A secret service says its plan to protect him worked so how did an armed combat with the lengthy criminal record ligand, wait for 12 hours before getting within shooting distance of the former president of the united states. I'm kaitlan collins. And this is the source air tonight at 9:00 p. M. We are hearing for the first time from donald trump about that moment on the golf course yesterday what a secret service agent who was walking ahead of him spotted an apparent assassin hiding in the bushes all of a sudden we heard shots but being fired in the air. And i guess probably four or five and it sounded like bullets, but what do i know about that? but secret service knew immediately bullets and they grabbed me and i think probably the other ones, steve is one of the people see what gov, a great friend of mine, a secret service agent had seen a barrel of a ak47, which is a very powerful gun rifle. And you started shooting at the barrow and started shooting in the bushes could only see the barrel. How good is that? right? but could only see the bear on based on that, he started shooting and ran toward the target. And was shooting a lot. Of i mean, those were the shots we heard. The other one never got to shut off and he ran across the street and grabbed his car, hopped into his truck or a car. And amazingly, a civilian in that area, so something and it looked very suspicious and in the car, drove the car to the back of his truck of some kind and took pictures of the license plate game them to the sheriff's office i just want to note is we are hearing from trump on this. What we did hear from authorities today is his rifle was actually not an ak47 as they initially thought today, it was a different kind of rifle. And this also comes as late this evening, we're hearing from trump, we're also hearing from his running mate, senator j. D. Vance, who is speaking for the first time in public about the phone call that he he had with trump just minutes after all this happened right? answer it and he says, jd, you're not going to believe this, but they tried to do it again i said no, they didn't joshua me. What's going on here, sir end he says no, i was playing golf and the secret service found somebody who was trying to shoot me a lot more on what we are hearing from them tonight. What details they're revealing as we're also learning more about the multiple investigations now underway to determine whether this latest apparent attempt on trump's life could have been prevented. And if enough is being done to protect the republican nominee the fbi tells us that the suspect appears to have moved under the cover of darkness in the middle of the night around 2:00 a. M. When cell phone data shows ryan ruth in the area of the golf course at trump international. He may have remained there for nearly 12 hours, armed with that powerful gun the acting director of the secret service, who is now indefinitely in florida as they investigate this, as he spoke to trump, and that he has the highest level of protection right now few people know all things. Donald trump in south florida more than my lead source tonight, the state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg and dave, it's great to have you here because we were talking yesterday, just as all this was happening and this was getting underway and we were a lot of details. We're just coming out, but given this is all happening in your backyard, what's your assessment of what we've heard from officials today about where all of this stands right now good to be with you. Kaitlan. Well, the feds are on top of this. They are doing a full thorough investigation and they have charged the suspect with two charges that will stick this. These are the easy charges punishable by up to ten years in prison for an ex felon possessing a firearm while all you need is an ex felon check and it was possessing a firearm check. You don't need any more intent or anything. So they're going to keep behind bars for that and you've got the other charges obliterating a serial number on a firearm. They got that to punishable by up to five years in prison there's still maybe a chance. And i think a probability that more charges could come, like aggravated assault with a firearm against a federal law enforcement it's an officer that's when the suspect pointed his rifle allegedly at a secret service agent. So that can get you up to 20 years in prison. So i think the feds are going to keep investigating and ultimately they could add on some new charges well, what about given clearly there was premeditation here. There was the gopro this person was lying there from wait for about 12 hours based on the cell phone data, what other charges could we potentially see here? because that was a big question today when it was just those first two per pertaining to this gun itself? well that aggravated assault with a deadly weapon that's a possibility. There's also a federal statute on threatening an ex president that can get you up to five years in prison they're going to look to see what is social media sites. Say, what was in the bag, what writings he's had, what kind of threats he's given. And that could be an additional charge generally when it comes to like, attempted murder, that's more a state charges and a federal charge, but also i think you did more than you have right now. You really have to get into his state of mind. He's got to take a substantial step into taking action that mean it's always a possibility. But generally, those kinds of charges are really at the state level rather than the federal level, but make no mistake. I think this guy is a whole world of hurt. He's going to be facing many years in prison and he's not going to get out of jail pending trial. They're going to show that he's a danger to the community. So he's not going to get pretrial release we heard from the sheriff and palm beach county earlier today talk about how maralago is about as safe as it can be at this point, talking about the level of protection at that place. But obviously the golf course is separate than that. It's about a 15minute drive as you will know, it's across the bridge in west palm beach how much harder is it to secure something like the trump international golf course that it is the maralago club which have that one entrance and one entrance out with obviously a guard shack at the front of it and a much harder perimeter. It seems yes. In fact, maralago is bordered on one side by water and they can easily shut down the roads. In fact, they've shut down the road, one major road outside of maralago, even when the former president is not there and that's the consternation of the palm beach residence now, in west palm beach is much harder to shut down the roads. You got major roads right outside of the golf club, which you're correct about ten to 15 minutes away. There's also those large shrubbery. The trees that are right in front of the fence. And so someone could hide in that and some very large perimeter. It's very difficult to monitor them that entire area, especially if you've got someone willing to wait for 12 hours to go there on the cover of darkness you know, this is not the first time you've seen someone breached the trees into the fence, there had been paparazzi been media members now, a lot of times the media will alert secret service. Sometimes they don't, and they take pictures of the former president while he's golfing. This is just first time someone has pointed a rifle at the former president, least in his direction. And so i do anticipate there'll be more security, but it's just really hard to monitor that property that closely. Yeah and, you know, yesterday when there was that first briefing by officials, you were there and you spoke to reporters just before we'd actually seen charges now we've seen that brief body cam footage that they've released of them actually arresting ryan ruth. You can see officials have their guns drawn there directing him to back up with his hands in the air. He lifts his shirt seemingly to it to show he doesn't have any weapons or anything on him as he walks backwards. And then they arrest him what are you hearing from other colleagues? law enforcement people tonight about just the aftermath and i mean, are they shocked that this was able to happen? they're grateful at the good samaritan. Think about it. You had a passerby who saw something suspicious, took a photo of the cars license plates, so law enforcement was armed with that knowledge, not just to the make and model of the car, but the license plate. And he still was able to get out 45 minutes of a head start driving north, apparently perhaps driving back to north carolina but he only got as far as the county north of palm beach, martin county where the deputies had a great stop. And i think this shows also that the suspect is used to this maybe not this type of crime, but he's got a long felony rap sheet back in north carolina. So he knows enough not to try to do anything weird on that traffic stop roles, you could get shot. He knows enough not to talk. Apparently he didn't. He clammed up, didn't say anything when he was stopped and now he was joking with his lawyer today in court. So yeah, this guy has been through the process time and time again, but his attorney will be getting out anytime soon. Well, yeah, the word was that he was all smiles in his initial appearance, joking with his attorney. I don't know if he was trying to show that he's insane or he just is that kind of person. By the way, it's gonna be very hard for him to establish a an insanity defense because although he's clearly got a screw loose when he fled, it showed that he knew the difference between right wrong to establish an insanity defense, you have to not know the difference between right and wrong. Why do you flip? because he knew what you did was wrong and against the law that's really interesting. David aronberg, thank you for that. As you hear more, please keep us updated and come back to us here on the source thank you. Kaitlan. And as you heard, mr. Aronberg mentioned there, brian didn't make that first court appearance today where he was apparently joking with his attorney, didn't seem like much of a joke. He had his hands and his feet shackled together as he was facing those two federal gun charges that we mentioned, a short time after that, we learned that route that actually popped up on the fbi's radar. Our back in 2019 after there was a tip about a felon in possession of a gun, even as law enforcement tried to run down that, what led up to this, we should note tonight the secret service is still facing a pretty immense challenge, which is what comes in, what happens with trump's golf course and just how accessible it is. We know this firsthand here at cnn because take a look at these images as mr. Ehrenburg just mentioned, when trump was in office, are photojournalists could often capture video of him golfing at trump international. Now this would come if the white house didn't say whether or not the president was golfing or who it was would journalists often relied on images like the ones that you're seeing here to get a sense of the the president's schedule, but to capture these images seen him, photographers were not on the property. Its still itself. Instead, we were positioned across the street on public property oftentimes officials knew we were there. Sheriff's would ride by. But trump has often still very visible through our cameras, through the tree line of the property itself. Our top law enforcement sources tonight are cnn, national security analyst, and the former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem, and also former fbi senior intel officer filled, but it's great to have you back fill because what we heard from the fbi today and this ties back to what david was just talking about. There are potential may maybe insanity plea if that's what what the suspect goes for here, they're talking to witnesses were at the scene there talking to members of his family. One of those interviews what what kind of questions are they asking? boy, there's a lot of them, but first question are gonna be about whether there's there are other people who were involved in this. You've got to ensure even if you are 99% certain, there was no conspiracy, you got to ensure that nobody was helping him. Nobody told him that trump would be their you also have questions obviously about who provided the weapon, but then investigation gets more complicating. As you add in things like what's on his cell phone, what's his email? what what's his google search history? you might be going back to reinterview people with what happened a year ago, what happened two years ago? how did he get motivated to do this? was he inspired by somebody so? the initial questions are about threat, but that the investigation starts to get more complex as you get a timeline going back, maybe 2345 years, kaitlan yeah. And obviously the gun is a big question here. Phil and juliet, that's that's why i'm wondering about this 2019 investigation that an fbi tip that they got that he was it's in possession of a firearm that he was a felon. He's obviously not allowed to have one. But the click case we were told was closed because the bureau said they didn't get any more information i mean, when i heard that kind of raised my eyebrows in a sense of why would that be the case here? why would they wouldn't look into this any further if that is something that they're worried about right? and the question is, who do who tipped them off? was it a family member? we know it was his daughter's car. We know the sons spoke yesterday. They have concerns of what his possession of how he came into possession of the gun as well as why the fbi did not pursue it, could they not find tim while you all of questions that will be asked because you go back in any of these cases, there's always these moments, right? if only someone had stepped in or they've gone and investigated this, if only than this could have been stopped. So those are going to be the main questions for how did he possess this? why? wasn't he stopped before? how did he stay at the golf area for so long with a car? amancio, if it is not just him hiding. There is a car right there doing this for me as someone who studies radicalization and talks often with you about political violence? there is a definite disconnect between what we're seeing before and all of a sudden this political violence and so what hasn't, what happened in the last couple of weeks, months, or years that would have turned him from some guy who was like very into ukraine to now being a potential assassin. Again, it's trump and that's what you're going to want to look for. Were there other people egging them on? was he online? did he get radicalized by the butler, pennsylvania assassination attempt? and he's a copycat and therefore, we should worry about others yeah. And he obviously has a pretty massive online presence. If you look through the social media feeds, there's a lot for officials to pour over here, but feel on the golf course the other thing we heard from the acting secret service director today was there was no full sweep of the golf course. He kind of seemed to imply it was a lastminute trip to the golf course that it wasn't really on the schedule. It certainly wasn't on any public schedule. But instead of securing and sweeping the whole course and age, it was just moving one to toll, one or two holes before him. Gratefully because that's how they they saw this guy but given its public knowledge, trump regularly plays golf. It was a sunday afternoon. He's got a big motorcade. It's not hard to know where he is at a given time i mean, what was your reaction to that today my reaction is that the american population will overreact to this. Look, there'll be legitimate questions about resourcing for the secret service. There will be a question about whether you have to shut off every street every time the president united states decides to go golf but when you ask for that level of security and assurance that the president will never be touched what you're going to get as a president who is not accessible to the american people that's not been the american way. Think about when president obama won 20 years ago. I remember that fewer than 20 years. I remember that there were thousands of people in chicago, washington, should he you're not done that. Think about what president bush that was 20 years ago. President bush went to ground zero in new york. Should that have not happened because he was accessible to people. If you want assurance of perfect security, you're going to have presidents who aren't accessible. So that's going to be a tough question to ask at kaitlan. What's the balance? yeah, it's a good question that's now going to be raised by two of these incidents happening within two months. 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You guys need to cut it out, or you're going to get somebody hurt my political sources tonight are trump's former white house communications director, alyssa farah griffin and vice president harris is former communications director jamal simmons and alyssa vance said that tonight. He also said, quote, i'm not going to say we're always perfect. I'm not going to say that conservatives are always getting things exactly right, but i want you to listen to what trump compared to say about who he believes is responsible for what's happening a lot of rhetoric going a lot of people think that the democrats, when they talk about threat to democracy and all of this. And it seems that both of these people were radical left i mean, just i'm viewing this through how we're talking about this now, how he's talking about this now compared to what we were, people were saying two months ago after what happened in butler. Right? obviously, what happened was horrible. There's going to be a lot that comes out in the course, the investigation never should have happened. It'd be terrible for the country, obviously, if anything were to happen to the former president but the conversation today does need to be about political rhetoric. But one of the biggest offenders of escalatory rhetoric is donald trump and j. D. Vance. And the very clip where j. D. Vance says that he's going to work on himself. He's basically accusing democrats of their rhetoric leading to this. And i think that it is this moment as a moment for sobriety that calls for serious leadership and unfortunately it's doesn't seem to be a selfreflective moment even though it was the candidate, donald trump that himself was a victim. And i just want to say this because donald trump put out this screen afterward, basically saying democrats are responsible for the rhetoric, but then also saying they're the enemy from within. That's the kind of language or adversaries love to hear us throwing around. It tears us apart from within. And by the way, it does put people at risk and i want to know kamala harris has also faced threats, gotten thankfully, she's not actually become a target as directly as donald trump has over the weekend, a rightwing handle called essentially for harm to be done to her. This is something that happens every day online but the step that it takes to then go further and somebody act, it's actually a very small step and we're all responsible for taking it day yet that was the national libertarian party of new hampshire. I believe that had posted that just hours before all this happened. And in this environment, we heard from hillary clinton tonight. She said what happened to trump yesterday is a she said this idea that political violence the violence is being used in the wake of a political campaign is frightening. And she was also asked about what trump has been saying about democrats rhetoric. This is what she had to say well, you know, it is so regrettable that the former president would take what is a genuinely terrible event of someone stalking a former president and current candidate. And turn it into, as he did with that tweet that you just read a political attack on his opposition and little literally everybody else who does not support him national candidate for the white house, for the presence united states we use a kind of rhetoric, donald trump does and always raise the temperature and moments when we should be bringing it down so that everybody can catch their breath and move in a different direction. That is something that's as it should be disturbing for everybody. And here's the thing. These, these people, whether it's the president, the vice president, and the candidates, they've got secret service protection they've got people who are looking out for them. There are a lot of people who were there, supporters who don't have secret service protection. What about those folks that are out there and we know that rhetoric gets people amped up about this. So we've got polling places. We're going to have to protect come election day. There are people who often show up at polling places, not looking to do the best that looking to be the be their best selves right? so we've got to make sure i think all of us are bringing it down to there is a there isn't a calmness that we can get this election done without having anything serious happen. Well, and initially after what have been in butler, people were saying everyone needs to calm down their language. That's what you were hearing from republicans, from democrats. They were saying that trump was going to a unifying force. Obviously, we heard his, his convention speech that even some of his own aides thought kind of missed the mark. But alyssa, on this when the trump campaign today is pulling every quote of anyone who said donald trump, including harris is a threat to democracy hours where this happened, trump tweeted in all caps that the new york times, the failing new york times is a true threat to democracy. I mean, he himself has also using this language. I also think we have to be honest in our discourse. We're in a political season. We make our voices heard at the ballot box, talking about someone being a threat to democracy who tried to overturn an election is a legitimate criticism of the former president language that goes it's further than that is not language that mischaracterizes him or calls him an enemy from within. I would never call them that. I would never call them america's hitler as he now running mate dead or a pit, possibly america's hitler, that kind of escalatory language doesn't have a place in our politics. 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We don't have an alternative success we have to have it every day. We cannot have failures. And in order to do that, we're going to have some hard conversations with congress and we're going to achieve that my sources tonight are on the other end of those conversations, congressman jim himes is the ranking member on the house intelligence committee, and congressman jared moscowitz is a member of the congressional task force investigating the assassination attempts. Now plural, on donald trump, great to have you both here we've heard from president biden on this today, who said, you know what's going? non is not sustainable. He said the secret service needs more help. And i think congress should respond to their needs if they in fact need more service people, are we going to see a congressional response to this i think we will. I think the judge committee is going to do some good work and really get to the bottom of what happened the first time, the first time the attempt on the president's life in pennsylvania was obviously an egregious failure operationally the question of whether more resources are needed me i heard the same quote you did from the acting director obviously, the mission is so critical that if more resources or the answer to the question, they're going to get more resources well, what does that look like? because i mean you kind of have an indication of this since for two months congress has been investigating what happened the first time i think it's hard to believe that now you're tasked with dealing with a second assassination attempt what is the need of the secret service when it comes to what we saw happen yesterday, your will look, i appreciate the new director coming forward and saying here it needs more resources, right? we had a first assassination attempt. He wasn't jumping up and down for more resources at the time. Now we have a second one and now a sudden we need more resources. Look like he wasn't the director at the time when it came acting director because the first one was booted because of what happened. Know, of course. But but today he's asking for more resources. He's been the acting director now for several weeks. And so look i think if he needs the resources, he will get those resources from congress. But i also think we have a process and protocol problem, not just a resources and manpower issue. They're saying donald trump is getting the highest level of protection. Well, this is the highest level where we need to see several higher levels that they need to create for level of protection because it's inadequate, it's clear nearby i mean, there's not a single american right now in my opinion that has faith in the secret service. Do you have faith in the secret service? not at this moment. How can you have faith? it's 60 days. We've had two assassination attempts. That doesn't mean there's not great men and women working there. It just means at this moment, they've had to fails in 60 days do we need to change how we classify? if i what details someone gets something trump does not have the same level as president biden. I was told yesterday, it's closer to what vice president harris has now to a degree, but doesn't need to be based not just on your position as a former president or major party nominee, but on the threat level against somebody sure. But the threat lover matters. But so does the fact the president is in a unique position. The president holds nuclear command authority no one else does know ex president does. So of course, you're going to double down on protection around the one individual in the united states who has nuclear command authority that said, the notion there should be risk you know, there's an awful lot of conversation on my committee around how serious the iranians are of in their stated goal to assassinate a u. S. Official that is not acceptable. So even though there may be different levels of protection, as the secret service director just said, you know, failure is never an option. Well, and just quickly on that, i mean, if congress does need to move here, can they move before the election? i mean, we've got, you know, two months left. Of course i mean, we've got a must pass piece of legislation that will be voting on the next two weeks. I'm confident that we're actually not going to shut the government down whatever continuing resolution, whatever bill keeps the can carry along a ride you're which i suspect would have bipartisan support that we're going to provide the resources that the secret service needs. And of course, by continuing resolution, what congress is looking at is only funded the government through december and then revisiting this fight again, just a few months, i want to ask you, you're from florida governor desantis has said that essentially he's opening his own investigation into what's happened not just leaving it up to the fbi and the secret service. Is that a move that his reasoning for it? we were looking at today was essentially and we were hearing from others who said they don't trust the front, the fed's that includes, include senator mike lee are republican. Do you agree with desantis is moved to conduct his own investigation? look, i actually don't have a problem if the the folks at the florida department of law enforcement want to conduct her own investigation. I think the folks obviously at the sheriff's office in palm beach are going to be helping with the investigation so that i don't have a problem with that. You know, obviously, no one should be playing politics with this. I think we want to get answers right now. I think the federal government's one of the largest failures in this moment, and it's a failure from the butler moment as well as the american people want information. And they haven't still gotten information from butler. We're still not we still don't know the motive of the first shooter. And so if you look for people on the left, think the first, the first assassination attempt was staged. People on the right thing, it was the deep state. And that's because they're filling the void with misinformation and distrust information. Because these agencies are not sharing information. I get it that it's protocols. Usual, let's complete the investigation then we'll share with the american people, but we have to think outside of the box, these are extraordinary circumstances. We need these agencies weekly to be sharing information with the american public. Otherwise, more of this is going to go on. Yeah. And you're both democrats? given the conversation we were just having of the trump campaign pulling out anytime a democrat has said trump is a threat to democracy is a point of of democrats needing to tone down their rhetoric. I just wonder what your take on that is. I mean, two things about this conversation are really bothersome and actually deeply dangerous. Number one, is making that statement. Now, the lesson thing i want to do is get into a for tat here. But the american people know who has advised the police to not be too nice in their apprehension of suspects. They saw what happened on january 6. It's absurd that the vice presidential candidate and donald trump are pointing the fingers at democrats. And by the way, is precisely what they shouldn't be doing at a moment when they should be taken down the political temperature. The other thing that is just made me bristle when you said it is senator mike lee and others who are saying they don't trust the feds the misinformation and the notion that the federal government, and look, we do oversight of the federal government. So it will be the first to tell you that there are challenges inside the federal government. But when you constantly beat the drum that you can't trust the fbi, that the intelligence community is in the tank for death democrats are for whoever it may be. What you do is every time you say that a few more americans get angry at their own country for no good reason. There is no evidence backing any of this stuff. And if you work hard enough to delegitimize the government in the eyes of americans, you're going to create a very dangerous environment. Congressman jim himes, jared moskowitz, great to have you both here on set thank you up. Next, speaking of the political temperature, elon musk now says he was just joking when he posted quote, no one is even trying to assassinate joe biden or kamala harris. He'd later deleted it. And now the secret service it was looking into it the pros for have i got news for you are pretty okay. Yeah. What are the kinds we could run out the news before then that would never happen if i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn and streaming next day on mac hi, i'm jay jackson for almost 20 years, abacus life has been purchasing life insurance policies from seniors and in just seconds, you can use the free calculator and abacus pays. 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Why do you think he ultimately actually deleted this post? well, because i'm sure his legal team said, you need to delete this post is a very serious thing to do, especially when he has 193 million people following them are being forced, followed in some cases with him has been widely reported. So i think it was it was a step too far, although he takes steps too far all the time, he was actively read tweeting and commenting on pet, the haitian pet, eating situation, which is all false and he doesn't regularly. But this one was a little too far, i think even for him. Yeah. And you know, when we say the secret service's where of it that they're looking into it. I mean, they have to investigate all perceived threats, even as the person does say that they're joking, i was thinking today about john mulaney when he was on snl, he made a joke comparing trump to julius cesar, who was assassinated. He was investigated for that for 11 musk. He has major defense contracts with the u. S. He has access to highly sensitive information is we were just talk about with the congressman. They are sending spacex it says company to go and retrieve the astronauts that are stuck in outer space. I mean, this is not just your uncle, your crazy uncle tweeting this, you know. No, it's not. And let me tell you if the ceo of lockheed did this third be held various essentially. So i think he obviously is being treated differently from the average citizen and definitely from any others ceo. And he can say it's a joke and of course that reminds you of someone else, but he can't. He uses this thing as a rich toddlers playground, i guess we can say you know, essentially he's he's trying to say dirty words all the time. A version of that. And this case, he probably said it in front of some of his employees and they laughed because that's what you do when your boss isn't this funny? and then posted it last time he did something like this. The person who said he shouldn't put it up was fired. So nobody's going to tell them. It's not funny and he's in a group of people who enable them almost constantly, but it's his own fault. It's not their fault. Well, that's a good question because i do think people ask, why isn't anyone tell him not to do this, which is often something you can say also about trump, is they have this growing alliance, but really it's just the individual themselves who makes the decision that's absolutely true, but he actually elon musk fires people who disagree with them regularly. So i think that's one of the issues and a lot of people are sort of in this and they think it's one giant joke about everything including the haitian pets or it's trans people or whatever he constantly. And of course, he retweeted tucker carlson's interview with a hitler apologist and he just does this just to cause problems and very much like trump pee if attention is away from him for five seconds, it's like you can't breathe and so he does these things to create drama around themselves. So he stays in our daily lives constantly eventually hand trump will start to fight over attention if they president trump wins again, that'll probably be a problem. But eventually they'll come to blows because both of them seek attention. There, heat seeking missiles to attention kara, while i have you, i want to ask you something else tonight because meta said just now that they're banning the russian state propaganda broadcaster rte, as it's known and other kremlincontrolled networks, saying that they've engaged in deceptive influence operation and attempted to evade detection. How big of a deal do you think this decision is it's a big one from mark zuckerberg, trump has threatened to put him in prison. If you recall. And so it's a big deal to make this call. Obviously these are, as you said, propaganda machines that are, that are chronic create discord in our, in our world and in our society. And so it's the right thing to do. It'll be interesting to see of youtube will do the same obviously, x and twitter will not. It will welcome that propaganda because it does it on a daily basis but it'll be interesting to see if the other companies that are run by adults will think very hard about cutting off our tea she's a propaganda organization yeah, it's a great point. Kara swisher is always great to have you thanks a lot. Thank you so much. And i should note tonight there not many people who really have their own secret service detail. Of course, it's a lot for the secret service. 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There is no evidence that what happened yesterday or at that rally in butler, pennsylvania is connected to this new reporting, but it does speak to the threat environment overall that is facing a candidate for a major party in the united states and a former president it's one that's known well by my next guest, trump's former national security advisor, john bolton, who in 2021 when officials uncovered an iranian plot to kill him, ambassador bolton joins me live and abbas are just looking at this. I mean, you yourself still have protection to this day because of the threats against you for people who do not know what that is like, could could you just describe it for us don't want to describe it in full detail for obvious reasons, but my home is under protection 24/7, very much like the way it was when i was national security advisor and i have secret service with me when i when i travel so that again is very much like when i served in the government and i think that's typical of some of the others mark esper and others who are under the same general threat from iran. Obviously trump is the top of the list, but it's a very robust protection. Well, and obviously a lot of people who work in washington know a lot of the rank and file secret service agents. They worked very hard. And the one who was certainly with trump yesterday did an amazing job and spotting this person but overall, when you look at the secret service and just the questions that are being raised, does what happened to trump yesterday make you question your own safety? not at all you know, i have listened including just now on your show to hear yesterday being described as a secret service failure, wasn't a failure the guy was never able to take a shot at trump, the secret service system it is based on layered protection. You can't stop. Every wouldbe assassin before he gets out the front door of his home you have to ask what intelligence was there out there on this particular shooter there are a lot of theories, a lot of them have to do with politics i'm not at all sure that this pennsylvania episode and this episode at maralago is to not cases is the only way i can think of to describe them. The second one in particular, triggered by having seen the first one in a copycat action. It's a mistake, i think on insufficient evidence to jump automatically to the conclusion that these people are politically motivated. I don't think we know, but i would distinguish that from the threat against trump and others from the iranians, which is deadly serious and it's not internet chatter, it's not nut nutcases. It's the revolutionary guard corps and the quds force actively seeking to hi, or a hitman. So that for trump, i think would justify an increase in security even if these two attempts had nothing to do with it. And because of the risk of a copycat additional attempt, i think that's justification for more security for trump to well, i think the question when it comes to the iran and tell which i should note again, not we don't know that it's related at all to yesterday, but but if the trump campaign is briefed on that in recent weeks by senior intel officials about these that iran is trying to ramp up its attacks on trump directed at him why would that secret service level not changed in the interim period between what happened yesterday when they got that intelligence? no way to be on high alert that that threat was out there well it depends on what they're hearing about specifically about trump, what to do. And i am not briefed on that or on the intelligence on anybody else. I think i have a handle on one. What what what affects me, but it's for good and sufficient reason not briefed to everybody else who's part of this. I'd like to go on the iran threat, though to an antecedent question that this is really threats against former american officials and some who are still serving for carrying out their responsibilities as government employees and that is that is a threat really by a foreign power against just the individuals. But the government of the united states. And it's a good point to ask, why are we waiting for one of these targets to get hit we've been so solicitous of iran for the past threeandahalf years, our troops and our civilian employees in iraq have been subject to attack by iran armed equipped, trained, and financed shia militia in iraq and syria. Why, why are we waiting to be attacked before we, before we impose costs on iran and hopefully deter them from this kind of activity. Ambassador john bolton. Thank you so much thank you do want to know we have some breaking news tonight as we can now report here at cnn, that the embattled musician and producer sean diddy combs has now been arrested as according to the mogul's attorney. And what they are telling cnn tonight according to a source, comes as arrested in a manhattan hotel this evening. He is right now being processed. The charges are unclear at this time, and an attorney for combs tells cnn, quote, we are disappointed with the decision to pursue what we believe is an unjust prosecution if mr. Combs, cnn's elizabeth wagmeister is with us right now. What can you tell us about this arrest tonight we don't have many details at this moment, but just hearing from his attorney directly that he has been arrested. I am hearing that even his attorney these are not clear on what these charges are at the moment, but he was arrested tonight in a manhattan hotel. He is currently being processed. And of course we know that this comes after