Officials nationwide. As donald trump threatens to jail, many of them also, we need to get this deal done. Kamala harris avoids policy specifics before black journalists. But is that what liberals want? why, does not have to do it? and one of magas biggest fans is on track to become the world's first trillionaire. What that means for politics? and power live at the table. Scott jennings kara swisher, bryan lanza, and ashley allison welcome to a special special edition of newsnight state of the race phillip in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. The rhetoric, about the rhetoric tonight in michigan, after donald trump blamed democrats for the assassination attempts against him, he is making his first public appearance since that frightened thank incident this weekend a little while ago, i got a very nice call from kamala biden, i want to be nice. Yeah, he was so nice to me instead it but, you know, in one way, i sort of wish well, wasn't made because i do feel he's so so nice meantime, trump's number two is lecturing everyone about their rhetoric except apparently trump himself look, we can disagree with one another. We can debate one another, but we cannot tell the american people that one candidate is a fascist. And if he's elected, it is going to be the end of american democracy. Except here is vance's actual running mate saying exactly that to choice between communism and freed up. This is communist, this is marx's, this is fascist. There's a radical left marxists, communist fascist. She's a marxist she's a fascist comrade. Kamala harris comrade kamala harris if comrade kamala harris gets four more years, you will be living a full blown banana republic ruled by an anarchy and a tyranny test scum. They're scum and they want to take down country. They are absolute garbage all right, scott, so we should take the rhetoric down a notch correct? yeah, i think so. Including trump's, i think i think it would be great if everybody did. And i think it would be great if everybody who has been describing donald trump in terms of they add like biden and harris would say, you know what? we went too far and we didn't mean it, but they're not going to do that. And so yeah, i agree. I think every politician has a responsibility to cool it and take it down. And i think everybody should also look back on their own record and say, you know what, this wasn't great, and you all shouldn't believe me when i told you that trump was going to cause a bloodbath rip up the constitution, create a dictatorship because that was too much. So yeah, i think everybody should do that. Well, i mean, one of the things is that the idea that trump is exempt from this this no one's for ones exempt. The toning down i mean, j. D. Vance seems to not remember that his own running mate also called kamala harris, should be more precise. I totally agree with you, but there have been threats against other people just because they have not been realized. I mean, here's just a sampling of them all over the country, people have been arrested. One man was even killed in a confrontation with police over this. So the threats are on all sides of this and it is amazing that it's maybe it's not just j. D. Vance, but a lot of trump's surrogates are suggesting that democrats are solely responsible for the heightening of the rhetoric and completely forgetting that trump, i mean, we just played the clip. Listen, i would say is we sort of observe the last 24 hours with respect to the shooting, there has been a lot of victim shaming. Everybody's, you know, this is the only place where there's drama. Trump is the victim. It's okay to shell james him. He has been shot at once. There's been another assassination near attempt, and there were looked for the grace of the secret service getting ahead of it, we stopped another sat in a direct assassination attempt. The rhetoric gets hot. You have to remember when donald trump jumped into this race, he's probably the most insulted presidential candidate in american history. He has been called hitler. He he's been calling antisemitic. He's been called all he's things for sharing the same opinions that he had 20 years ago, but but he's not politically convenient to the democratic party. So yeah, he gets frustrated from time to time and the reading quiz hot, we probably do need to cool it a little bit. But there's no offramp. I mean, you see what let's look at what reed hastings says that he major democratic donor to the kamala harris and a democratic party the day before the first assassination attempt. Donald trump, reed hastings basic is that inaccurate? it's reid hoffman. Reid hoffman, very different person. Read it, basically said, hey, you know, we should have an if donald trump wants to be martyred, we should make him a martyr. There has been no criticism of that definitely take witnesses i watched i and i would add when i'm on this network, i come at this all the time. I get asked to condemn you know, any time somebody says anything inappropriate, very rarely do democrats get asked to condemn these things. I was on a number just after the first shooting, the tenth, where it brought up reid hoffman and the statements, you know, they very very quickly pivot away like, oh, it's no big deal. He is okay to say, but it's trump. Why don't people how it was okay accurate that is not what happened. It's maybe it convenient to you convenient. I criticized him a lot of everybody should agree to you don't see democrats who that is absolutely not true. I think they should keep his money i don't know. Should they keep money of elon musk asking for the murder of american president. Well, hold on. I mean, well, i guess we must just dip that he actually just did that. I mean, he needed the tweet but he didn't see what he said, well, you didn't why isn't anybody calling for biden and harris's assassination? i mean, yeah, that's basically what he tweeted. That happened. I mean, that's a joe let me just say that's a joke, but the other one is not when he was doing a figure of speech. This is, this is also i'm sorry to say stupid in terms of because what's happening actually is first of all, it's all propaganda. A lot of it is being done by foreign governments that are trying to create discord in this country. And it's working perfectly on people like you. It really is. And we should really start to focus in on where this is actually coming from and how we, every one of us is being manipulated by especially russia. But china and others. And if you look at the recent justice department investigation, it's very clear what they're up to, which is to create discord and anger within our country and allow us to attack each other but no one's ignoring what reid's said. That's just money that gave me feels like money from elon musk come to why is that i just think that we all should just be a little more honest and all of this right now. And i do think donald trump is a threat to democracy. And the way that i want to stop donald trump from being a threat to democracy is defeating him at the ballot box. Not by asking anyone to assassinate him. That is not how we win in politics and democracy. That is what makes this so fragile in this moment. But i never said that donald trump was going to be a dictator until donald trump said he would be a dictator on day one. I know you're just not what happened. No. It's not what happened, but you know what's not what happened. That's not what happened, but views, watching the words, i guess what i'm just saying like what happened, nor did the bloodbath thing happened. But i've never said the bloodbath, but every everybody thing is that we just saw him call his opponent of fascist, should he do that? to the call is appointed a fascist. Listen, i think any if you want my answer to be noting your answer has to be known that we do that fashion party has done more in the last five years or restrict speech than every receipt in my mind. My entire lifetime, i remember i was an aclu proud member in college, carrie, that card proud aclu memory because at some point they stood for free speech and now with social media coming aboard, everybody is like, no, we need to have restrictions to speech. So yeah, i do believe fascist again, do you believe there's fascist tendencies and the democratic party when they tried to restrict letter flops and literally you can literally, you can have it both to say, oh, democrats need to stop saying that trump's a threat to democracy and also to cry, restricting speech. I mean, isn't that literally what you're doing? i'm not retired maj restricting. I mean, if you're saying that democrats should own, can only talk a certain way about trump, isn't that risk? no, no, i'm not telling you to restrict your speech. I'm saying let's be clear what's happening there. Speeches triggering mentally ill people to take action. Is it that we've seen in one assassination attempt where a bullet fleming we've seen another person that either, i think that's dangerous yeah. I mean, i i evidence there saying that anybody sitting at by specific by speech shockingly to me that we still don't really have any answers about the pennsylvania guy, but the guy in florida, i mean, it's it's pretty pretty evident what was going on in this guy's pretty not evident. I mean i'm asking you what is the evidence thing is when you're talking when you're talking about the same things about him that well, what is the evidence that he it was motivated by democrats, rhetoric, by, by biden or harris is rhetoric. You want to give him a pass on it that's fine i just i just want to consistency at some point, right. Like we were on television the other day and i made some parallels to the buffalo shooting where when you look back at the shooter at the grocery store, that shot i africanamericans. There were direct ties to a manifesto when you look at el paso, there were direct ties to the shooting at walmart that connected words that donald trump said. So i'm not i don't want to say that like all republicans are responsible for that person shooting. But like if this person is, if you want to say the person in florida is guilty because of democrats didn't like but it never is the other person. It never is like the el paso shooting and donald trump takes so i just want there to be some consistency. I just asked you to say like maybe your candidate shouldn't call his opponent of fascism. And instead of just agreeing, we could have had a byproducts of moment. You flip flopped and you just like weaseled out of the question and so you can't have an honest dialogue blog and the american people call it, they're calling bs on candidates, on us as pundants. And so let's just be we're going to want to play by the same rules. Then let's play by the same rules. But i don't the other thing you were mentioning about restricting social media at how many laws do you think there are restrictions on tech companies? just love you to tell me hundreds zero 00. So we're all these laws that you just need to defer. Well, listen literally just said a lot of words, all of which were untrue. There are no laws restricting speech online. In fact, there's one law section 230. That allows them to get away with let me ask you let me. Go let me go to kara. Let me go to your social media component. Question. Is in 2020, 2020, what did twitter not restrict the hunter biden laptop story was was made mistakes. They made a mistake and then also as a mistake restrict free speech is what you're saying not a mistake. It's a mistake to make. A mistake is what it was and it wasn't a restriction. It was a fundamental mistake elon musk is doing right now. He cuts things off all the time when he feels like it it's just this is what needed is interesting though, that this is becoming, i mean, i'm going to just play this j. D vance might because he makes the argument that trump assassination attempt was a form of censorship. Listen i don't believe in censorship. I don't believe in trying to shut people up. I believe in debating people. They want to throw him in prison. They want to kick them off social media. They want to do everything that they can to silence donald trump and they send that signal with every action that they take well, if you're trying to silence donald trump and you're sending the message, we have to do everything that we can to silence donald trump, a crazy person is eventually going to take that message to heart that's taking things to a whole other level. First of all, the use of the word they recently has really gotten out of control. There's no date. Okay. He can be specific, but they is sortf a dog whistle to conspiracy theories absolutely know that's, that's where it begins and ends and conspiracy theories or sort of at the heart of this. And again, we are part of what's happening and which we do not realize and are being taken advantage of all these efforts by foreign bodies that are trying to create this within us. And we are so easily we are so easily manipulated by that. And it's really something that we have to do something about including these recent investigations. I want to agree with this family yesterday. I do believe foreign actors are engaged in trying to sow discord and it's several and i think it happened this weekend when everybody is sprang to blame trump and vance for these springfield hoaxes. And now we have the governor of ohio telling us it's foreign actors calling this and i totally agree it's happening all know that we'll see, but you just twisted something that's actually again, what they you didn't say it or not, whatever the governor ohio said, i'm not going to put him in it's an expert on foreign influence. I'm sorry. He's an expert on this public safety the state j. D. Vance literally said i made it up and that's what they did. They took something, they took a conspiracy theory story, a story of what's going on in springfield, ohio isn't, is it very promising he's literally saying that foreign actors are calling in bomb threats and others are trying to agree with you and you won't even take it, but i won't because take one step back. Okay. Perhaps what people even know where springfield, ohio was if j. D. Vance hadn't made up a rumor about haitian immigrants eating cats like can we we agree that used to live there and what you're front we even be talking about it, if he hadn't started and scott, i mean, isn't i mean, i think the point that i'm trying to make that part is much more important than whether or not the bomb threats were called in at 7yearold called anywhere in america where a foreign entity, i think entities are calling into towns in america and scrambling that is a major problem will be doing that if i start, i think i think i think foreign is to her point. I agree. I think for now, constantly stepped up scramble is i totally i mean they certainly are and i guess they're getting a lot of fodder in our politics these days. Everyone stick around for us coming up next. 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Com rahel solomon in new york and this is cnn just in tonight during a michigan the town hall with donald trump, arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders, who once served as his press secretary and the white house, made this remark about vice president harris you can walk into a room like this where people cheer when you step onto the stage and you might think for a second that you're special then you go home and your kids remind you very quickly you're actually not that big of a deal. My sweet daughter reached joseph pats my shoulder and says, it's okay, mommy, one day you can be pretty to kids. Keep me humble. Unfortunately kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble analyst coleman hughes joins us in our fifth seed tonight coleman childless cat. No, you're not, you're not a childless cat lady. Never many answered on her children on novel ad, but they are doubling down on this really. I mean, i cannot understand what the rationale is this for this, i don't understand why he would want to alienate such a huge sector of the electorate grit with these kind of unwise comments. I think there's a way that you can support large families. There's a way that you can talk about the fact that the birth rate isn't decline, not just in america, but all around the world. And that's a huge problem. There's a way to talk about that without just gratuitously disrespecting people. And let's, let's let's be honest, most of these politicians have huge egos on both sides. A lot of people who get into politics or not humble and certainly having kids doesn't make you humble if you otherwise have a huge ego to begin with and also, i mean i don't understand the idea of making. I mean, the joke actually would have been really funny if she just left it as her daughter's comment why go that extra step? i don't know if my childless uterus was not on the bingo card of being a talking point for republicans in 2024, like the way that childless women is the the priority of their talking points from j. D vance to sarah huckabee sanders is just unnecessary. It doesn't make sense to me. I hope we can all agree. I'm the only woman sitting here at the table without children that like i am still a humble person. I still care about this country. I still can give back. I've been a public servant most of my life having children makes no one more better or less better than anyone. And you don't know people store worries. So you are not just insulting people because you think folks are making choices. You don't understand why they don't have parental cosplaying is shame of shameful. It's a shameful things to do and you don't have kids so that you can use them as a prop in order to tell it heinous remark about someone who actually is apparent to children. I have four kids, won only one of whom i had, and the other side adopted it's the idea that kamala harris is stepchildren, or not people she raised when all the parents are agreeing this is i don't know what else to do use parenting as a prop is the matter though, whether you're a parent, this that i think is deeper than just like cows comments. I mean, there are people on the right who do believe fundamentally that it's immoral to not have kids that that people women are being tricked into different during childhood. That's become part of the talking points. I mean, this conservative lawyer wilt chamberlain, right? as biden dropped out, he he posted this on x real simple under discsed reason why kamala harris shouldn't be president no children. I mean, is that a part of the political right that really needs to be addressed? yeah, i don't agree with this. Like having i have four kids do having four kids was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. And also having a step mother who raised me for a large portion of my life was also one of the greatest things that happened to me. So i understand the value of people who step in to other people's families and blend together and help raise children that aren't their own. So i don't love that. I in full disclosure, i've only seen the clip. I haven't seen if she says anything after what the full context of the remarks is but we also live in america and we're all free and we're all free to make choices about our lifestyles and about our family choices and so on and so forth. I think having families is wonderful. It may not be for everybody and some people may not be able to, and some people can't for various reasons. And i don't think anybody ought to be demonized for that. So my view is mike kind of republican party welcomes everyone. We do encourage families. We encouraged life. But we also encourage everybody to do what's best for themselves in their own personal situation and respect other people's choices. That's my view. Is this the time where i mentioned that ivf vote on capitol how that failed today because republicans voted against it that seems like a political layup that they could have just let it go, especially since trump, i mean you worked for the trump campaign. Trump has said he is the biggest supporter of ivf. He wants the government to subsidize it. Meanwhile, over on capitol hill, they can't even pass a bill giving women the right to have access to it. I listened schumer has his his bill for the day, but we know where the president trump's stance, he's made his position clear. He's willing to move the republic, the republican party, to him. But i do want to get back to sarah huckabee. Sanders is common to i2 was blessed to have a stepmother. I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be able to having normal conversations without a stepmother, so i found that fence that that comment to be actually offensive i don't know what more to say about them disappointed in sarah was saying that i'm sure about getting criticism from the campaign, but i have to sort of defense somebody who's a stepmom, it's a tough job. People step into that role. It's usually difficult dynamic. My mom excelled at it. I'm sure your mom excited. I'm sure are you excited? and we should reward that in sort of speak to that in a very high tone but i do agree with scott. You can choose what path you want to go, but trying to pin what senate republicans are doing with the schumer bill on president trump, president trump's position is clear. He supports ivf. He's willing to put pressure on insurance companies. It's not the conservative position that i'm used to sort of not an economic position that that the old republican party is used to, but the parties moving to where he is and you'll see this vote today. But i'm pretty sure if you would take this vote when he's in the presidency, it'd be about that pass all right. I'm going to give us it's gonna be a different bill. It's not it's the details are always the devil is always in the details. If you look at the details of his bills it's not just straight up. Ivf is other things. Its cloning, it's all these other things that sort of make republicans say we're not, we're comfortable with ivf. But why you load it up with a bunch of poison pills, litchis to ivf. What about the immigration bill? well the immigration bill seems like whenever there's an opportunity to actually govern on issues that republicans say they support. They don't actually govern and pass them like an immigration bill that donald trump gets on the phone and calls people. It says no. But then on immigration, he silent. I mean, he could have called and said support it. You know, how bills were going to be, they could a reworked the bill they could have done, a lot of stuff. They just didn't j. D. Vance, me michel. But schumer's not trying to govern here, correct? these show votes. It's common happens all the time in the and the house republicans do it democrats do it. Brian's right. There are things in this bill that republicans don't want to support but also the platform of the republican party right now is set by our nominee, who is a strong supporter of ivf in fact, wants to pay for some of which even makes me squeamish as a fiscal conservative. But that's his position. And that's our platform. And democrats have lied about it this entire campaign and they really should stop well, there are two agree, there are some senators up for reelection. This we are disagreeing, didn't vote. There are some senators up for reelection. You're, your nominee may set the agenda, but senators also has won reelection and they did not vote. So i say to america, if you have a senator up for reelection, who was a republican, i didn't vote then take your cues from them. Do you agree or disagree that it would be responsible to acknowledge trump's clear and unwavering position shan on this because harris won't do it. I know you will because you're not as person and your good commentator. Harris won't do it. She continues to lie about it. Trump has never equivocated on this one minute well, he started to talk about it after an alabama supreme the right thing. And in that moment, he did the right thing. I think the thing that is so concerning is this inconsistency on reproductive justice, which is why i later donald trump. This is also, i mean you know, we won't know until we know. But the question is, i think this is question actually is getting at, is, is trump going to put his political weight behind this when push comes to shove, right now, it's ivf is what's happening here is each side is using it as part of a thing to do something and nothing's going to happen until the elections over to speak clear. So it doesn't matter what they put up. It's going to be a fight over every single issue. Go forward. But it's the saint. Saint be said about all of harris is positions, is it just theater that she's abandon ship on everything? i think i think the same can and should be said about harris's positions the proof is in the pudding. Will they put their political weight behind it? i also just want to note, i just credit where it's due at the table here. Pretty unanimous condemnation of those comments by sarah huckabee sanders. 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Our private wealth managers learned about you first, don't sett to 90 now or visit us at gory law. Com right bundle at the nabj pressed vice president kamala harris on policies from guns to the war in gaza, but many of her answers lacked specifics and some democrats like hillary clinton told kara swisher that that's perfectly fine. So he does not have to do it. Kara, i'm going to just cut to the chase. In fact, she's put out policies on her campaign website. Anybody who's truly interested can go and read about them. Showing referenced policies. She actually doesn't just have policies and concept. She has plans about what to do. I think it's a it's a double standard and it's a doublestandard that is partly because they are still getting to know her, but also because there is still grappling with the idea like, oh am i really? we're going to vote for a woman to be president and commander in chief spoken like a woman who's been there, who had a lot of policies and didn't get any credit for it? yeah, she did have a lot of policies. I'm not sure i agreed with her when she said that it was interesting, fair to say it because it was i think she was talking strategically politically is that she doesn't have to say too much. I think probably most people agree they should, should say more because as audie cornish of this network said, a lot of people are calm while curious. And if you look at the statistics, i think kiersten talked about them last night person did that people want to know more from kamala harris may do they know donald trump and they don't know enough that's right. I think that's part of the reason it seems like there there's an unfair double standard. Sure. Sometimes there can be a fair double standard in the sense that people know how trump is going to govern at least they have quite a considerable idea because he governed for four years kamala harris is record is only as an attorney, so it makes sense that people would want to hear more about what her plans are and that the burden might be higher for i think the political i think i think the political danger and doing nothing or just tossing word salads, which she did all day today. And has an most of her public interactions is that without any more specifics about what she would do, i think an assumption will be made by many voters that she'll be simply a continuation of what joe biden is doing. And if i were in her shoes, i would not want to carry that burden because what he has been doing is not popular. So if i were in their shoes, i'd be thinking about charting my own course. I still think she's going to have to look into a tv camera and say, he did these two or three things wrong here. So i would do it differently. Here's how i mean, she keeps saying it's a new generation of leadership, but it just seems like she wants to do what biden is doing, but just do it in a younger body. And that's not going to be enough for voters to be said about whether or not she will have to explain what the shift is going to be because voters are looking to see which candidates is going to be a candidate of change. To scott's point, i do want to just play what she said today just to give people a taste of how she answered some of these questions, particularly about the economy a question that has been asked of you and everybody that's on the democratic side is whether or not voters are better off now than they were four years ago. Are they better off now than they were four years ago we came in during the worst public health epidemic in centuries. We came in after the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war and a lot of it due in large part to the mismanagement by the former president as it relates to covid and obviously january 6 and we had done a lot of work to do to clean up a mess as of today, we have created over 16 million new jobs, over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs we have the lowest black unemployment rate in generations you know what i wanted to do, right when she finishes that is then say and the next four years, what i will do when she answers the question, she has to do three things and one answer just to do some biographical work, she has to say the policy that she is going to do and she also has to draw the contrast. That's a lot to do. And what answer really have to do all that she does not all in what answer. I mean, i think there's something instructive about this and i just want to be just to be totally transparent because i don't want people accusing us of cutting her off the very beginning of her answer, she thanked the audience, nabj, for hosting her. That is why we cut to the part where she actually answers the question however, i mean, this is at the heart of what voters want to know about her she should have something that is really quick and understandable that wasn't really a yes or do three things i agree actually, there's one other thing. Answer the question. She got the same question at the debate and you know what else why i went back and watched the debate again, every single policy question she got at the debate she totally ignored and never to answered why is it that why is it that she believes she does not have to answer to journals who are asking pretty basic questions over. Think again, we started this conversation about being honest on september 17, 2020, we weren't even in studios because we were in a global pandemic. People were terrified, black people were losing their lives at covid, at higher rates than their white counterparts essential workers were on the front line putting their life on the line every single day, doctors had bruises on their face because we didn't have enough ppp and family. They were being cheered out of a hospital and that was under donald trump. Are you know, calls the pandemic and no, i'm saying he was the leader who mismanaged is so win win because we've had this conversation before bleach in arms, lack of ppe for what for now the question the question the vaccine saying at hitter off, are you better off? i just want people to remember what four years ago was. I think more of the point. I mean, she does have to she has to be specific while being vague. And that's a very difficult thing to pull off. One of the things it's important is to point out the united states is a roaring success right now across the world, china is a hot mess. Europe is struggling all the the us, if you compare it to everyone else, isn't an astonishing position in terms of economic growth and everything else. The problem is people don't feel it. And so she has to address people not feeling what's actually happening and also address people who aren't benefitting from the stock market, which is at alltime highs doing it. Is also, you know why people are feeling what wiped out everything. They're not feeling. They aren't feeling it because some people are benefiting from this growth. In some people aren't. And so she's got to address those different. He said there was an interesting thing wiped out by the biden/harris inflation. It was by politico that it's intentional for her to do these interviews. And not have they're not being really any takeaways. She stays on script she answers based on what they prepped her to answer i mean, is that a strategy that might work for her? i think whoa, news is good. I think that's right. I think if i put my campaign adviser hat on theory. I would say if an ain't broke, don't fix it. What has worked for kamala harris is literally to not make headlines, to give vague but presidential sounding answers to questions and allow voters to project. The image of who they hope she is onto her. Now, as an american citizen, i would like to be be assured that she has super competent on foreign policy. What's your plan on russia and ukraine? what's your plan on the middle east? these are the things i really want to know. She knows how to do, but i don't know if it's actually the best purely from a winning strategy point of view, because she does tend to get into trouble when she answers off the cuff, she can be a gaffe machine she and when she's unprepared and so forth, i would add if she doesn't if she's not going to fill her own space, we're going to fill it for her. We're going to define her as a san francisco liberal that's outside the mainstream. And you see that happening over and over again. So her lack of you've been ambiguous being specific enough, you give us the opportunity to find and it's not just going to say you're not doing a very good look. So the polls, she's actually defined by extreme candidate in the race. She's actually donald trump is defined as the change as well. Okay. Let's let's the plan we're going to we like to end the segment, i guess on some facts. Let's put up the abc ipsos poll people like you, 43% say harris, 33% say trump. 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Right now, he is worth about 250 billion. But there's a research group that says that he's now how on track to break that 13 digit threshold by 2027 coleman your take. My take is that i think i think the media is too hard on elon musk because of all his bad tweets. And i get it. His tweets or bad but i think sometimes we in the media lack perspective. If you think 100 years from now, are historians and our progeny more generally, are they going to care more about all the stupid tweets? he said, or are they going to cry about the fact that, you know, he accelerated the ad widespread advent of electric cars, which was huge for climate change, probably five or ten years earlier than it would have that he basically took us back to space just today. The fda cleared a breakthrough treatment that could potentially restore blindness to people that have been blind their whole lives. I mean, this is a lot for a single lifetime, so more than i could afford was a great guy. I think you could say it about a lot of people and you know, he, this guy has positives as you know, i think i probably interviewed more than anybody and it's done in this donnish enough stuff around evs and around space and other things with the help of a lot of people by the way the government and the government 18 points 5 billion in government contracts right now alone that saved tesla at the time, even as he trashes the government he will have a mixed record, i think. And unfortunately because of twitter and what he's doing there, he is tarnishing was a really an astonishing array of of achievements. And that's unfortunate for him and overpromising and underdelivering daisies so first of all, i think coleman, you make a actually a pretty strong case for yourself and ocheret disagrees. But one of the things about elon musk's tweets is that it suggests like a deeper instability when you've got somebody who has the power to control a lot of things, not just acts, but starlink. He has a lot of power in the ukraine, russia war in terms of just the information flow, you have to wonder, i mean, is this guy really stable? because he's stable? yeah i mean, i shouldn't have a global worry. I mean, this is very powerful, he is very powerful. And i tend to lean more where we're coleman is on this, i think. And i'm not an expert on the industries that he's in to the extent that you are, i will tell you this though, whenever i turned on the television, i see where those rockets landing on its own back on the pad. It's cool as hell. And then i realized the government's asked him to rescue our astronauts next year, i'm thinking obviously this guy plays a role in our society that i think is often diminished by his political opponents. So i think i'm where you are, but he does it to himself. Come on. He was he by by what he's doing around twitter because he can't help himself because he has, he has a problem with it. He just can't stop it. I think he's veering into another person who had actually compare him do which is howard hughes, who did enormous, astonishing things around aerospace, aerospace, but airlines and aviation astonishing, interesting entrepreneur of a different era. And of course his mania and everything else. A lot of problems that he had left that on the carpet, unfortunately, now of course there is still this u. S aircraft and other things like that. And he contributed i just think unfortunately someone who had such promise is there could be real troubles around tesla. There could be real, he's not putting the focus where it needs to be, which is it's on these issues and not for nothing. I mean, the idea of a trillionaire. I don't think it's going to be how many others? i think it'll be an a. I i. Mean, there's nothing would be a very wealthy but that just seems like an insane amount of money think is an important case so if you're looking at that economic success, you really can't do without the federal government they backstopped everything. They basically handed nath, nasa the elon. He's doing our scientists, there's a lot of good things happening, but it's a lot of government interaction. Can't believe i'm senate as a republican, it's not governments made a lot governors, middle so warrants in that very last write, a lot of people get a lot of people get government contracts, not a lot of people can start company after company after company that revolutionized all these different industries. And if the most important movers and shakers throughout history had twitter's, i think we'd be disappointed by more questions. You know, the name gwynne shotwell? no. No. She's running explains yes. Sachs actually this problem with the elon is everyone attributes everything to him. Did he found tesla know he did not like the thing. I would i would like to see is that they're gwynne shotwell is the reason spacex is so successful. You'd never see her, but she's critical and there's a lot of people at tesla is that the people who founded tests and snares martin eberhard there's all kinds of people involved in, unfortunately, because of the great man theory of industrial, also very good at finding talent. That is true so it was steve jobs, but i can tell you steve jobs certainly wouldn't have behaved all right. 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And it made me wonder what is it about the biden administration that would say to israel, maybe not tell these people. So i just want my hot take is good job. Israel and what is going on that they don't think the united states is trustworthy to be honest, something as cool. It's called plausible deniability. I mean that's going and going on with israel and the united states for alarm saying kara, i bet we did know i would never compliment mark zuckerberg or meta. I tend not to and i don't never but today they did this week. They don't two things that are really important and responsible. One is cutting off rt on the platform. It is a propaganda organization. Its leader has talked about this and was part of the bribery scandal that's going on right now with certain podcasters in this country. And the payments that they made to them and they cut them off. Youtube is starting to do the same. And so they're taking responsibility for what is clearly four propaganda, flooding into our country. I thought that was great secondly, they finally put some restrictions on teen accounts, and that's a really critical thing giving not just parents jewels, but by default, making it so teens or not being able to be contacted. And they are restricted in what they can see critically important should have happened a decade ago. Very notable. All right. Coleman so there's this idea going around that calling kamala harris by her first name is sexist because people do this to women, but not two men. I think this is importantly mistaken. First, i think people call her kamala because people tend to use the politicians name that's more unique and more distinctive. Harris is not very distinctive. Remember people called beta but we'll work beto, they didn't call him or rourke. People. All amy klobuchar. Klobuchar. Right? and i think kamala is blessed with a really cool really distinctive first name. She should lean into it and so should her admirers, they just need to say it, right? all right. That's fair enough. Brian. Yeah. A couple weeks ago i brought the message that mercedes and bmw is are showing up at war omar, it's they're trying to stretch their dollar today. I bring up food banks in wisconsin that are suffering. They have tremendous shortage, their suffering as this economic message, this harris is trying to answer. She's not delivering. You go to wisconsin more than one food banks in the areas in key districts, there shortages and that's just an example of the biden/harris administration on my hot take is is that the food banks wouldn't be he wouldn't be surprised that on election day those precincts went republican, leading indicator, perhaps we'll see ashley, this has nothing to do with politics, but give us introverts a break, okay? man, i'm overall of you introvert. I've overwhelmed with people right now. I've met my capacity going election time you have to go to every event, every gala, just give us a weekend off people, please. Yes. You know what canceled plans
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