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The action this morning. Good morning we have this developing story right now, the Israeli Military seizing the Palestinian Sayyed of the raffa Border Crossing following a series of the airstrikes that killed at least 15 people source familiar with israels plans tells cnn the Raffa Operation is intended to keep the pressure up on hamas to agree to a cease fire. And Hostage Release Deal on israels Terms 20 Gaussians have been Heating Warnings to evacuate Eastern Raffa and in tel aviv thousands of israelis taking to the streets to demand the government reach a deal to return the remaining hostages is really negotiators are expected in cairo today to continue Ceasefire Negotiations that are on the verge. It seems of falling apart. Lets bring in former federal prosecutor, Eleia Williams farmer, rnc Communications Director doug hi and seniors. Cnn senior reporter, isaac dover all here with us. Good morning to all of you. Thank you so much for being here. Isaac. I want to start with you on President Biden, and lets really drill into the imperative around a cease fire for him and his administration because this of course, has been something that has rippled across campuses in this country. It has really divided the Democratic Party. And this is something the white house was grappling with all day yesterday as they tried to figure out exactly what whats going on among the parties here. Whats your understanding of how the white house is viewing where negotiation stand right now and the ways in which they are trying to get a cease fire here, as frankly the political imperatives ratchet up on him. A look you hit it there because theres the political imperatives and then theres whats actually going on im in the negotiations and part of the problem that the Biden Administration is facing here and the president is facing, is that it is clear that you dont have a completely honest and forthright broker in hamas to say the least. And theyre also dealing with maybe a situation where they dont have a completely honest relationship coming from benjamin 19 yahoo. And how biden who is from the beginning has said he is not looking at the politics of this. He is looking at this as how to get to a longterm solution on the immediate thing here and in his mind, hopes for something bigger. It is how hes approach approaching this. But look, the politics are there and it is something that is not showing up as something. So far that is as big of an issue for voters as some of the coverage of it has been. But it also maybe is reaching the point where it will be a discourse ill find political issue and its sort of thing where maybe people are saying of the economy is still their top issue. But they, they, when they think about israel and they think about the handling of israel are saying, well, actually cant be with by them and that may where things go. Do you think the administration are actually which probably frame this in terms of the Biden Campaign. Do you think the Biden Campaign believes that if this war is still going on in six months when voters go to the polls that it is significantly more likely they will lose its very hard to tell, right . And especially because of the terms of this election that they know are going to be a sort of reference in a month. Donald trump and all the other things that are gonna be going on there obviously would rather not be in this situation but again, i talked to ted kaufman who was so bad and she for staff for very long time all the way back in october about this right at the start. And he said, listen, nobody has had more years of experience going to them middle east into israel. And joe biden, nobody has sat through more topsecret briefings and he has he has a very clear view of what to happen here. He is. You see it, even when he said last week, when he was asked after his brief statement about the Campus Protests. Sure. Is any of this change your position you just said no, he knows where hes going on this but the politics are running into it it has been an issue that even among his advisers has been a constant topic of congress. Well, and of course the images coming up with the campuses here in the have complicated this for him. Donald trump has been in his Hush Money Trial for most of the beginning of this week. Anyway, but he did after the trial concluded for the day. I have this to say about protests on College Campuses. Watch hello me, just cancel the convention. That shouldnt happen. And it also came out rhoad gestures, many of the protesters are backed by biren shoulders. Okay. Are you listing is your listening, israel. Okoh, getting smart so doug hi how do you see what is playing out on these College Campuses and how it impacts . What were going to see in november because isaacs point and i hear this from biden sources to theyll say, well, this isnt a voting issue for people. Its not a top voting issue for people. But chaos in america tends to become a voting issue in a way that perhaps a were being fought abroad doesnt always know i was on the campus of the university of North Carolina at chapel hill. My alma mater on thursday, which had a flare up of some of these issues earlier in the week and walking on campus, i would not have known that anything had gone on previously. The campus was gorgeous and clean. Kids were playing soccer on milan and things like that. Its partially because our chancellor, lee roberts has done an extremely good job, were a lot of College Administrators of failed and what weve seen is so often, this is often the case in politics, the loudest voices dominate the conversation that shortly the case at columbia and george washington, harvard, and other places. But im also mindful of when we see protests like this. The overwhelming majority of students arent protesting or counter protesting. Theyre trying to get to class. Theyre trying to play some sports, probably trying to meet some codes and try and have the normal college experience. Do we still call them coed . I think so. Some of us are really old but they want to live that normal college experience. They want to have a graduation. And so when we talk about chaos, yes, this can reflect largely on on biden to some extent, if this goes on for months and months, but the students overwhelmingly are tired of the chaos they want to go to class, take their exams, and graduate yeah. I mean, eleia, we saw a little bit of that at the University Of Michigan. We played some from their commencement over the weekend where it was video yes. Of protesters tried i ended disrupt graduation. But what you can hear, were people yelling back at them . Hey, i just want to graduate right and im genuinely curious as to what percentage the video and i dont have the answers on this or not actually students number one and number two are grad students versus undergraduates. Now, of course if people are misbehave having and breaking the Wall No Matter who they are, it shouldnt matter. We talk about this on the program last week, but who is it that thats actually participating here . But to the point, yes, i think a lot of kids or adults, young adults wish to be going through their lives and attending classes and graduating and so on. And the great tragedy here, as with theirs senior year in college, they got disrupted by covid. Yeah, much of their experience is changing, but it doesnt change anybodys right unc one of the people who was arrested was at duke professor. Nothing is ever good. When do people come to unc, but its not just werent great piece of data, doug. 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What did we see yesterday in terms of how but fits into the case that clearly the final punches are still coming. Yeah, absolutely. I think prosecutors have laid out evidence in three areas. One, were payments made to were records falsified, and three, did they intend to commit a crime in the form of a campaign . Now over the course of last week, a lot of the evidence was about the camp painrelated issues, which is that to commit a Crime Portion of prosecutors have to establish that these payments were fault or records were falsified to cover up. This is the campaign. They also yesterday provided all the evidence or some evidence with respect to how the payments were actually made and recorded in the system. So evidenced its in varying forms. Is there the question now is tying it together and to what extent was donald trump aware of this entire quote, unquote scheme, at least is alleged by prosecutors as a matter of common sense, perhaps we can say, yeah, it looks like he probably was aware of the Trump Organization was run like a small family business. One of the witnesses says said that it defies reason to say that he didnt know that these payments are being made. But defying reason and being able to convict are two very different things. And it remains to be seen what further testimony comes that can help tie this together for the jury, and again, i say this every time im on work, two plus weeks into a four or fiveweek trial. There is a lot of testimonies still become and some will be up, some will be down for one side or another, but its hard at this stage to really have a great census or its going doug, hi, we have yet there are some of the likely most salacious witnesses still left to come to the stand and we had a lot of it with david pecker, but we have yet to hear from Stormy Daniels. And of course, Michael Cohen, i guess my question is is this breaking through in any real way, the trial . No. Think of how many bombshells weve had about mental trump that havent mattered. Access hollywood being the most prominent when that story hit on that friday afternoon, a lot of people thought the campaign was over. You can keep track of the days at that stage of the campaign was friday afternoon. Are very well and it wasnt over but it does come with a political impact. Trumps numbers are down a little bit, and justice Congressional Republicans want to stop talking about Marjorie Taylor greene fighting with some of our members. They also want to stop having donald trump be this part of the story. They want to focus on jobs and the economy. Certainly the border, those the issues that joe biden are they planning to you behind this yes. About the trial, was saying they just want to talk about anything else. And again, they have their own problems that they dont want to have to deal with as well with the infighting that were seeing this week. They want to focus on those issues where donald or joe biden is very vulnerable. Thats jobs. The Economy Costs and the border isaac, what is your sense of how the Biden Campaign, as this is unfolding, is viewing it because when we started out, they didnt really want to touch it. The president kind of joked about it at the white house correspondents dinner, but otherwise they are kinda staying out of it. Do they think its breaking through . Do they think it . Any of this rigged system stuff that arguments of donald trump may is making has any resonance with independent and swing voters like how are they looking at it right now in this moment and their general feeling is that they want to be talking about all this stuff that makes the republicans look extreme, that makes donald trump look extreme and not on the daytoday of any of these court proceedings. They they think that for most people the feelings about this are baked in, even though i think is somewhat amazingly, most people have kind of accepted the idea that donald trump probably did have an affair with Stormy Daniels and that there was some payment made entirely possible thats where most people have gotten two, which is itself crazy thing. Right. But how it has litigated in the trial is what were going to see and what the jury decides about whats legal and that will matter. The verdict lift the whole show. Thats people are saying that it will that if donald trump is convicted, that that will have an impact, well see how thats true or whether thats its true but again, what the Biden Campaign wants to talk about is Donald Trumps positions on abortion. Donald trumps positions on democracy dumps trumps positions on all these things that they think put him way out of whack with the American Public and it comes to the formulation that i came jeffreys the democratic leader in the house has about it where he says, the Democratic Team normal versus team extreme, and thats the way they want this to be talked about all right, very interesting panel is going to stick around, but just ahead here get a lot of work to get back in shape. Again a deadly tornado, taryn up central oklahoma. The threat may not be over yet. 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Breaking news now, a deadly tornado touching down in oklahoma overnight, one person is dead, several homes damaged and the severe storm threat across the central us continues. Cnns lucy cabinet was in barn stall, oklahoma where dozens of homes were impacted overnight. Lucy, what are you seeing . Well casey, we are right on the outskirts of barn stall, oklahoma in os h county, about 45 minutes from tulsa. And the thousand or so residents here got the Tornado Warning alert late on monday night, that tornado taking a direct this this area taking a direct hit at least one fatality reported, and i want to give you a sense of where we are and what were looking at. I right now, im in front of what used to be a large garage structure. In fact, you can see behind me there is a Silver Grayish suv of vehicle, a truck. It gives you a sense of contexts because sometimes when structures like this or completely flattened, its really hard to imagine what used to be there before. To my left if we slowly pan over or reveal it, this was a large storage area, like a Public Storage area. So you can see the remains of some boats other storage items, Debris Nothing really left standing from that structure whatsoever. And to my right was and is a residential home. Some of it is made out of brick and so that while taking a direct hit is Still Standing but no longer level ball. And this is just a tiny fraction of the destruction thats been described in this area. The roads, two barn stall are completely blocked off right now, officers say that there is a Natural Gas Leak there. Theres also debris blocking the roads and the main focus on the town itself is Search And Rescue operations are trying to make sure that everyone is accounted for, that no one is trapped in the debris that everyone there is safe. The Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management did confirm the Natural Gas Leak. Were also about 20 minutes away from the hello sage nation reservation. We understand that Search And Rescue efforts are underway there as well. And bartlesville, another nearby town also took a direct hit. So this whole area has been impacted kc, but of course we have to wait until daylight to really understand the full scale of the destruction. Casey, very difficult mostly cabin off. Thank you so much for making your way. There to bring that to us. I really appreciate it. Lets go straight to our meteorologist, Derek Van Dam to learn more about the threat thats apparently not over yet. Derek, whats everyone in store for . Severe weather fatigue. Thats what we call this has been day after day after day of Severe Weather. Theres another round possible today. I just want to point out this visual that came into us last night. You can see some of the ongoing Search And Rescue operations with a flashlights and the distance also take note the trees completely stripped of their foliage indicative of a very powerful tornado that lucy is clearly on the ground now in barstow, oklahoma 16 tornado reports with this storm system that continues to advance eastward this Severe Weather threat for the time being, is slowly starting to diminish that some good news. We still have tornado watches that are up through about 8 00 a. M. Central standard time. Weve just seen the leyen moves through st. Louis a few severe thunderstorm warnings just south of there with gus of 60 Miles Per Hour possible. But what we believe will happen as once this line advances eastward, will start to see the environment take advantage of this very hostile atmosphere that we have and a few thunderstorms could pop up behind this line later this afternoon. Thats why the Storm Prediction Center has this hatched area four indianapolis, columbus, and cincinnati, louisville for the greatest potential of tornadoes, strong tornadoes as well. And this is what im talking about. Severe weather fatigue today. Tomorrow. And then for the De On Thursday at just wont stop casey. All right. Derek van dam, derrick. Thank you very much for that are coming up next here. President biden, such a deliver a major speech on antisemitism from capitol hill here today. Plus y, A Long Awaited Space Launch had to be scrubbed just before takeoff listen up america, meet has problems and its going to take us mediators to solve. So when wealth says too much, meat is bad and we should eat less of it, we say no world. We should eat more because i can turn plants into burgers and harb docks even meatballs. Now, plants can be meet people. Lets punch cholesterol in the face. 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Never forget is the message President Biden plans to try and drive that home when he delivers what the white house is characterizing as one of the most consequential speeches of his presidency. Set to unfold just a few hours on capitol hill, six months out from the election. And the president , of course, finds himself confronted by a war in gaza that divides his base and threatens his reelection prospects. He is also in the speech expected to address the dangerous spike and antisemitism across america since that war in gaza began he will speak to the horrors of october 7, when hamas unleashed the deadliest de, four jewish people since the holocaust. And he will speak to how since october 7, weve seen an alarming rise in antisemitism in the and our cities, our communities and our on our campuses on our campuses, the White House Press secretary, of course, referencing the recent wave of propalestinian protests that have gripped us colleges at least 43 protesters arrested monday at ucla in the school, forced to shift all classes to remote learning. Many of these protests have directly targeted jewish students and israel hi, an example is this Intifada Banner that was hung from a building at Columbia University that is, of course, a call for uprising against israel speak protesters interrupting Commencement Ceremonies at the University Of Michigan with antiisrael chance and similar scenes have played out at other Graduation Events across the country. Soon as chief political correspondent, dan abashed joins me now she of course also the anchor of Inside Politics data. Good morning to you. Good morning. This is the white house is characterized this. Theyve been talking about it for the last week or so as a major moment for President Biden at a time when we are faced with rising antisemitism, i have been shocked by some of the things i have seen on campus of my alma mater in the course of covering these protests. What is this speech mean for the president , but also for Jewish Americans . Look, my understanding is that the president is going to be historian and educator in chief largely in his speech today, which is really important. A lot of of what we are seeing, not just on College Campuses, but beyond College Campuses is comes from either a lack of education or a consumption of misinformation, disinformation and so what were going to hear him talk about today, i told is what actually did happen, not just in the holocaust. Hes going to be at the Holocaust Memorial museum. But its actually going to be at the capital. The event is sponsored by the you. No, no, thank you for for for correcting that, but its its about the holocaust and its in conjunction with what the mission is of that institution, which is not just to never forget, not just to tell people 6 million jews were murdered, but also what happened leading up to it. And look, ive done now done to our specials on antisemitism for cnn the first of which it was back in 2022, well before all of this and i learned a lot and im the granddaughter of survivors. And the fact that it is so steeped when i say it, i mean antisemitism, hate against jews is so steeped in not just modern civilization, but civilizations going Back Thousands and thousands of years. It is the original conspiracy theory. And so that is the kind of thing im told that he is going to talk about also touch on the protests. Im told by a biden official that he is going to say that the Campus Protests hes going to talk about what peaceful protests are, what they are not, and where the line should be drawn in terms of understanding the history of this. I mean, i think i am struck by how we are really still so close to having this have happened, right . I mean, the holocaust in historical terms was basically yesterday. And yet it seems like there isnt a historical i dont know if its an understanding or its not present for some in some of these conversations, the way certainly it was when i was growing up. Why do you think that has had some of it is time some of it is that it was 80 years ago and that i grew my grandfather fought in world war ii, exact right. So i remember that we grew up where it wasnt just reading it in a history book, it was hearing from people in our family. And it was much, much, much more present and as time goes by, not only is it not something that is part of the conversations that people have with their families. Its also not taught enough in schools. I mean, one of the things that i learned doing what the First Special was, how much Holocaust Education has fallen . Off the curriculum in so many schools, Public Schools across the country. And i just want to also on that note one thing that shouldnt be overlooked is that part of what the president is going to do today is hes going to direct the Department Of Education of civil rights to send a letter to every School District to give concrete examples of antisemitic behavior and discrimination. Hes going to direct the Homeland Security department to build an online Campus Safety resource and also try to redouble efforts to deal with online hate, which is absolutely huge. And i also just want to say that maybe its a little bit of a difficult line for the president to be talking about what hes going to be talking about on the backdrop of these protests. But i just want to underscore what i was told by Administration Official protesting is an american right and thats fine. Its that line that goes into intimidation and actual discrimination. Writing swastikas telling, telling a jew that they cant go someplace just because theyre jewish has nothing to do with the right to protest limit people think is an unjust over the difficult humanitarian situation and ghraieb over without response by without question. Lets bring our panel into this conversation. Sec dover david, from whose frequently at the table, wrote this in the atlantic about the headline is urging joe, joe biden, joe, he calls him in the headline, dont both sides. This speech. And he writes this quote, most American Jews accept that mainstream us liberals like biden reject both variants of antisemitism hes talking about the rightwing and leftwing as he sees it, very observable. Mainstream american liberalism is a lot more comfortable standing up to the green, Marjorie Taylor greene version than the Omar Ilhan Omar one. Hes noting that this is something thats present on the far right on the far left. How does the Biden Administration see this . And how is he going to ive tried to use this speech in that way when joe biden toxin, ive i can almost recite it from memory the way that he talks about what got him into running for president in 2020. He says, The March Of Charlottesville was what didnt any one says the anti antisemitic bile. Thats the phrase comes out of his mouth. That was the same as it was in the 1930s. You see that this is an issue for him that goes back from long before 2017 when that happened, but has been with him always and he saenz the antisemitism as something that is deeply on american for somebody who is not jewish, i would say, you hear him talk about antisemitism more than pretty much anyone else who is not jewish. And he, but he is looking at whats going on here and seeing that this is coming out of people who are on the left and on the right and trying as he often does to be the force to say lets be common sense, lets, this is what america is that has been getting rejected by a lot of people obviously buy a lot of voters so far but he is trying to tap enter here is something that, you know, is dan was talking about what the legacy of antisemitism is. So insidious and what has been so disturbing to so many people ill jewish tonight and his Campus Protests is seeing how easily its tipped into asking jews do show whether they have a wristband and one of the campuses to enter or calls for jews two di and that is this really tricky place that biden wants to be in the button is in and what do you want . Lets do is try to again reset how were thinking about this by talking about what the actual facts are that this is there, there are a lot of jews in israel who criticize what the Israeli Government is doing. Many, right . You showed the protests from yesterday about it. There are a lot of Jews In America who disagree with what israel is doing but there are very few jews who would say that what has been coming out of the antisemitism is okay. And very few people who have felt the ally ship, the way that the , the term or the laugh that usually gets talked about, it has been there in the same way, joe biden trying to stay and there as the president saying, i have been on this journey for a long time and i want to put the country back there. All right. As you go very for us, isaac. Thank you. Dana. Thanks. Casey. All right. Coming up next, a prominent conservative republican who wants to fight donald trump decides hes voting for Joe Biden Plus democratic congressman jake aacn clauses, he told you in our table next we live our lives on our homes fabrics, and though we come and go, are odors stay, its called odor transfer, left untreated. Those odors get trapped inside fabrics and then really smells into your ehr you need for brief fabric refresher its formula, proven deliver longlasting oraa fighting power. So you can enjoy ball, laughing, precious, even hours after spring. 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Russian state media reporting the soldier will be detained for two months and citing eight Foreign Ministry official who said the alleged crime is quote not related to politics or espionage in an unrelated incident, a Second American was arrested and sentenced to ten days in jail for drunk and disorderly conduct. Bernie sanders will seek a fourth term in the senate. The at twoyearold Vermont Independence says the november election is quote, the most Important National election in our lifetimes, quote. And he says he wants to be part of the fight for democracy speaking, the fight for democracy. Geoff duncan endorsing Joe Biden Over donald trump, the former lieutenant governor, is a conservative republican. He is urging other fellow republicans to follow his lead for the good of the country sometimes the best way to learn your lesson is to get beat. And donald trump needs to get beat. To think Donald Trumps wholeheartedly a conservative is just fake news at its finest. This guy a fake republican. We have to move on as republicans, we have to so note he did actually lose to joe biden in 2020 and not that hes been willing to accept that. All right. This morning, the Israeli Military says theyve seized control of the gaza inside of the rafah crossing, a crucial entry point for humanitarian aid video from the Israel Defense forces shows israel, israeli flags raised at the crossing. The offensive cons, as protests on College Campuses here in the over the war in the middle east continue. As President Biden is slated to address the rise in antisemitism during a speech this morning, marking cola cost, remembrance day, drawing me not to discuss democratic congressman jake aacn, class of massachusetts congressman. Thank you very much for being here today how would you characterize the importance of President Bidens speech today addressing Holocaust Remembrance Day hes speaking to jewish and americans. Jewish americans, excuse me at a time when they are more anxious and afraid than at any point in my lifetime. He needs to remind americans that auschwitz is not long ago and not far away. That pluralism and tolerance are part of america as dna and i hope and so doing that, he explicitly refutes the left of his party for their role in fomenting this antisemitism that will be a marker of leadership that he is willing to not just say as he did after charlottesville, that that type of hate is unacceptable, but its also an acceptable one. When it happens within his own party as regrettably it is right now in the United States. I also want to see actions though, particularly the resourcing the Political Support for civil rights investigations under the Department Of Education for universities failing to uphold their title six responsibilitie s i was on harvards campus last week meeting with jewish is really students. They describe a pattern of ostracism and harassment that is clearly disparate treatment and is clearly an unsuitable Learning Environment for them. And for that Harvard Corporation and harvards president is liable you said that you have been on the campus of harvard. You visited with these students just now. How can you help us understand what that looks like for them . Because i do think when we hear a lot of the voices from these protesters who were trying to say, well, its peaceful, were not actually harassing jewish students. Clearly, the jewish students do not feel that way. What is it that theyre experiencing . So first of all, its bigger than the protests. The protests are a crystallizing moment for much of the antisemitism thats been bubbling up on these campuses. And to be clear the anti zionism has oftentimes morphed into antisemitism. Theres this trick where people are recycling age old antisemitic tropes and replacing the word jew with the word zionist. Yeah, were onto that. Thats still antisemitic. You can absolutely criticize the Israeli Government. You can absolutely protests. Netanyahu or any actions that you wanted these really government fair game. But you cant say all zionists are murderers and not expect people i think that thats also antisymmetric as well theres a different experience i think for jews and for israelis on these campuses, the jewish students have to code, theyre zionism to work in progressive spaces. If youre a jewish student and you want to be active and lgbt issues if you want to be active and democracy issues, you can also be zionists. They have to now suppress that onto their identity. Is really students are just downright harassed on campus for them, it is. They cannot participate in most of the academic and social settings on many of these universities. And for that reason, ive pressed eight massachusetts universities to come back with an action plan for how are you going to improve your antisemitism climate on campus . Because the adl ranked four of them with an f and the other four with a c for how theyve upheld a suitable Learning Environment for jewish students. You mentioned that you think that the president has to call out and speak to the left of your party. And it is your party as well as the president s party. And many of the people who are the loudest voices on this in the Democratic Party are actually members of the House Of Representatives who do you, how do you think their actions . Some of the actions of the people in the house, democrats in the house have impacted this debate. Its a question of double standards of the kinds of speech and conduct that feel acceptable when its targeted towards jews are israelis, it doesnt feel acceptable, acceptable against other protected classes. In the United States and its also a question of Insufficiently Separating criticism of the Israeli Government with criticism of the jewish people, or of all zionists period. And then the third element is, we have to fully condemn october 7 and put the culpability where it belongs with witches, with hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization that has promised to repeat the atrocities of october 7th, which include rape, torture, and the murder of children and the party right now in the middle east working for a permanent cease fire, despite what these protesters may think is actually israel. Because israel, by trying to architect a postwar governance in gaza, that, that excludes some os is setting the conditions for a permanent cease fire and peace in that region. Whereas hamas wants time to rest of me fit so that they can attack get real again, thats not my opinion. Thats what hamas is leadership has said. We will do this again as they did five times previously do you think there are members of the house in your party who are antisemitic . Im not going to speak to whats in peoples hearts. What i will say that members of the party who encourage and egged on protesters who have taken on an antisemitic bent are making the environment on these campuses worse for jewish students can i just ask you a question when i i did a special on this back in 2022, and i just did most of my focus was on the right, on white supremacist, on the fact that the door was kicked open to hard, disgusting antisemitism, mostly coming from the right. I did something on a progressive student who was kicked out of her Progressive Group having nothing to do with the group and nothing to do with with judaism or israel or anything because she said that she supported the notion of a israel, the time the head of the adl, Jonathan Green glad said to me the antisemitism on the right is like a hurricane on the left, its like climate change. Its slow what does it now . What is your party when it comes to antisemitism . The Democratic Party overall is strongly in the american tradition of pluralism and tolerance. And joe biden crystallizes the best of that. But in order to maintain that reputation, that profile, what the American People we have to be willing to condemn name, shame and isolated antisemitism in pockets on the left and the template here for us to avoid is what happened with the labor party in Great Britain. The labor party in Great Britain allowed antisemitism to mutate into its mainstream. And it has now had to excise some of those worst tumors. The Democratic Party needs to be forceful and preventing that. Were nowhere near that. I dont want to overstate the case, but it does require force for leadership from words from President Biden, from Party Leadership like hakeem jeffreys, who has been superb on this issue then it requires us to put our money where our mouth is in terms of office of civil Rights Enforcement measures from education department. Yeah do you think that the Biden Administration is announcing some actions on that today . They have it was in barbie came out at 5 00 a. M. This morning, they are going to do some of what you describe as my understanding i suppose if you havent seen the details yet, you may not be able to answer whether or not you think it goes far enough. But how i mean, how much money are we talking about here . Like what, what would satisfy you . Well, ive been working with my colleagues on i believe at least 300 million extra dollars for the office of civil rights. These are a bunch of hard work and lawyers within the Department Of Education, chronically underresource with the investigations that unfortunately are surging through their door right now. So theyre going to need more attorneys and more resources to move around the country. I also want to hear and see the president and his administration not tried to both sides of this issue and instead really forcefully say we have an antisemitism problem right now. Heres what were doing about antisemitism. Jews or 2 of the American Population count four, i think more than 60 of religious based hate crimes in the country right now, theres clearly a need for a specified surge in Ocr Investigations related to antisemitism okay. This has been a great conversation, congressman. Thank you very much. And congressman is going to stick around with us as we make the turn to this is much more important than jail studying clouds ill do that sacrifice any day donald trump saying he would rather go to jail than comply with the gag order in his new york Hush Money Trial after judge juan merchan found trumping contempt for violating that order. For the 10th time, Merchan Tool Trump directly in court on monday, quote, the last thing i want to do is put you in jail. You are the former president of the United States and possibly the next president. Just a reminder. This is New Territory for all of us for the judge threatened to throw trump in jail while also acknowledging it could be the next president of the United States that is a wild series of words board. Somehow accustomed to it. I guarantee it when most people saw that headline, they just scrolled past it on their phone like trump may go to jail and then we do this new kendrick distract mean some truth to that guy to your i mean, it is i just want to just spend a second and it is remarkable that a judge just told the Presumptive Republican president ial nominee a former president of the country that he could go to jail well, one of the things have donald trump amazingly does well in Defying Gravity as he simultaneously plays the martyr. The strongest person in the room right now, he tries to do that simultaneously and it works with payment his base. But i think the challenge that trump and his team face is, it is a base play. And so were hearing so much about how this would help donald trump if he were actually sent to jail, you get into very high cotton at that point and risky territory. If youre thinking that because if people see the potential president going to jail, a lot of those independent voters, a lot of those nikki haley voters, and theres still voting for nikki haley might say, wait a second. This is not a direction i want to go in. It will be a big fundraising moment for trump for sure. Yeah. I mean, congressman, its kind of wild that we have to raise this as a hypothetical. But here we are. I mean, it trump going to jail al are being detained or even this conversation what is the political ramifications of it if this is how he behaves in a courtroom, hows he going to behave in the oval office . We need to remind the American People of the chaos of the trump years and underscore that now any boundaries and standard, standards that may have accompanied his First Administration will be jettisoned and a potential second administration. Meanwhile, joe biden and democrats are trying to figure out how to lower the cost of health care, trying to invest in infrastructure, trying to expand domestic manufacturing to outcompete china. Its team normal versus team extreme. And donald trump is the absolute exemplar team extreme Trauma Center jail real quickly every Congressional Republican is going to put out a statement or a tweet supporting donald trump. And then privately say, this is the last thing i want to be we will hold them all to account for it come november to the Democratic Party, they need to be tied to the extremism that he represents. Elliott. What did you read into the judges remarks . I mean, like do you connect youre going to do this, but i think ive read very judgmentally Strong Language and i think hes prepared to put the former president in it behind bars, but theres a few things. One, he laid out as he should have your a candidate for office, youre a former and maybe future president cover your ears, congressman but for those reasons, im very reluctant to put behind bars also because doing so will slow down the criminal trial that it is in the interest of the public to complete. He even says in the order here, if appropriate, and warranted, he will put the president behind bars and i just think think hes hes hedging a little bit and reluctant to do it. I just think on the rob politics, youre right that members of congress are going to, republicans, if that happens in the auction unlikely event republicans would put out statements saying this is outrageous i know judges are not supposed to have political antenna up, but he basically said the judge said like, i dont want to do this and its not just because of his stature of what he was and what he could be. Its theres no question that the judge understands that the political backlash to putting donald trump in jail would be maybe even in comprehensive judge texted me last night saying hes gotta do it for all judges all around. Well, yeah, from the perspective of course its pretty integrity. The judiciary, i think this judge doesnt live in fantasy land and no, not at all. Huge fall back out, of course, back, yeah. For sure. All right well, on that note, a conversation dan and i are going to continue to have elliott two, i think all de here on cnn as we cover the trial, which resumes again and nine 30 this morning. Thanks to our panel, congressman. Thank you for joining us. Thanks to all of you for being with us. Dont go anywhere. Its gonn