And republicans over what everyone can accept in this package. We didnt think we would get some type of final agreement before Congress Left town last thursday evening for their weeklong long memorial day break. Lawmakers and the white house were able to come to an agreement last thursday midday after the house had already taken their final roll call vote. A lot of house members had already left for the airports or for their cars to drive back to their districts. Its important for members to get back in whole town halls with their constituents and hold fundraisers and see their families. The idea is once this disaster aid package was reached last was a vote and the house leadership had to decide whether they wanted to pass this through unanimous consent during a pro forma session or weight until monday wait until monday. House democrats decided to do it through uc, unanimous consent. Any member of the house is more than 400 nevers can stand up and block it members can stand up and block it. Host Debbie Wasserman schultz tweeting out a single republican blocks the Disaster Relief bill that would provide critical support to our still recovering communities. Where is this money supposed to go . What is the impact of the hold up . Guest one of the things i want to say from the top is that if you are in one of the areas of the country experiencing these tornadoes or floods, the first on the ground federal relief is the fema Disaster Relief fund. That fund has billions of dollars. Its completely fine. Its not like the federal government isnt able to show up and start helping out. What this 19 billion package is supposed to do is help communities impacted by the 2017 hurricanes, the 2018 storms and wildfires and the first few Severe Weather events weve had in 2019. Theres a decent amount of money in here, billions of dollars, for farmers and rural areas who lost crops and livestock. Theres money to rebuild military bases. Theres money for the army corps of engineers to help them do mitigation projects that are supposed to reduce the impact of Severe Weather in the future. Theres some community develop and block grants to help people rebuild their homes and infrastructure that may have been washed out by storms or destroyed by tornadoes. Host this is what Jennifer Shutt was just talking about. 900illion to farmers, Million Dollars for Recovery Efforts in puerto rico. No money for border operations. This past the senate 858. Senate, 858. Some republicans are saying we need this money. Here, easterners and central parts of the country, 2027488000. Mountain and pacific, 2027488001. If youve been impacted by one of these natural disasters, 2027488002. We want to hear from you this morning. What is the white houses response . Guest the white house hasnt had any particularly strong response. President donald trump hasnt weeded out anything about this tweeted out and thing about this. Said it isonway mostly that these republicans are objecting to the process. They feel there should be a recorded vote. They dont like the idea of passing it through unanimous consent. I spoke with chip roy, the first republican to vot block this, and the second republican to block this. They object to other things as well. They have concerns about the debt and spending. This does not include the money the white house requested to address the surge in migrants on the mexican border. That is an Issue Congress knows they need to come to a conclusion on. It was originally supposed to be in the package. It was dropped at the last minute because lawmakers wanted to get the disaster aid package through. Agree that the price tag is too high and there should be offsets to it . If it is past next week when Congress Returns passed next week when Congress Returns, what is the process for getting the money to these states . Guest it goes to several different agencies. They all have their own processes. Weve been looking at the Community Development block grant program, which is run through housing and urban development. It has a few structural issues. Thats one of the things lawmakers are hoping to clear up in this disaster aid package. They did a series of three different disaster aid bills after the 2017 hurricanes and andfires to help texas puerto rico start to recover. A lot of that was Community Development block grant funding. They are designed to help people whose homes could be couldnt through rebuilt insurance or fema grants. One of the issues with that program, it is not permanently authorized by congress. Every time a disaster aid bill passes, hud has to issue new guidelines, print those in the federal register. States have to come up with how they want to spend this money. They have to submit financial controls and an action plan and another plan to hud they have to agree on. The backandforth can take months. In this case, it has taken several months. John cornyn from texas has given a few floor speeches on this. The hope is when this disaster aid bill gets signed into law, it will speed up that process so these can spend down billions of dollars that have been sitting around. Host bob is our first caller. Good morning to you. Aboutuestion or comments this disaster a debate here in washington . Guest theres already money caller theres already money available for disaster. Availableready money for disasters. Host you dont think washington should be spending an additional 19 billion . Caller they have been spent what they have havent spent what they have. Host federal money hasnt reached disaster victims. Guest there are lots of different accounts the federal government uses to respond to natural disasters. Ground ison the femas Disaster Relief fund. They havent spent all the money. Thats a good thing. If femas fund was in the low millions, we would have a serious problem on our hands. They need that money to quickly respond when a tornado touches down or a community floods. Broadly considered a good thing. They have disaster aid loans they can get to help Small Businesses recover afterwards. Communityds Development Block grant program. Theres funding through the department of agriculture to help farmers. If a tornado destroys your , this is important to the community. Some programs have smaller balances than others. That is Something Congress debates through the appropriation process. Host what if the holdup was the president s insistence that not as much money be included in this for puerto rico . How much has puerto rico received since Hurricane Maria . How much money do they get under this legislation . What is the status of disaster aid for the island . Guest i dont necessarily have a final dollar amount. Theres so many different accounts, its hard to keep track of. In the three previous disaster aid bills, through the community develop anment block grant program, frederico was post received 20 billion puerto rico was supposed to receive 20 billion. They have to go through that process. Whichever agency is handling that for the municipality or the state, they have to apply. All these different financial controls, this has been a slow process. That is something lawmakers are concerned about. It is supposed to be cleared up by this disaster aid bill. Additional 600 million for nutrition assistance. That is something both sides agreed to pretty early on. President trump was on board with that. There was a lot of behind the scenes negotiating between lawmakers and the white house how to include additional block grants to help people who still have housing issues recover and still help with the massive infrastructure issues that are still unresolved or not fixed completely after these two hurricanes devastated the island. Host indiana. Good morning to you. Wondering whyjust we send so much money over to a foreign country instead of helping people around here. , you coverfer shutt budget and appropriations. Can you explain the percentage of foreign aid of our total budget . How much does disaster aid makeup of that budget . Can you give us an idea . Guest typically, theres two pots of money the federal government spends every year. One of those pots is mandatory. Trillion mandatory spending on autopilot unless congress does a massive bill to change how those programs are run. The other portion is discretionary spending. Thats about 1. 3 trillion. That is determined by congress and the white house every year through 12 annual spending bills. One of those bills is the state foreign operations spending bill. It doesnt have a high allocation. We dont spend a substantial amount of money on foreign aid and foreign countries. On thes a broader debate umbrella of money spent outside of the United States. We have bases around the world, troops deployed around the world, lots of military contractors working on research and development. One could argue either way whether that is domestic spending more international spending. Most soldiers are american citizens. If you consider that domestic spending or foreign spending is probably a contentious debate. Host where does disaster aid fall into those pots of money . Is that discretionary or completely outside of those two classifications . Guest one of the 12 annual spending bills is the Homeland Security spending bill and fema is housed under the Homeland Security department. When that bill gets brought up in the house and senate , thats where that debate would take place. The Disaster Relief fund is not typically an area of contention. Theres a formula used to determine how much it should get every year. Obviously, lawmakers could plus that up if they want to. Its based on how much they spend in previous fiscal years. Host this isnt considered emergency spending . Guest this is emergency spending. This is not one of the 12 annual appropriation bills. These come up from time to time when we have Severe Weather. We had a 1. 1 billion spending funding for student health. The cdc got some money to address the issues as he got zika issues. Congress will try to offset it a bit. In situations like this, they might not. Host jordan in north carolina. Caller i agree with the caller from florida saying they are spending too much money on these federal disasters. President that is probably concerned about that. I wanted to get her thoughts on that. We will go to john in pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller yes. I wanted to comment about we had a flood here about three years ago. The money they used out of their people, theyve been getting their money back from the federal government for their homes. They made them demolish all the houses and they didnt get their assessment value on the homes. To rebuild some of them that they could rebuild, they could get a small loan. I dont think its used properly, the funds they get. The state uses the money for the roads and stuff. They gave them money for the flood control, but they didnt get their money for the people for the houses they destroyed. Host can you explain how need is determined for disaster aid funding . Guest theres a lot of different formulas the different agencies use for this. Fema is typically the first one out of the gate that determines where the funding goes and how much each community gets. They are sort of the food, clothing and shelter response. One of the things that is important to note in a situation like this, if youre a homeowner, your insurance policy, you have to get the Flood Insurance program on that. That is something weve seen in a lot of these situations. The homeowner will get the regular policy. You are to make sure also getting the national Flood Insurance program. Thats one of the things weve seen time and time again in these disaster zones. People dont have Flood Insurance. They are really relying on nonprofit groups or state and federal government to help them rebuild. These community develop and block grants are important because thats one of the broad help states can use to rebuild these homes. If you have electrical problems or mold that needs to be addressed, thats what these programs are designed for, to help these people rebuild their lives, essentially. Host he doesnt think they are being used wisely. Does the government monitor how the money is spent . Can they recoup the money if its not spent appropriately . Guest im not sure. On the first question, yes, there very close monitoring theres very close monitoring. Every federal department has an office of the inspector general. These are the watchdogs to determine whether or not an agency is wasting money. One thing we track closely is they follow this money and aboutssue reports talking how this aid was used and where improvements need to be made. Theres definitely people watching how this is done. The lawmakers and their staff, they all follow this closely. They dont want to have a big scandal where money is being spent unwisely. Host that brings up puerto rico. Republicans have said they are concerned that puerto rican officials have not proven they will spend this money effectively. Guest that was part of the debate. This are guardrails in 19. 1 billion disaster aid bill that would make sure theres additional oversight provisions on puerto rico. That is something everyone came to agreement on. It was not particularly contentious. Host larry in st. Charles, missouri. Go ahead. Caller ive been through the constitution and ive been unable to find anything that permits the federal government to have disaster aid. Id appreciate if some but he could point that out to me. Guest the power of the purse rests with congress. They have the Legal Authority under the constitution to tax and spend. This is spending. Host tommy in tennessee. Caller good morning, ladies. To followup up on that previous question, is money moved from one agency to another . Do we borrow the money from china or whoever . Acquiredhe money being to distribute to the states . Guest this bill, thats one of the objections these three republicans have made, they are concerned that this bill is not offset. We are not moving money from one account to Disaster Relief accounts. Y are adding this would concerned this would add a 19 billion to the debt. The deficit right now is a bit under 1 trillion for the last fiscal year. Its a very basic revenue and spending like anyone does in their personal finances. Relative. How much taxes, how much revenue is coming into the treasury and how much is going out. Itsry round numbers, about 3 trillion coming in, for trillion dollars going out 4 trillion going out. Host clarksburg, West Virginia. Frank. What happened in West Virginia . 2016. this goes back to the southern part of the state, it was really, really bad. Fema, fromart is, what i understand, there was 3. 5 million sent down there. This is richwood, West Virginia. They only spent 400,000 to help the people. If you go onto the site for the state auditor here, they had where under indictment 3. 5 million was stolen. Its just crazy. Theres other towns in west getinia still fighting to their homes built after they were tore down. Shouldnton is people steal money for disasters. Look that up. Have a good day. Host phyllis in fort lauderdale. Caller hi. Say the United States government needs to make sure this money is being spent properly on the things that it should be spent on. Theres a lot of corruption in puerto rico. It is taxpayer money. I want to make sure theres someone looking out for this money. Host Jennifer Shutt talked about the guardrails put into this 19 billion disaster aid package to oversee those funds going to artery go put a recoat puerto rico. A democrat from maryland was in the speakers chair yesterday lonethe loan republican republican blocked this aid from the unanimous consent vote. [video clip] we dont think anyone should be playing games with Disaster Relief. We have americans facing cataclysmic conditions across the country because of these extreme weather events. Bedont think they should playing parliamentary games with it. I heard it was about them wanting to build funding for the wall through Disaster Relief legislation. That doesnt fit. This is for Disaster Relief, people suffering from hurricanes and droughts and earthquakes and so on. It has nothing to do with the wall. The Congress Already rejected spendesidents request to tens of billions of dollars on the wall. Bes not appropriate to fingerpainting on this legislation. The floodot object to insurance legislation. So, that is important legislation, too. I dont really see the rhyme or reason there. Host what stands out to you . Guest putting border wall funding on this was never part of the discussion. The part of the discussion hes referring to, the trump supplementaln sent funding requests to congress on may 1. They were asking for additional resettlement,gee dealing with these unaccompanied children coming across the border, taking care of them. One of the things weve heard through the last month, democrats and republican broadly that helping these children is a humanitarian crisis. It is something they need to find additional funding for. Thesefice taking care of children is very close to running out of money. If that happens, theyve said they will pull money from different accounts. That is not ideal. Lawmakers were trying to add additional funds to address the situation to the disaster aid bill. Because they cannot get final agreement on the oversight leg thursday, everyone agreed to just pass the peer disaster aid bill. Lastersight language, last thursday, everyone agreed to just past the bill. Disaster aid who went friend through Hurricane Sandy the federal Flood Insurance program said they werent responsible, even though the family had to flee their home. They said it wasnt due to flood, it was due to wind. The Insurance Company wouldnt pay because they said it was due to flood and wasnt covered by property insurance. She had to borrow what money she 401 k and take on credit card debt. The home was worth far less than her mortgage. That drove her into bankruptcy and ruined their lives. Someone should look at the federal Flood Insurance program. Whenever you have two insurance companies, they point the finger at each other. It was so devastating for my friend. Host Jennifer Shutt . Guest this is one of the issues congress does regularly look at. Was a twoweeks extension for the national Flood Insurance program. Biggerll need to do a reauthorization. Solution is to probably call your congressperson, your senators. There are people in those offices designed to do constituent service. They may be able to help with that. It sounds pretty horrible. Host kevin in roseville, new jersey. Caller good morning. Yess just calling to say and thank jennifer for explaining these issues. The key word here is help. Im surprised these republicans are doing what they are doing to helpthis disaster aid to people who need it. I want to thank jennifer for explaining. End Jennifer Shutt, lets with going over what happens next. Guest the house and senate are both scheduled to return on monday. The senate will be holding votes around 6 30. House this bill will come up. It has broad bipartisan support. It is expected to pass the house. President trump has said that he plans on signing it. This tactic just elated by a little over a week delayed it by a little over a week. It delayed the aid by a few days. Agencies and departments could have started using it this past week. Eek long delay is not theyve been negotiating for months. In that context, not a particularly long amount of time. If you a farmer waiting for reimbursement, im sure this isnt something m watch commencement speeches all week on cspan. Tonight at 8 00 eastern, speakers include Supreme CourtJustice Sonya Sotomayor at Manhattan College in the bronx. Businesswoman and philanthropist cindy mccain delivers remarks at George Washington universitys school of international affairs. 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