the time where i teach. Why colin state police over local police or Campus Police . So a variety of reasons in some of these instances, Campus Police are not authorized to make arrest. They are simply crowd control parties, making sure theres not disruption. So some of it is actually lead eagle that this the state police have authority on it. But but once again, state police are not trained for this kind of interaction. And i think weve seen some of the errors, right . They are told you enter this, it will they only, they only have one tool to end it, which is to arrest everyone i think what youre seeing actually jake is sort of a Learning Process over this week where there, there are attempts to deescalate. There are attempts to isolate and to put them, put these protests in perspective and then at some stage if necessary, utilized Public Safety i think its important that all students feel safe. I dont think graduations ought to be canceled these are manageable safety and security incidents if the universitys get smart about access, about about off ramps ratchet it up, and then ultimately outcomes for these students, including not getting their diplomas, not graduating academic penalties. This matters to these students and honestly it matters to their parents. All right. Julia cam. Thank you so much. Appreciate it joining us now, frederick lawrence, former president of brandeis university, i want to get your reaction to these protests theres a lot of passion on campus. People want the war in gaza to end understandably, theres a lot of civilians being killed. Theres also a lot of rhetoric that crosses a line from critical of israel to blaming jewish students to saying israel shouldnt exists, to saying jews should go back to poland and on and on and on where does it, where does it become the responsibility of a university to weigh in on the speech itself . What makes this hard is that to core issues are coming into conflict with each other on the one hand free expression, free inquiry, academic freedom. This is absolutely fundamental to the institution. Safety of the students, of the whole environment is also important, but thats instrumental to that fundamental mission. So you have to start with the presumption that were going to protect expression. Were going to protect speech where there are actual threats, obviously that cant go where theres actual interference of the operation of the university that can be precluded. But a fair level of discomfort of unpleasant things being said that can be addressed by the university in other ways, but not through punishment and not through discipline. So what im i mean, you say that but there was a student at columbia who had said that he didnt think zionists had a right to live, right . And he was, i think asked to leave the campaigns success to leave the campus. But you know, thats a good example of a case where he said something and then walked it back substantially. These are young people who are going to say lots of things, some of which are way beyond what they even think theyre saying. Further reflection they want to step it back. Got it . I remember the purpose of a university is educates not the discipline. Its not to punish if youve got an actual threat been made, then it makes sense for Campus Security to step in or in a situation where they cant for Law Enforcement to step in thats last resort stuff and i think were getting to that way too soon. So i know i have good friends who have a child at columbia and that child is jewish, feels vaguely friend, but more important to that childs educational experts parents is he cant study. Its so loud its so noisy. There are people blocking his way to class. There are people pounding on drums at night. I am not saying that that is worse than whats going on in gaza. Okay. These are completely the separate issues and bragg ways, but that student has a right to an education and hes not able to get one. Yeah. The technical legal term is time place, and manner regulations. But what that means in this context is regulations can be set up that allows for the orderly running of the university if people are actually blocking buildings, you cant get in, you cant get out. They cant be permitted to do that. But if there demonstrating front of the building so that its unpleasant to walk through that, that unfortunately is the price of living in a free society. Well, heres the other thing. Were covering these protests and recovering free speech versus security on campus, recovering anti semitic behavior and language this is taking room from my show that i would normally be spending covering what is going on in gaza or what is going on with the International Criminal court talking about maybe bringing charges, right . We were talking about the Ceasefire Deal and getting this. So i dont know that the protestors just on it from a Media Perspective are accomplishing what they want to accomplish. Because im actually covering the issue and the pain of the palestinians and the pain of the israelis, not that theyre protesting for that, less because of this. Well, and by the way, some of the protesters are protesting for further release of the hostages and for the pain. But smart, not nothing, nothing numbers that were seeing quite right . Quite right the faculty be doing it differently and better. I wonder they could certainly be doing differently and better. But you could say that about Student Protesters have every generation, theres no question within that Student Protesters during the late 60s and a lot of reference to that is made recently, took a lot of Media Coverage away from coverage of vietnam war. I think what most of those students i got Richard Nixon elected and reelected. Well, yes. Yes, they did. And ultimately, the war did wind down Cause And Effect way too complicated it to do with this, could they do be doing this differently better absolutely. But these are also young people who are passionate about what theyre saying i think the responsibility for a lot of whats happening. We start with the grownups and look at how theyre handling some of these. Well, speaking of the gromit thats grownups, obviously there are some for some professors who are playing questionable roles here and there. But i have heard from a few, a couple of universities that neither of which im affiliated with personally, that theyre worried about the role of outside groups of ngos, of groups that are explicitly antiisrael or support abortive of hamas, et cetera. I dont know if thats a red herring. I dont know if thats a desire to blame someone else more so than the students and the faculty. But what do you make of that . I think thats a real concern and it is hard to tell how much the concern with outside agitators has always been used as a reason to break up demonstrations. So i start with here, what the outside agitators, i hear it in the voice of a southern sheriff talking about civil rights act. And maybe that was intentional on my part. Thats right. So there is a certain skepticism that comes with that, but there are also ways of controlling for that. So those schools, for example, that have done a kind of arrest and then you show your student id and your released immediately. You cant show a student an id and then you are arrested. Thats not a bad way of doing it. Those campuses that are already fenced off and you need to pass key or swipe key to get through. Thats not a bad way to do it. So campuses are not wrong to be concerned about this. But i havent seen a lot of evidence that the overwhelming problem here is outside agitator theres a last quick question for you the columbia right now is saying to these kids after they violated the 2 00 p. M. Curfew, they had to remove their encampments. You risk being suspended or maybe even expelled. Is that a good way to approach it or band . Never think backing students into a corner is a good way of approaching it. You never refer to the students in the third person. Its never the students. They its never the faculty. They its way. Theres only one entity in the university its way its hard, of course, its hard. Passions are really high. But this is when its important to focus on that. All right. Frederick lawrence, former University President. Thanks so much as these protests unfold on campuses around the country coasttocoast to the United States President Biden just got his lowest Approval Rating yet for his handling of the israelhamas war, can he turn things around with young voters . Were going to discuss that next lets maybe an effect of these protests right now as we see live and stay with us they slept on me for 15 years. Things i collected pollen, dust, dander all that time. They could have protected me. Mallorys mattress protectors. 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And this is cnn were back with the breaking news tense protests on us College Campuses, new arrest today, breaking just moments ago, columbia University Officials announced they have started the process of suspending students who ignored todays 2 00 p. M. Deadline to leave the encampment on campus and agree to follow University Policies hes all of this threatening to have an impact on the 2024 election. Lets bring in my Political Panel to discuss alex as we watch these, these protests unfold across campuses in the President Biden just got his worst, his lowest Approval Rating ever for his handling of the israelhamas war in gaza are cnn poll shows 71 and percent of registered voters disapproved 28 approve obviously, this is a big issue and really bad for the president when it comes to support among young voters, minority voters democrats how did the sea fix this, if possible . I mean, its really a no win situation. I mean, its very easy to sort of Monday Morning quarterback and be well, if he was just more propalestine than this would all be fixed. But theres no data that shows that thats true. Ill go to the suburbs exactly if he goes completely against israel and propalestine, youre going to have a whole, another set of issues with the middle of the country. So its really one of those issues that has basically split the party exactly in half. And theres no easy answer. And kate, are cnn poll also shows biden is actually 11 Percentage Points behind trump among young voters, 18 to 34 behind trump young voters 18 to 34. Weve seen i mean, you know, before you call this an outlier, we have seen similar results. In other polls. I know the polls are all over map here and there, but i dont think it can be disputed that he needs to do better with younger voters, then hes doing right now. Sure. And i think the way to think about polls and certainly the way president ial campaigns think about polls is we take the information and you determine what are the action items. What does this information tell us about where we need to go . And so this pole tells us things that we have seen another polls that joe biden is not as strong with young voters as he was in 2020. So it gives the Biden Campaign a roadmap. I think there are a couple of things here. One to alexs point, obviously, this is not a simple issue. This is not one where an immediate pivot, one way or the other is going to change hearts and minds. This is an issue on which there are incorrect credibly passionate emotional feelings on both sides but lets think about what the alternative to joe biden is. The alternative to joe biden in this race is donald trump, who is saying things like the idf should go in and finish the problem in gaza. So if youre a young person who is motivated by this issue then you can look at what joe bidens doing. You can look at the alternative and donald trump. You can look at the alternative of not voting. But in many ways, thats effectively a vote for donald trump. I think the Biden Campaign has to really make that case, but remember there are also numerous other issues that are going to be on peoples minds, including on young peoples minds like abortion for example. Campbell, i think the number of single issue voters, even young voters on this issue, is not going to be as significant as perhaps it feels right now in this moment where tensions are so high when you look at these protests, these images, when you see the controversies about the ones that have an antisemitic elements and on and honore just, just like what youre seeing side of your screen right now, do you think to yourself beyond the issue beyond being a human, just to be a political operative for one second. Wow, this is a real inkind contribution. The donald trump well look i think its a great vulnerability for the president. I mean, he came in to this administration talking about stability and showing the country as united again and when you look at these images, whether its in texas or new york city, all across the country you dont see that anymore. And its based in hes really being pulled as weve talked here by his bag his and i think going back to your poll and i know this isnt a single issue debate, but the fact of the matter is 55 of registered voters, registered voters showed an approval of the Trump Presidency with only 39 approving of the biden presidency in which most telling and those numbers, it was 92 of republicans were favorable to trump only 73 than to biden. Hes got a base problem. Its not just the youth, its not just minority voters. Its all across the board in these types of issues are really tough as an incumbent to tackle with those numbers certainly showings a headwind to them. Youre disagreeing well, again, i think its a roadmap. Right. I mean, thats what a poll tells you. It tells you provides you information, you make decisions. Then as a campaign about how to move forward. But i think lets also look at the polls that have come out over the last month. Weve seen Battleground Polls that show biden making gains on trump. Weve seen that pulls tightening particularly as trump has been in court over the last month. Now, i guess so. I think across the board, one pole . Yes, provides Important Information sen. Does not tell give you the full picture of all of the issues that are going to be important in the election and to your point, the Biden Campaign knows they have a base problem. If you look, its not like theyre not doing doing anything about it. You look at what biden has been doing and where theyre spending money the last two months. Its not focusing on converting independence. Its about those base voters. Hes done two events with Bernie Sanders justin month. He didnt event with aoc. Theyre running ads targeting especially black men and pennsylvania. So they know it. The question is, can they get there i would say while bidens been doing that trump has kind of been advocating a path toward getting some of these voters in the middle too. I mean, hes really, youve seen him as hes used the platform of talk, speaking to cameras outside the courthouse lets hes doubling down and tripling down on the ways in which hes been wronged and how this is a witch hunt. Did i mean, this is absolutely a message tailored to his maga base, not really a message tailored to a general election audience. Although i will say as you and i have discussed in the past, he has gotten a tinge more disciplined about talking about the stock market and talking about the economy when he has these courthouse press conference, its not a press conference. Courthouse speeches, a ton more discipline, certainly over the last eight years, and look when you looked again at the cnn poll, which i think is really is illuminates whats happened in the Battleground States. Yeah, theres been some tightening, some, but across the board, Real Clear Politics ticks trumps still leads on average, every one of the seven Battleground States in may of an election year. But going back to the cnn poll, i think its because of the economies 65 of respondents said the economy was extremely motivating to them. In that range, trump was leading that ballot, 62, 30 nationally. Thats a really tough place to climb out of for incumbent president. And if its a roadmap, they got to get to work quickly thanks to all of you. 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David to start why interview a gang leader and why someone like v v telam, innocent so we should point out, weve made three visits in the past few months. Jake and going down to haiti is as always, in a moment to really try to capture an essence of whats happening to this country. And its always different even over the course of just the past few months. But even on this show, we have shared the destruction thats been caused by the gangs, the many deaths weve interviewed the victims who have many of them lost loved ones. Theyve been raped, theyve been forced from their homes. To answer your question then, why speak to a ganglion . One thing, like it or not, you cannot deny is that the power right now rests in the hands of these gangs. Thats where the power dynamic is so important and crucial to look at. And if you see just at what even the un estimates in the portauprince alone, more than 80 of the capital city is controlled by gangs. So vita, no set thats the man who we decided to reach out to. And the reason we did is because of a few things. One is the territory that he controls. Its vast and its strategic and includes the us embassy. Also, hes said to have the largest number of gang members. Those numbers are constantly fluctuating but as of our meeting with him, he seems to have a strong number. And lastly, hes also one who has really not sought the limelight. Hes kept rather quiet in recent years. And so we wanted to know what his motivations were, what his life is like as hes making these very rash decisions at times. And also what can you see . Very aggressive moves. And we got a sense of just his environment. Tour in his territory. Take a look Security Experts suggest crossbar ea has more than 1,000 armed gang members, including recently escaped inmates you can see a lot of his armed soldiers and followers are around us and hes suggesting that we follow and drive with them he brings us to the edge of his territory. We notice his guards normally curious and watching us are instead looking outward cautiously toward another gangs territory. A reminder that the coalition of gangs might be more fragile than portrayed in the midst of our tour and disturbing video starts circulating on whatsapp. It reportedly shows that devastating and deadly aftermath of an allied gang attack on a community a few miles from where we are the destruction, the violence, the deaths that have played out. Do you take any responsibility for that . While she was on mosfet is on qtip lives reverb. He only says he made Mistake Aches and is not perfect. He blames politicians jake, i will point out a lot of folks will look at reporting like this and they worry that youre giving three up platform here and i would invite people to look at our full digitalwrite with my colleagues caitlin hu and Available Contreras and youll see really in the fall nuance of what this interview was all about and why we decided to pursue it. More than that, we have entire portfolio of work in recent months that shows what this country is going through and why these gangs have really a crude so much power in recent months. Absolutely. Looking in, interviewing quote unquote, bad guys is as part of the story, especially one as complicated as haiti what are these gangs demanding in order to bring calm to haiti its interesting when youre talking to him oneonone. I mean, for one, he almost comes across at times very zen and intentional and mindful in his words incredibly intelligent. And yet hes saying that he wants dialogue and a seat at the table for deciding haitis future. Now, when you look at the range of atrocities that gangs are accused of having committed, and weve met many of the victims of that. Its tough to see how theyre going to to be given that seat at the table that said given that they hold the power, it may be the only thing that through at least in conversation with folks who are at the decisionmaking level, would bring some sort of healing to haiti all in all though its going to probably write end out with them trying to get some sort of amnesty, which it does not seem realistic when you talk to some of the politicians who are looking to take more control in haiti because they feel like that would just empower these gangs even more. So its a very dicey but one thats directly related to this country gic. And im constantly reminding folks of that. I mean, a few days before we went into haiti for this most recent trip, i was down at the us Southern Border and met several groups from haiti fleeing that crisis, trying to enter the us. It just shows you how interconnected all of this it absolutely. David culver, thanks so much coming up. Testimony set to resume tomorrow in the trump hush money cover up corral, who might be the next Bombshell Witness called to testify that days that weve all here, you can expect to find Crystal Clear audio expensive display the space and more comfort for everyone but we still left room for all the unexpected things well find out here. The new in 2024 grand cherokee lineup, jeep. Theres only one during the jeep celebration event kit, the 2024 jeep grand cherokee, starting at 38,000 to nine 90 msrp visit cheap. Com for details its time yes. The time has come for a fresh approach to dog food. Every day. 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Karen mcdougal cnns brin in grass joins me from new york, brent what are you hearing from prosecutors about their plans for tomorrow . Yeah. Jake, so basically starting up tomorrow core is going to pick up where it left off on friday and that is with a witness, gary farro now he is the banker that michael oh, cowen worked with to set up those Shell Companies one of those was used to reimburse stormy daniels, of course, at the heart of this trust, Trump Hush Money Trial he also so was helped Michael Cohen get that Home Equity Line of credit in order to make that reimbursements and listen, this is a very documentheavy witness and prosecutors even said this is going to be a documentheavy case, right . Because at the heart of it, trump is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records. So thats what were starting to get into the key here though, is that its important for jurors to hear this, to hear these paper trails because its going to lay the groundwork for these witnesses that you just mentioned, that were coming off up in these trials, these big blockbuster witnesses, so that when prosecutors present their case, jurors can say, oh, yeah, i heard that before with that witness prior, so thats what were starting to see this week. But certainly its going to be a busy next couple of weeks as this trial really is just Getting Started the judge has set a second hearing. On trumps possible gag or gag order violations. He still hasnt ruled from the first one. Where do things stand and all that yeah yeah. The big question is, when because he going to rule on the first one every day thats really what everyone is sort of asking and its quite unclear. We dont know remember that has a ten to accusations by the Prosecutor Theaters that trump violated that gag order. We dont know if thats going to roll into this next Gag Order Hearing, which is on thursday. Thats per for additional violations that prosecutors say trump had most recently. So were waiting to see certainly that hearing happening on thursday. Trump has to be there. But we also every day air track checking to see its core opens up and the judge goes back to that original Gag Order Hearing that they had if he has made any decision on how, if anything, hes going two hold trump accountable for that. Jake range and graphs. Thanks so much coming up. Peter navarro just lost a longshot bid to get out of prison, will tell you why in which Supreme Court justice gave him the thumbs down next from friends coming over to moms coming over so many ways to save life ready while it happy. But 3605 by Whole Foods Market hey, there, brenda its carol exactly. So which like are we operating on . You mean arm its all connected, asking the right question, gan greatly impact your future. 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Referred the matter to the full court, who then turn down a procedural maneuver that had already been rejected by chief Justice John Roberts navarro, serving a fourmonth term in federal prison in florida for failing to respond to congressional subpoenas for documents and testimony about the january 6 assault on the Capitol Mysterious Roman Artifact is about to be displayed in public for the very first its time, Amateur Archaeologists and england found this 12sided object or dodecahedron last year. Historian say there are no references to the objects and roman literature or art and their best gases, gases that it was some form of religious or ritual object. The dodecahedron in question there are a about 130 of the ancient, these ancient objects known to exist in the world. 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