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Debate on reopening schools amid the coronavirus pandemic. At 8 30 american conservative , union chair matt schlapp on campaign 2020 and President Trumps reelection strategy. Host good morning, this is the washington journal for july 21. You are looking at scenes from portland last night, between a local police and people protesting against balance on africanamericans. It is the latest scenes that have prompted the Trump Administration to send officers to places like portland and seattle. In our first hour, we will show you more of what the president said about the process and get your thoughts on whether you agree or disagree with the deployments. 2027488000,call if you disagree, 2027488001, you can text us at 2027488003 or tweet us cspanwj. Websiteonian on their discusses a bit of the events from yesterday. This story saying parent groups marched in droves monday night to join the protests in response to repeated and nicely use of force by federal agents on demonstrators. They first started protesting Police Violence against black americans in may, and it was 31 days later that federal officers demonstrations. In the weeks since, they have used live munitions and gas on protesters. They have used lesslethal munitions and gas on protesters numerous times. The actions have drawn scrutiny from oregon officials and support from President Trump. Lawpresident praised enforcement on monday, saying they were doing a fantastic job, saying that he planned to replicate the response in other cities led by democratic mayors. One of those cities where those forces might be sent is chicago. The headline of the Chicago Tribune yesterday, the president expects to send the forces to chicago. Homelandhat the security investigation agents are said to assist federal Law Enforcement and Chicago Police in efforts according to sources familiar with the matter, though a specific plan on what they would be doing and what limits would be have not made public. On the overall topic of the use of these agents, the president addressing the topic yesterday and giving his thoughts on it. [video clip] reporter on portland and other cities expressing violence, there was a report out this morning that you are considering sending 175 federal troops to these cities to help with local Law Enforcement. Pres. Trump depends what your definition of troops is. We are sending Law Enforcement. Portland was out of control. The liberal democrats running the place had no idea what they were doing. Foere ripping down 50r one days destroying the city, looting it. And what of corruption was going on there is incredible. Then a governor comes out we dont need any help. How about chicago . Werent the numbers many People Killed over the weekend. We are looking at chicago, too. Were looking at new york. Look at what is going on. , itrun by liberal democrats really by radical left. We cant let this happen to the cities. New york was up 348 , the crime wave, so the governor has to do something about it. If he doesnt do something about it, we will do something about it. I love new york. Look at what is going on over there. The woman who was shot because she said, could you please not light out firecrackers them and they shot her a times and she died . Best eight times and she died . That is not civilization. That is not us. I know the police very well. New yorks finest. The fact is they are restricted from doing anything. Anything. Do reporter so, what are you planning to do . Pres. Trump i will do something. We are not going to let new york, chicago, philadelphia, detroit, baltimore, all of these oakland is a mess we are not going to let it happen in this country. Democrats. Host we will show your reaction from leaders across the United States on this, but for the first hour, we will get your it. S on 2027488000 if you agree with the deployment of these troops, 2027488001 if you disagree. Inude starts us off, portland. He disagrees with what is going on. Good morning. Guest thank you very much caller thank you very much. I just got back from portland. Very crazy night. Fedse in wheelchairs, the did not care, they just gas to them. I have they just gassed them. I have the footage on my phone. Host how could you tell they were federal officers . Caller theyd come overland uniforms on. They have been all over the news , you can definitely tell that. T is them it literally was starting to slow down, and the feds coming in did not help one bit. I worked literally 14 hours yesterday and still went out there for three hours after work , i was out there for four hours today. It is definitely getting people back out on the street. Trump needs to take his troops back home. Host is it fair to say there was less conflict between protesters like yourself and local police there . Caller it was actually very peaceful. Ofre was some destruction wooden barriers, they were setting it on fire, but that was about it. Host seattle, washington is one of those places that got scrutiny. James in seattle is on our disagree line. Youre up next. Caller this is a trial run for invokestion when trump the posse, taught us statute when you are not supposed to deploy federal troops on federal soil. What is he going to do around the election time . He is going to bring the troops up and intimidate people in the voting stations. This is illegal. When they stormed the michigan steakhouse. Host back to the seattle situation. Describe the level of conflict you saw and why you think federal forces were not needed there. Caller we have Police Forces. When people have guns and things in lase bundy boys vegas, when they had the guns in the statehouses. In seattle, the police force, that is what their job is, to handle these situations, not to bring in federal troops. This is dictatorship, what trump is doing. Host ok. For those who agree with the deployment, this is bill in wilmington, North Carolina. Hi. Caller hi. Let me say, i am definitely in favor of peaceful protest. I have nothing against that. But when you are doing the damage that i see done and the sorry, and stuff, im any interruption from normal commerce, there is no excuse for that. I will send anybody in and do anything i could to quell that. To be perfectly honest with you, i would like to see a cop like dirty harry on every street corner. Host why not let the local authorities take care of this . Caller are they taking care of it . From what i see, it is a most like their hands are tied. Host what the think the federal forces add to it then, if they are not taking care of it . If the state police cant take care of it . Caller maybe the local governments in my opinion seem to have the police the police have their hands tied. Cops getting frozen bottles of water thrown at them and sticks, i am sorry, i would start shooting. I am sorry, but i would. Host mike in North Carolina also agrees with this move. Hello. Caller good morning. Pretty much on the same page as the previous caller. Number one, the word troops, they are not troops. Ofse are not armed forces the military, these are federal peace officers. Whatever. Of f. B. I. , we have a variety of agencies, almost every agency in the federal government has their own what we havees, so been watching for the last several months, it is just out of control. You have got the chief of police of chicago he sent a letter to President Trump, ok . What cant we let local police handle it . Like the previous caller said, their hands are being tied by democratic politicians, with governors and mayors that dont want anything done. I firmly believe that it is political. When you have got the chief of police in the city in this country that rings in the highest death count every weekend because they cant city, writingown a personal letter to President Trump saying, we need help, ok, i dont remember the acronym or the name of the organization, but it is the National Organization for Police Officers, they didnt endorse anybody in 2016, they didnt 2008 and thena in theyt obama in 2012 have not endorsed President Trump. What does that tell you . There are obvious signals out there. Country inross the places like new york, chicago, seattle, portland, look at the amount of resignations and early retirements being taken by Police Officers. Mayor de blasio had to put a cap on the number of retirements and resignations the allowed because these Police Departments are being decimated because the politicians are not supporting the Police Officers. They are being left to dangle own. Here on their host that is mike in North Carolina. To that letter the gentleman described, there is a story from chicago from the head of the fraternal order of Police Appealing to the president to help in addressing what he described as chaos. The president of the lodge writing the letter in which he criticized the mayor, Lori Lightfoot, as a complete failure. Lightfoot is either unwilling or unable to here. In a Law Enforcement i would be willing to sit down anytime and discuss ideas about how we can bring civility back chicago. Reets of these politicians are failing the good men and women of this city and the police department. Terry is next from oregon, on the disagree line. Caller thanks, pedro. Well, i called on the opposed line. Live after eugene, a little bit over an hour and a half from portland, and i want to tell you something, i am very surprised. I watch every morning and every morning we get people calling in the constitution. Troops, you support unidentified troops acting at the behest of our commanderinchief, then you dont know the cause edition. He is not to turn our troops against the people. I heard the one caller say, these are not troops yes they are. They have guns. They are acting as the military. I am totally against it. I think the commanderinchief is out of control and i can hardly wait for him to get out of office. Host aside from that, what the think of the ability of portland itself to take care of the situation . Caller portland is our city. It is our state. We are taking care of it. And iftaking care of it we needed help, we would have asked for it. Governor kate brown is an well, it governor wouldnt say excellent, but she is good. She represents the people in her decisions, i can say for sure. Host that is terry in oregon. Lets hear from the portland mayor, ted wheeler on cnn on sunday talking about the presence of those agents in his city. [video clip] thousands if not hundreds of federal troops in our city. They are sharply escalating the situation, their presence here is actually leading to more violence and more vandalism, and it is not helping the situation at all. They are not wanted here. In fact, we want them to leave. The aclu filed a lawsuit against the Trump Administration friday night, as did your state general. She accused federal agents of an escalation of fear and violence. Do youthink the trumpet administration is breaking the law in your city . I absolutely do. The tactics of the forces are using in the streets of portland our apartment. People are being literally scooped off the street into unmarked vans. They are being denied probable cause and they are denied due process. They dont even know who is putting them into the vans. The people are not identifying themselves. As far as i can see, this is unconstitutional. Host there was a letter that an by several mayors including that of portland, chicago, and the like to pres. Trump. It reads in part, deployment of forces in the streets of our communities has not been requested nor is it respectable. And chillingtable that this administration has deplored the u. S. Department of Homeland Security unit and is sending federal authorities to conduct crowd control and detain individuals. In portland, there at actions have their actions have escalated events and increased the risk of violence against lawlians and local enforcement officers. On our agreed line, david is next. Caller this is subterfuge, sedition, and treason. These governors who took money to stand down the National Guard and allow these people to do what they are doing the last unconstitutional. What about the people who own these stores, what about the people making a living . They dont have Constitutional Rights either . You got these people running around in the street. Theres a ohio state yet, but it may get to that. Murphy, and of, the attorney general with that goofy whatever is name is mayor of philadelphia think they are going to let this keep going on and people arent going to stand up to it . Wake up, American People. Happen. T this host next caller from North Carolina on or disagree line. Caller i was calling because i disagree. For the past three and a half years, we have watched him abuse power in multiple ways, whether it be Foreign Policy, or him using religion to manipulate, so i dont feel like we can definitely trust him, and i think if the states are saying they dont want help he has been saying the whole time, leave it to the states. Even with coronavirus testing, he said leave it to the states. Now you want to take over these major cities. In a sense, i feel like there is an ulterior motive behind it. Host such as what. Caller i am not sure exactly. It is right around voting time and i dont feel like they are trying to help. They could handle it by doing , i think that would help soothe the tensions in the states. I dont feel like having more aggression toward the citizens is the answer. Host that is veronica in winstonsalem. One of the codes being cited for these forces,n of something called u. S. Code 1350. To read you a little bit of what can be applied there, this is what Cornell University says, the Homeland Security secretary may designate employees of the department of Homeland Security including employees transferred from the office of protective General Services Administration Pursuant to the Homeland Security act of 2000 two, as officers in connection with the protection of property owned or occupied by the federal government and persons on the duty in areasding outside the property to the extent necessary to protect the property and persons of the there areseveral specific powers under this. Carrying firearms, making arrests without a warrant for any offense against the United States committed against an server or agent or or subpoenas issued under the laws of the United States. There is also this law saying that in general, the general secretary, in consultation with the administrator of General Services may prescribe protections for the property owned by the federal government and the persons on the property. Regulations may include reasonable penalties within the limits described in the second paragraph. He goes on from there. If you want to get a sense of the laws being cited the hind these actions, you can go to the Cornell University website or other sites to read those for yourself. Joe in the new york agrees with this move. Hello. Caller good morning, pedro. I agree. They should just take all the par away from the governor and come take all the power away from the governor then they can cancel all the elections so we can get trump here for another four years. Host why do you agree with the specific move . Caller you let the other idiot go on forever. I am telling you what they are going to do. They will take away the powers of the governor and then you are going to shut down voting and then we are going to have this cheeto in here for former years. Let me talk you are going to have a republic me. Fter host to clear a couple of things, i not. What leads you to believe everything you just said . Caller pedro, you never stop on the republican line. Every time. You are going to have a republican representative on after. Host our lines are not political. You are calling on the agreed line and i wanted to get your thinking. We will move on. From california on the disagree line, hello. Host you are calling on our disagree line. You agree or disagree with it . Caller i disagree. One of the reasons is, the basic i heard it before the show began, just to hammer it home, the basic argument, one of them is that it is retribution. We are paying back for the damage they have done. What about all the shop owners . Not an argument. There is a risk to owning a shop, it is called the cost of doing business and it has just gone up. That is the way it is. And the punishment this is a punishment action by trump. His hands are tied and he is punishing for this imager he has to deal with. Host specifically with the federal forces, why are they not applicable in this case . Caller they are not applicable because it is based on patriot act staff. That whole thing was the whole entire thing was based on what . And it was rammed through congress. All the things they were doing here, without identifying themselves and having a clear policy at the national level, se are pictured patriot act provisions. What made it possible is pictured act. I would also like to move on with my other point host lets go to Mary Elizabeth and new york who is on our disagree line. Caller i think this is a diversion for the president for his reelection campaign. Almost 150 thousand people have died because he mishandled the coronavirus epidemic pandemic situation. It is a diversion. The people began to protest in the street because they were protesting the murder of george floyd publicly. Against the power of the police against the citizenry. Thenow, it is like president has decided that those complaints about the power of the police over the citizenry doesnt mean anything. He is putting a hammer down. It is basically, in my opinion, a diversion from the coronavirus and all these people who have died. Is Mary Elizabeth. When it comes to issues from the coronavirus, there was an announcement yesterday about briefing scheduled at 5 00. Go to our website to monitor that. We go to carlos in miami beach, who agrees with this move. Go ahead, you are on. Caller [indiscernible] , go ahead with your question or comment, please. Caller 100 43,000 to be exact. To tell you the truth, not a fan of it. Nother thing is host what do you think of federal agents being sent to the cities . Caller it has to happen. Without rules, we are animals. Host why do you think federal forces are needed in this case . Caller how about this . Remember the last time i was on air . Caller, please, why do you think federal forces are needed in this case . Caller because last time they didnt want any help. And then they needed help. Host ok. Also a person would agrees with this is cj from baton rouge, louisiana. Caller good morning. Ink this is just a host go ahead, you are on. Caller sorry. I think these are not protesters. Looters, anders, bolshevik wannabes. I think they need to be stopped by any means possible. There is nothing worse than a bolshevik. These are democrat bolsheviks, and they need to be stopped before they destroy the country. They are on their way to do it, and most of these cities are run by democrat mayors. Host all right. We will go to ivan in massachusetts on our agree line. Have calledarea i for years. I am a lifelong supporter of democrats and i have completely. Bandoned the Democratic Party this is a perfect example of why. It is just common sense, daytoday life. People have to feel secure in their businesses. Andtop enforcing the laws that is a political decision . You know, we are in big trouble. I just feel as though President Trump is doing the only possible thing he can do, he is setting the tone. We have to enforce the laws. I used to go to boston from medical appointments, i am not even comfortable to go into the city anymore. That is a terrible shame. I lived there for 17 years and now the citys are not places that people feel safe. That is certainly the essence of what makes america a great place to live, and i applaud President Trump for standing up and doing the right thing. Thank you. Host ivan in massachusetts berrien byron from the wall street journal this morning talks a bit about the laws being applied by these forces. One question, can the federal government deployed Law Enforcement against the wishes of a leader . He writes, in general, yes. They have the right to enforce federal laws even against the objection of state and local leaders. In addition, many states have passed laws giving federal authorities permission to laws within their borders. Another question, can agents on department of Homeland Security be used in Law Enforcement. Law enforcement authorities powers differ from local authorities. The federal bureau of investigation, overseen by the justice department, with a broad mandate to investigate violations of federal law. D. H. S. Has several Law Enforcement entities including immigrations and customs and the like. Another question what authority does the federal government have to detain protesters . The answer, in a number of cases, protesters complained about being put into unmarked vehicles, brought to a new location and then released. The answer is that federal agents need probable cause. Police may briefly detain individuals to question them about a federal crime. Andquestioning is voluntary americans have the right to invoke their fifth amendment. You can read about the laws applied. On our disagree line, robert, hi. Caller hello, pedro. The president needs this country like a deadbeat dad. Front when it comes to discipline. But when it comes to leadership and, he is not a person to bes trusted with these decisions because he seems to make them in an irrational way. Host steve, an hour agree line. Charleston, south carolina. Caller i think i could look at this as a political strategy perspective. The president has the unenviable task of making tough decisions all the time, and clearly he is charged with domestic tranquility and supporting the idea of everybody having the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. From the political standpoint, i think the motives of the leaders of some of the cities are more clear than the president. They know they can ask the police to stand down, which forces the president to make a choice that why send an officers or do not. Either way they know he will look bad to somebody. I know he will come out looking like the bad guy in either situation. They can sit back and enjoy the mayhem while their cities are being destroyed. Public and private property are being destroyed. , peopleer caller, yes have a right to have their businesses, you cannot claim this is collateral business damage. Host do you think that the presence of these forces escalates or deescalate situations . Caller that is the problem, it could escalate the situation. And these city leaders are sitting back. The ones who do not like trump are enjoying it because they know that it would make him look bad. The right to protest and demonstrate is fine. But it does not trump, excuse the pun, but the right of other citizens to go back and forth to their place of employment. Anybody should understand that. That is simple logic. I think this is a ploy on the part of the leaders to make the president look bad. Host that is steve, south carolina. Clement, detroit michigan on our disagree line. Hello. Caller yes. The question i ask is why is the president of the United States declaring war on the American People . This country let me finish. I have not set a thing, go ahead. Caller can you hear me . Host you are probably listening to the television. Go ahead. Caller ok. Of thethe president United States declaring war on the American People . If those people in oregon and all these other cities, why arent we sending people into find out what is wrong . I am a neuropsychologist and i believe that there is a problem, let us find out what it is and then work for a solution. To do what this man is doing, trying to divide this country, just so he can get reelected again. This is as about as the most evil thing as any man would want to put in his own mind. Host do you think that solutions would have, on its own without the presence of federal forces . Caller if the people who are there that have issues, town Hall Meetings will solve most of those problems. If you want to know what is wrong, ask what is your issues . Why are you doing it . These people are angry, i am angry. I am looking at a nation that kept as a person of color in slavery for 246 years, and you do not want to address that issue, which we have a right. Host clement, in detroit, michigan. When it comes to the situation in portland, a couple of editorials. This is the Washington Post. It serves mr. Trumps purpose is that some small percentage of protesters identified himself as antifa. Along with acts of violence against the police and property have allowed the president to smear them all of anarchists and afford a pretext to deploy his counter depart counterproductive troops. Mr. Trump trailing in the polls and the coronavirus infecting tens of thousands more the dems, portland may be a front of many interventions as election day approaches. You go to the walls you go to the wall street journal saying if radicals feel emboldened, they have allowed Political Violence to occur with impunity. Marches by antifa and farright activists have descended into brawling. Dissent assault has gone unpunished. Portland police admit that they sometimes walk away from protests or strategically disengage. Desirerstand mr. Trumps to restore order saying that they will blame federal intervention for any and other disorder deflecting attention from their own failures. Next, fort payne, alabama. Hello. Caller thank you for taking my call. First of all, what gives them things,t to tear up earn things down. What gives them the authority to do that . Second of all this is not a republican, democrat, or independent issue, this is a world issue. It is not a black or white issue. Conflict that there is only one person that can control it, and that is god almighty. Second of all, until, and people let this sink in for a minute. Issues that these we are facing right now, whether it be covid19 or the rioting, until it knocks on your door, you will agree with all of this that is going on until one of your babies is killed, or one of your policeman are attacked, until your place of business is burnt down, until your mother or dad has been attacked, raped, or killed. You will not agree with nothing that donald trump does. Charles from West Virginia on our disagree line. Caller good morning. Reason i, the entire disagree with the actions that President Trump has made is that he has sent federal dogs on protesters in oregon as a form of oppression and terrorism, and like you cited earlier, these federal agents are sometimes detaining people and taking off and releasing them, one that is not supposed to happen. The United States coast guard is the only branch of the military now that i am think about it, i probably am wrong. But donald trump is using this is a form of oppression against people because donald trump does not like what they are up against because they are all against him, and host you defined it as terrorism. What leads you to believe that . It is the way they are treating the protesters, quite frankly. Host how so . Caller these protesters are fighting for their lives, and i am sick of seeing little children being pepper sprayed, and to me that resonates with terror, and that is what terrorists do. That is not what Police Officers or you trust do. Timesthe washington talking a little bit about the reaction from the chicago mayor, saying that Lori Lightfoot calling President Trump and saying sending federal agents to quell crime would spell disaster. What would make our Community Less safe is secret federal agents deployed to chicago. Any other form of militarized assistance that would not be within the control or direct command of the Chicago Police department would spell disaster. The mayor on msnbc talking about the same issue and the reaction she had about possible troops going to chicago. Heres a portion. [video clip] as a former federal prosecutor, i know that if resources are brought in to augment existing federal infrastructure under the control and direction of a local u. S. Attorney, there might be a value add. Look at what happened in portland. We have no advance notice, no notice to the local u. S. Attorneys office, and having armed camouflaged individuals with no insignia, no nameplates, grabbing people off of the street, that is unconstitutional. Our democracy is at state, and i will be darned, if i let anybody bring those kind of troops to our city and try to take off our residents. That will not happen in chicago. If they try it, i will use every tool at my disposal to stop them. We still have a constitution and laws, and i will use those to deploy against them. We are not going to have to urinate in the city of chicago. It is just not cot tierney tyranny in the city of chicago. It is not going to happen. [end video clip] host we will hear from carlo. Caller you know the primary job of the federal government is to protect the safety and welfare of american citizens. Charge,their number one and that is what they are doing. Pedro, you referred to them as troops, they are not troops. They are federal agents, and they are doing the job that they are supposed to be doing. They are protecting federal property. Host in this case, it is ,pplicable that the agents whatever you call them, that they are used in this context. Caller will you let me talk . This program has swung so far left , you quote the new york you quote the New York Times front to back. Host i am trying to foster the foster a conversation. Do you think the troops are applicable . Caller you let other people talk, but you do not let a conservative talk. If you read the letter of resignation the woman wrote to the New York Times they are left ring. Host that has nothing to do with this context, but go ahead and finish your thought. Caller you should put a disclaimer every time you read from the New York Times. Host i will read from the letter of the philadelphia mayor who wrote on this topic saying to send federal agents to please u. S. Cities that have not requested aid will impede the work of local governments, exacerbate heightened tensions and target cities like by led by democratic mayors is clearly tion of federal resources. While the city of philadelphia has not received notification, we would use all means to resist such a wrongheaded effort and abuse of power. Richard is next on the agree line. Caller i agree with the president. If the mayors and governors are not doing nothing about this. This is not protests. People are not protesting, they are writers. Like the other guy said before, these are not troops, they are federal agents brought in to protect the federal buildings and the people who work there. These people who say that they stir it up again, it has already been stirred up. These people are animals in the street, and that mayor of chicago should be impeached. The woman i cannot believe that that woman is talking about congress while they are killing people. They had 58 shootings in chicago this weekend. Nerve does she have to talk . Host but what do you think federal agents change if they are applied . What do they add . Caller say that again . Host what do federal agents add if they are used . They add to take control of this thing, to get people in control, that is what it is. The regular police need help, then you have to do it. Say,ave to overstep and peoples businesses and people are getting hurt. It is unreal. I am 76 years old and i cannot believe it. Host that is richard and massachusetts. A related story from the Washington Post about the department of Homeland Security tasked to collect data on those who would threaten federal monuments. Saying the guidance first toorted by a blog appears authorize monitoring of social media posts as well as the use of Public Information sources to keep tabs on individuals or groups that may damage or destroy any monument, memorial, or statue. The document makes no distinction on types of monuments or say that they must be located on federal property. Personnel say that they must articulate why the person is a threat and cannot rely on hunches or intuition. Rules are limited to u. S. Citizens believed to be engaged in preparing for esther not espionage or other intelligence activities, sabotage or assassination on behalf of a foreign power or person. It is unclear how it applies to americans protesting monuments or exercising free rights to free speech and protest. Celeste on our disagree line. Caller i think this is all a diversion as far as sending nondescript trips to take care of people when all he really needs to be doing is taking care in ourcorona, the people military, and anything of importance you do not hear anything about. It is all i diversion so he can win the election a diversion so he can win the election. Host if this is about protecting federal troop federal property, why not use personnel in this case . Caller it depends. The confederate statues, i believe they should be there, but not where they are at. But them in a museum. That are the forces being applied are meant to protect federal buildings and other things. . Hy use them in this context i am just asking why use them in this context . Caller what are they ruining . What are they doing right now . They are just protesting. The burning has stopped. Thatis not the protesters, is the people who are paid to go in there. We saw a rollsroyce pull up in front of the Louis Vuitton store and eight people jump out of an 8,000 vehicle. These are not your everyday protesters. Host you think that the regular Police Forces are able to take care of the situation on their own . Caller i think they should. If they cant, they need to redo that, absolutely. He gets he gives the governors and all of them the power, he get that she does not give them anything, because he steps in and does what he thinks his base wants to hear. Hampshire, also on our disagree line. Hello. Caller good morning, thank you. We are all americans, and we should all be operating under the constitution, equal justice under the law. As far as federal troops, if they want to put up a perimeter around a federal building, i understand that. But snatching people off of the street without being identified and lastping, thursday, i believe, congress was briefed about the real threat is to this country, and it is rightwing groups. About a month ago we had a military guy, part of a rightwing group that shot a sheriffs deputy in the face and killed him. I never heard anything from the president outraged about this, and these group, white supremacist, neonazis, kkk that all wants to take down the United States government. Here we have people that are ,rotesting Police Brutality equal justice under the law. We have seen Donald Trumps crohns get off crones get off and get pardons when a black man get stopped for a taillight out and get shot to death in front of a fort a fouryearold. I am the daughter of a slain police officer, host do you think that the protest that you have seen them already are acceptable, they have not gone too far . Caller you have two types, you have the peaceful protesters, and then you have other people taking advantage of that situation salute and burn. I do not agree with looting and burning, but i believe we have a right to peacefully protest. Here we have donald trump turning into a dictator at our expense and our constitutions expense when the real threat is right wing extremists. Host you made that point, sarah, in new hampshire. Highlights a Statement Released by u. S. Customs and Border Protection on this issue, adding that it is an itncy and confirming that detained a protester and disputed accounts. The agency said that agents had information about a person expected of assaulting federal agents suspected of federal agents. Ken cuccinelli dismissed the uproar, calling cnn that he did not consider the practice unusual. It was mark morgan on one of the aboutrecently talking this, specifically in portland and reacting about the use of federal officers in these other cities. [video clip] we have a statutory responsibility to protect a federal building. They also have the Statutory Authority to do that. That is why we are there. The violence started well before we put additional resources. We had credible information that the federal buildings were going to be attacked, which led us to putting more resources there and that is what happened. In the past couple of days we have had police stations and federal buildings boarded up with commercial grade fireworks launched inside the buildings to set them on fire with people inside. To answer your question, what we need is local leaders to stop saying irresponsible things, reach out to the protesters and get the police to work with us to go out and stop and arrest criminals. That is what needs to be done. But they refused to do it. [end video clip] host this is off of twitter, how do we know they have federal troops that without any form of id. The mayors request them . If not the troops should be removed. Joe in south carolina, sending us a text, if protesters turned violent to the point of destroying public and private property or if the lives of citizens are in danger, and local authorities like the capability to contain the situation, federal officials should be called in to reestablish a safe environment for all citizens and protect property. Also off twitter, a viewer saying we do need law and order, but using secret police will not work, it will just escalate as we have seen in other countries. That is off of arson that shot of off of our twitter feed. If you want to text us, 2027488003 is the number to do so. Frank on the agree line. Good morning. Caller i agree with what the president is trying to do. I do not think he he needs more people going into the states because these people running these states, these democrats do not give a dam about the people, they do not care about the buildings or nothing. The bottom line here is that they are trying to really overthrow the government. You are is no police, going to have total chaos. People will come into your house, kill your families, raping your women. You name it, that is what the democrats want. Host leona in new york on our you agree line on our agree line. Hello. Caller thank you for allowing me to speak. When the lady from alabama called said that until it is one of your loved ones who gets beat people were getting murdered inside of the chop zone in seattle, and the seattle mayor said it would be a summer of love. And then, they came for her, they protested in front of her house. They threatened her. When that happened, all of a sudden she said, this has to stop. Lady fromk the alabama for giving me the idea to call, because i thought that people are ignoring what is really going on. These people do not feel threatened. These mayors do not feel threatened, they think these protests are fine because no one is coming for them. But as soon as somebody comes from them, they turn around and want to protect themselves and they say this has to stop. So let us get real, and i thank you again. Host new jersey, disagree line. Hello. Caller good morning. When these cities have been asking for help for education to have some kind of no one over these guns, heard them. They have not been listening for years. These people have been crying out for help, other people that are calling have no idea what goes on in the city. Drive through city sometime, all they ask for is a little bit of help. Their backs had been turned and they had their backs turned on them. What is happening now is we are protecting federal buildings, and not human life. We see that coming from the white house with the covid disease. All i am saying is just take a look. Our people are being killed on the streets and no one cares. Host when it comes to the protest themselves, you believe that the federal presence was not warranted when it comes the nature of some of the protests . Caller i do not think it was. I think the cities have been asking for help from the government in for medical help. Host but that is aside from the protests themselves. Caller the protests, i feel as though you have a right to say it as much as the clan has the klan has a right to say what they would say. I would like to see a city that black people went into and destroyed and took over. From michigan on our disagree line. Hello. Caller how are you doing this morning . Host good. Caller i am an old hippie, so i do not like seeing violence, but what needs to happen is they need to go after george soros and antifa, he has a globalist. Petitiona white house that has almost a quarter of million signatures asking to do just that and another 500,000 signatures to arrest bill gates. Host how does this go to george soros and bill gates . Draw this line. Caller the thing is, just focus on sorrows. He is funding groups bringing anarchy to the cities which is not acceptable. Host what convinces you of that . Caller i am a journalist, i do a lot of research, it is obvious. Why do you think a court of a Million People want george soros arrested on the white house petition . Host if that is the case, what source would you cite . Caller boy. If you read my writings on facebook, my name is bruce cain, i provide plenty. I have written books worth of essays. Host what source would you cite specifically to make that case . Caller i am trying to think. There are a couple. Soros have known george for many decades, because i was the cannabis legalization movement. He was never for legalization. Host we will move on to linda, mississippi, on our disagree line. If you are linda, hello. Caller i am sorry. I disagree. Thoseically, because, trump were called in, and sent them and because it is a democratic state. The rioting and everything had d escalated, and he sends them scalated. And he sends them. Protesting Police Brutality, and he sends police in there to do anything and everything to disrupt the situation the way it is. Host you said the riotings were deescalating and we are showing photos of events in portland. You think everything is deescalating. Caller i am not talking about after they came, i am talking before they came in. No names, no police, the army, police, they could be theklan sman dressed up in army suits. Nobody asked for them. He only sent those troops to blue states. Host ok. Thisis linda finishing off hour taking your calls on this topic. I appreciate all of you who gave amplitude. Two guests joining us, the house is supposed to come in at 9 00 for business. We will go to them when they do. Will hear from American Federation of teachers president Randi Weingarten to talk about reopening schools in the pandemic and later on the american conservative unions matt schlapp Discusses Campaign 2020 and President Trumps reelection strategy. We wanted to show you a moment of silence for the late congressman john lewis who died over the weekend and heres a portion of that memorial. [video clip] , i ask thateaker all members rise for a moment of silence in remembrance of the honorable john robert lewis. The chair asks that all of those present in the chamber as well as members and staff throughout the capital and all who loved john lewis, wherever you are, rise in a moment of silence and remembrance of the conscious of the congress, the honorable john lewis. For what purpose does the gentleman from georgia [applause] for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek further wreck nation . Offer ae speaker, i privileged resolution and ask for its immediate consideration. House resolution 1054, resolve that the house returned h profound sorrow at the death of the honorable john lewis, a representative from the state of georgia, resolved that a committee of such members of the house as a speaker may designate together with such members of the senate which may be joined be appointed to attend a funeral. Resolved that the sergeant of arms of the house be authorized and directed to take such steps as may be necessary for carrying out the precisions provisions of these resolutions and the necessary extensions be paid out of applicable accounts of the house. Resolved that they communicate these resolutions to the senate and transmit a copy to the family of the deceased. Resolved that when the house adjourns today, it adjourns of a further respect to the memory of the deceased. Host without object without objection, the motion is agreed to and the motion to reconsider it is laid on the table. Thank you. [end video clip] washington journal continues. Host this is Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of teachers talking about reopening schools in the pandemic. Guest thank you. People about the scope of the American Federation of teachers, whom you represent. Millione represent 1. 7 people across the country, all strivers,e teachers, professionals cap bus drivers, public employees, nurses, and other health care professionals, 200,000 of whom have been working through this pandemic. We represent the people who make a difference every single day in the lives of americans, and we have been working as essential workers to help people be safe through the pandemic. Host your organization just did a survey of teachers asking them what they would need to feel comfortable should schools reopen, what were some of the results . Guest i am so glad you asked this question. We did our survey at the end of june, basically wanting to wait so school had finished this year. Largest ande also higher education, to get a sense to what attitudes were right now after they had gone through the virus. And what they told us, because i am sure that it is different than what it is today, giving trump, is that at the end of june they said that 76 said that if we could get the safeguards that we had been fiercely advocating for since april, meaning safeguards to stop the spread of the virus, meaning that you have very little virus spread in a community, you have a testing infrastructure, and then in school you have the social distancing, the masks, cleaning, ventilation, and reasonable accommodation for people at risk on top of washing your hands, that 76 were comfortable going back in. I think kevin what has happened in the last two weeks with the wood with divorce and trump wanting school devos and trump wanting schools to fail by creating this situation that denies the virus and says you can open up without having the resources, i would say that that number has completely reversed. Host betsy devos and President Trump stressed the importance of having kids physically back in school saying it is the best environment for kids to learn, you agree or disagree . Guest of course i agree. Topandemic we were having fight betsy devos for years, because she has always been into Virtual Learning as a substitute for Public Education. She is into anything she can have for a substitute for Public Education. But, we know that you need to have in School Learning. Teachers want to be back in the classroom. We also pulled our members to see what they thought. Even though they gave their district a lot of credit for trying to help support them, 86 thought that Remote Learning did not work. It is not a substitute for it. This is the problem. Choice, youave a cannot pick safety of people in the middle of the pandemic surging in florida, texas, california. You cannot pick that against education. We need to do the we need to do both. First, but we also have to do things to ensure that kids can get a decent education this year even with the pandemic, and that will probably mean that in most places we will start remote. There will be places where you can do some in person learning. That, big proponent of but it has to be safe. Our members wanted, as you could see. They knew that if it was safe, they were comfortable. Spread have a huge virus that is raging throughout the country, and you have a reckless president , and secretary of education who deny the virus and not care about jeopardizing peoples lives. Host educators can call at 2027488000. Parents and students, 2027488001. All others, 2027488002. You can text us questions at 2027488003. Randi weingarten for the federal responsibility dollar wise, is there a figure that needs to be seen in order to make school safe . Guest i think that the heroes bill was a first step, because it is a two parter. Basicallystate aid fund public schools. Cratered invenues march and april, and they are going to crater again. Federalult, the government should not just be propping up the cruise industry, propping up the Airline Industry as important as they are to the economy. The most Important Services for localities been what have been doing throughout this pandemic. That is why states need about states need the support that the heroes act gave, which is about half 1 trillion. Localities as well. I think we need the trillion dollars from the heroes act, and on top of that, another hundred billion dollars because of the cost of reopening schools. Our union figured out that it billion in order to pay for the ppe, masks, face shields, and other ppe that we need. Structures toe create physical distancing, to pay for the cleaning and rejiggering of the system, the nurses and Guidance Counselors that we need in schools. Doyou are actually going to what donald trump says, which is assuming no surge, pick a place like new york and new jersey where you have infection rates down below 1 and you are going to reopen every single school, five days a week with all of the services that kids need, you would have to pay half 1 you would have to pay teachers 50 and you will have to find tenants and all sorts of other things. So we have to be safe for kids. Devos say that trump and and mcconnell, they are not going anywhere near that number. But they are doing is that they do not have a plan or the resources, they are trying to create a talking point because they know, just like we know, that schools are important. We believe it is important because we have to deal with and lost instructions and meet their emotional and social needs. But, what we are seeing is that devos, trump, and mcconnell wanted to be a talking point as opposed to actually wanting to solve the problem. Host we have calls lined up for you. Moses is in minnesota. You are on. Go ahead. Caller yes. If i remember correctly, you made a position about impeaching trump, so you have got one million plus teachers and you guys cannot come up with a solution. Guest we have come up with a solution. We put our solution out at the end of april. We spent the entire month of april talking to epidemiologists, virologists, Infectious Disease folks to figure out how to do this, and we have a plan. I sat on the formal commission in new york state and we came up with a plan. Remember what i said, sir. My membership before trump and were so reckless, 76 of them said that we got if we got the safeguards we were comfortable. The question is that we need the leadership, planning, and resources, and frankly, the administration turned their backs on the virus and now it is surging. Host we will let him finish his thought. Caller go ahead and finish his thought. Guest i am sorry. Caller you made a position about impeachment, your union, you represent teachers. You is my point, why are not an essential worker . We have people in the military who fight for our country to protect us. Your teachers will not even go in the classroom. The parents are saying going the classroom, students are single in the classroom. Who are yellow teachers typically communists, most of them, your union is, cannot go in and teach kids. Guest let me just say to you, sir, my grandfather was escape from russia and he would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that somebody was calm calling his granddaughter a communist. Let me say that to you. The point i am trying to make to you, sir, is that teachers are essential workers and they have been working and engaging kids all year long. They changed their teaching practices in a nano second, and the polling i have seen, just like what happened with my numbers is that because of the recklessness of trump and devos, and mcconnell, it has switched to 70 of her so of parents do not want to send their kids to places that are dangerous. We want schools to reopen safely. We have been working on it since april. Ultimately, i would love to work with you and try to figure out how do we open School Safely as opposed to any of the namecalling. Host let us hear from a parent in florida. Carlos, hello. Caller hello, i am a parent of two, i have a child in middle school and elementary. The data that you were bringing up was from april. Well, a lot of things have changed between april and now. Schoolsas stayed open, have been going. In florida, daycares have never closed due to covid. Even when our percentages were low, the transition was not the transmission was not increased. We do have to look at the data compared to april. For the children, we do not have enough we do not have the data that shows that they are transmitting this disease. We cannot politicize this. Our kids have to go back to school. Me and my wife, we both work from home, this has been a wrecking ball for the house. They have to go back to school, it is not fair to them, and the family. We just have to fight this, but there is no proof that children are transmitting this disease. Host we will let our guest answer. Guest thank you for that. And, frankly what you just said t to put oute the af a plan on how to get us back to school, and i frankly that you read the plan on aft. Org. We want schools reopened, we want them to be open safely. But we are actually getting new data every single day, and frankly there is now data about from south korea that shows that older kids actually transmit the way that adults do. The point is that we know it is not going to be riskfree, which is why i am saying that before trump and devos started the recklessness and denied that the virus existed, before their stances ignited that the virus existed and you had that huge percent orida, 70 76 of my members were comfortable in terms of going back to School Buildings with those safeguards. What some of us are trying to say, you are right about the Daycare Centers and in places one of the things we used in figuring out the safeguards where the safeguards happening in Daycare Centers and rec centers. We know that the physical distancing of six feet, and masks, and cleaning, and ventilation, and kids not using each other stuff works, and we know that younger kids need school. I would disagree about sweden, and about what has happened in these different places, but we need to have the kind of infrastructure set up. I do not want to be on remote instruction just like you do not want to be on remote instruction, but we need to try and make sure that it is safe before we put people into classrooms that do not have ventilation and do not have the kind of safeguards. That is what we are trying to do. Host there is an Organization Called the Florida Education Association that is suing the government of florida over the reopening of schools. What do you know about the lawsuit . Affiliatey are our and we have been engaged in the lawsuit. What happened is the lawsuit is about letting the different jurisdictions in florida make their own decisions rather than actually force without Safety Standards or anything else the having five day a week school was september 2 as if this was september 2019 pandemic. So as of yesterday the Florida Education Association sued d santos and d santos and the state educational commissioner mayore Miamidade County because he has been making all sorts of Health Decisions in defiance of the science. What we are saying is let science and safety rule, because that way we can get back as quickly as possible to a normal where we can engage kids in School Safely. That is what that is about, and it says let local districts make decisions based upon what is safe in their community. I was honored to be a part of the lawsuit, as is corporation. Host this is lee from tennessee. Georgia andught in one time. I absolutely agree with you. I do not think it is safe to go back to school in cleveland, tennessee. Our case count is out of this world. The kids are out here playing ball, and i do not understand that. No mask on. The county mayor is not enforcing the mask. Intake, andgh nothing changed at our schools. Where are they going to get the ppe. Notave had people here just even being able to get out. It has been two months since ive been able to go out and get my groceries. I worried i worry about my young ones, i have three, and they are expected to go back to school next week, and i do not understand why this is all political. It has everything to do with our on your, if a grown man thing there says a while ago, said he had been a disaster. Maybe we need to have more kids at home and the teachers need to go on strike, because of the way the local mayors, and the governors will not take your phone calls. The mayors will not take your phone calls unless you threaten to call the news. Host ok, i appreciate it. Andt what you are hearing, one of your speakers who was on one of the conservative lines said it should not be political. I agree with that. We need to be driven by what are and theeeds science and safety concerns. And i will say it over and over again. We have been trying. Wehave had people on and have been making plans in april, may, and june. I served on governor cuomos reopening plan where we came up with a plan on how to reopen in School Learning safely, and where teachers are wrestling with that right now. We put a teacher and superintendents back . Public officials have refused to do that up until now . , and as dr. Fauci has said, that masks make things safe for you and for people that you are with, why is governor atlantang the mayor of about the wearing of masks . Every european country that has reopened their School Safely has done it in terms of focusing on the science and the kids, andests of our of their communities including teachers. I do not get why we do not do it in the United States and why this has become political. Host would you advocate for schools not starting until a vaccine is fully developed . Guest i do not. We advocate we know that schooling is really important for our young people, and we know that there are some risks involved, which is part of the reason why we feel like there should be accommodation to people who are at risk including whether it is kids who are compromised or educators who are at risk. It is absolutely a necessity. I amy for a vaccine, watching these places across the world racing to try and get one. That is why the safety safeguards that prevent transmission in a school are so important including ventilation, ppe,ing, masks, and other and the six foot physical distancing. We know that schools are made for social interaction, not social distancing. We know that this will be hard and that is part of the reason advocated fory trying to do some of this like the gentleman said about derek like daycare, and Like Summer School this summer to try and do some of these different plans. But we need the safety considerations as a condition condition, asy something that is first and foremost. Host vermont is next, a parent. Melissa. Hello. There, i wanted to say carlos was mentioning about children must go back to school and that children do not carry the disease. Anyway, what do you say to the parents where there was a child that passed away in new york that was five years old . An 11yearold passed away in florida not so long ago. I am very fearful of my grandchildren and children in school. I believe what should happen is whether the government helps everybody with food and whatever they need to take care of to stay home, mandate people stay home for 30 days and see what happens. I bet that there would be a big turnaround. I am just fearful of the kids going to school, the bottom line, it scares me. My husband had a heart attack and the doctors told him that you could not get this disease or you would pass away. I think everyone should follow s word. E fauci wear a mask, stay home. Host we will let our guest answer. That carlos was had fourt data that we weeks ago, even though he said the data was more updated than that, and, maybe it was. We are learning something new every single day. Not,ow that young kids do asnk god, do not get as sick our seniors, we know that 40 of the deaths right now have been people in Nursing Homes either working there or people who have lived there. We areth the data getting from other places, we are seeing that the number of people who are getting covid in the United States i actually are actually going down, the average age is in the 30s and 40s. And, this new report from south korea shows that even though they had their schools open, they have been opening and closing, that middle schoolers and senior High Schoolers do carry and transmit, which is why it is so important that when buildings are open we have safeguards in buildings to prevent the transmission, just like other essential workers and others who are indoor and outdoors have been. Your caller is saying is that that is what was supposed to happen in march and april in terms of this very across thecause country. What happened is that the president and places like arizona and georgia and florida opened much too quickly and they had an inconsistent message about not wearing a mask, they had an inconsistent message and so we are seeing huge virus spread. There is a balance here, and we have to try and figure out how to have our new normal, but we have to take the virus seriously, particularly in places where there is a huge spread. The airline is taken the airlines take it seriously, other commercial entities take it seriously. I flew yesterday, and had to wear a mask. The airline showed everything it was doing was making sure it was clean. There was better ventilation in that airline than there ever is in ever in any school i know, and that is what they are trying they to assure those that those that are flying that they are safe. Why dont we have the safeguards and schools . That is what is ridiculous about this conversation with trump. He refuses to have safeguards for our children and teachers, and yet all of these commercial interests are having safeguards. He gets tested every day including the Vice President and everybody who is with them. We could try to have testing of all students every single day and all parents every single day, and that would cost an enormous amount of money. There are other options, but we are trying to figure out how to educate kids to make sure that it is safe. Start remote inll some places, different places are trying different things. ,this is Randi Weingarten pennsylvania, we are just about out of time on this. Im a teacher in new jersey and im ready and able to go back what im worried about safety. We have already seen how this local highut at my school, not implementing any of the executive orders. They didnt include any masks, very little distancing. Thank you. Totally right. These are not either or. And. Ed masks and physical distancing. The cleaning of the school and the ventilation. Thank you to the teacher. Int lets try to squeeze one more call. John, mechanicsburg. Short on time, go right ahead. Guest caller taxation without representation. These unions, the states and federal locals like the Teachers Union, they get paid for not working. The movement is growing and there will be changes in the future. Will need to be heard. Have a nice day. Guest let me just say, anyone who says that, sir, you havent watched what teachers did all this spring and all this summer. Teachers were working remotely. Teachers were calling their students. Teachers were making sure that they not only taped lessons, but contacted their students all the time. Its not fair to say that about teachers. You may hate unions, but please, just because teachers, like im in my apartment right now, in, doing this, doing this interview. You cant say im not working. You cannot say that pedro is not working. We want to be back in schools. We want to see our kids. We have a right just like you do to be safe. This is not political and its too bad that in this country we have gotten so political when it is about children. ThankRandi Weingarten, you for your time today. Guest thank you. Host the house is expected to come in at 9 00. Right now we hear from another guest, matt schlapp of the conservative union. As it stands today, how would you make the case that President Trump can win a second term . Guest this race sets up similarly to the race in 2016. The biggest dynamic, which i think is even bigger, is this idea that if you are a republican or a conservative, that you propagate hate speech or that it is a racist party when history shows its the opposite. This is the party that stood up against slavery, cap the union together and pushed for civil rights. If you support trump or are a republican and you support republicans and holding onto the majority in the senate, when it is equated to racism as it is done in most media outlets, what Trump Supporters and republicans start to ease back on Public Comments on politics, including just in social situations. Even these corporations that are woke, and attacking people with these views, if you work in one of those corporations, you will probably not answer the russians of a pollster. What i see around the country is a whisper. I talked to jim jordan the other day, he called it the trump whisper. I have people come up to me and they whisper support of what i say publicly and what the president is doing every day on the job. Its the whisper that i think is almost unamerican, they are afraid to speak up because there will be consequences if they do. It comes to reelection, how does the management of coronavirus factor in . Guest it could be a big issue in this chinese corona outbreak and most americans who are fair realize that china set this loose on the world, ravaging countries like italy. We dont know the numbers out of china, they are so corrupt and dishonest. That is clearly where the disease has had the biggest impact. You know, i mourn the deaths. Her previous guest, i found comments outrageous as the father of five kids who are literally being held hostage on whether they can go back to school or not because we live in a state with a blue state governor who is putting politics ahead of the interests of our kids. I think there are a lot of people out there in the country, especially working moms, single moms, single dads, people who have to care for their kids and love their kids and want them in school and that in the outbreak of chinese corona, Something Like 30 out of 15 30 or 15 kids have succumbed to it. Kids are not in the pool of concern when it comes to chinese corona. They need to go back to school. Pediatricians say that they are doing more harm to kids by locking them up in their houses than we would by letting them face the question of chinese corona in a school, playing with their friends. For my kids, its traumatic, what has happened to them and we have done exactly the wrong thing. Host to what degree are you satisfied with the president s management of the virus. I love how liberals think a president can do everything. Even republican president s fall into this idea of how they grow the economy, they create jobs and at the end of the day, the president is the most important job in the world, but theres a lot he cant do and you cannot control the outbreak of chinese corona. All you can do is try to bring therapeutics to market and push for a vaccine and that is exactly what the administration has done in really record time. The therapeutics on corona, the reason we are reading less frequently about deaths due to chinese corona is because doctors have learned and tragically, a lot of people died in the beginning. Mostly in states like new york and new jersey. Mostly elderly people in Nursing Homes, tragically, because of the terrible decisions that they made. But in that process we learned a lot, the president has been at the forefront of pushing these therapeutics and most of the media have pushed back at him as if that was irresponsible and all studies are showing that the therapeutics he talked about our positive. I read several articles in the last one he for hours about the push on vaccines. I am aware of a much faster test where you can get results in three minutes that was just patented and could be getting fda approval, depending on the science. Everybody in america knows we have never faced anything like this, because you know what, we have never faced anything like this. Joins ust schlapp until 9 00. If you want to ask questions, democrats, 202 7488000, republicans, 202 7488001, independents, 202 7488002, and you can text us at 202 7488003. Make the case that joe biden cannot win the election . Guest im not going to make that case. I think the race is tighter than portrayed in the polls, but its possible for joe biden to win. Their strategy is brilliant. He doesnt leave his house except for a couple of times a week. He put out a evocative tweet last night about saber rattling, russia and foreigners and better not interfere with the election. I think a lot of us would like joe biden to interfere with the election. Time for him to get off the sofa and tell us what he thinks. Our analysis over 50 years of voting is that hes very radical and very wrong and his prescription on what ails america right now, which is basically a lot of socialism and being weak on china is the wrong thing. The constitution says we have to do this. So, lets have these gentlemen clash, debate, do a lot of interviews. Joe biden does interviews with former rap stars. Donald trump sits down with a hostile for a hostile interview with chris wallace. The American People will make their judgment. All Trump Supporters should no longer think that this is a layup. This could be the battle of our lives. Host you are saying the to winlity for mr. Biden is because they are not familiar with the full scope of his ideas . Guest we all know this, joe biden has benefited from ducking and covering and not really having a campaign and explaining the socialist manifesto that he just signed on to, the most radical policy proposal for any democrat thats ever run for president. The second issue that joe biden has to face is that clearly something is going wrong with his cognitive abilities and most people feel its a tough topic to talk about but when i talk to my 80yearold mother who im going to see this week, it worries people that hes not really up to the job. What he ought to do, my advice to him, he probably wont take it, get out there and show people that you have got the mental acuity for the job. The more you duck and cover, the more you raise concerns that there must be a reason why you cant even keep up for schedule in a day. Lets hear some calls. Illinois, connie, republican line. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Everyone. Has, he wasoe biden trump closingd off our borders for china not to come into the United States. Hes been wrong on mostly everything. But the media, the way they push it . They make him look great. Now, this coronavirus, your kids went to school during the worst outbreak time. And they did not get the coronavirus. The teachers did not get coronavirus. So, what is wrong with opening the schools . Dr. Fauci, everyone says hes right, hes right. Well, he says the schools have to open up. Thank you for being on the show this morning. Get an Airline Ticket and bring your common sense out here . You are exactly right. Kids are probably the lowest society. In our so, that is absolutely right. And i do think that joe biden has been radical and wrong for 50 years. Wrong on every major Foreign Policy question for the last 50. Wrong on questions of race in delaware. Wrong on the 1994 crime bill enjoy, almost seemed to passing laws that put a lot of africanamericans away for a very long time in prison. He has been wrong on tax cuts his whole life. He is running on raising your taxes by one third, Something Like 80 of americans, saying everybody who doesnt have a job, he will just give them a government job, which is what we did during the initial hugging of socialism during the new deal. I dont think its that people want menial jobs, they want good jobs. We have to go back to opening up the economy and letting people go back to work and getting the economy humming. When it came to even just women, africanamericans, and hispanics, historic low unemployment rates, feelings of optimism in these populations about the economic future, i still predicted that the africanamerican vote will be the swing vote in this election and donald trump has a lot to present as to why he should be given four more years. Host independent, oregon, democratic line. Guest high, dan. Caller hello, dan. How are you . Caller im good. Saying you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cant fool all the people all the time. Also, be careful who you step on on the way up, they will step on you on the way down. Thank you very much. I like it when the democrats quote abraham lincoln, a good morning. Host francis . Caller im curious about something. Do a lot to do with the Brooks Brothers riot in 2000 and i dont see anything where hes ever been quoted as to his role in that. I hope he can deal with that and tell us this morning on cspan. Host you are on with him about the 2020 election, if you could address the question to that caller to that. Caller Voter Suppression is Voter Suppression. I think its a topical question. Guest its my honor to talk about the Brooks Brothers riots and the concept of one person one vote in the 2000 campaign. Im proud of the fact that i joined a group of protesters at the miamidade courthouse as the democrat Led Commission was going to take these chad laden ballots and put them behind closed doors without anybody supervising from the democratic or republican side, in an effort to try to make up the difference between bush and gore. Our simple ask was that you count the ballots with witnesses from each side and let the cameras watch. America does the does better when we have transparency and when it comes to 2020, we should have the same kind of transparency guaranteeing that there is one vote for one person. You have to show id to vote. You should not be mailed the ballot unless you requested the ballot based on current state law on why you will be absent on election day or why you might have a Health Concern like chinese corona. Thats how we should do things as a country, one vote for one person. If you want to vote, you have the right to vote. If you dont want to vote, you dont need to vote. I hope everyone votes. I try to vote every time. In the last when i didnt vote because i didnt even know any of the candidates on the ballot. There are sometimes reasons why people dont vote and sometimes not voting is a way of voting. We might see a lot of democrats who look at their party and see all this socialism. Democrats used to love the cops, now they are supposed to be against the cops. Jewish americans used to be the most important part of the coalition of the Democratic Party and now the Democratic Party has turned its back on the state of israel. People like me, catholics, the ultimate kind of swing constituency. Now joe biden says he wants to reengage in the war on the Little Sisters of the poor. I think theres a lot of change of politics. Some of it will result in some people deciding not to vote for the democratic standardbearer. I think a lot of africanamericans will decide to vote for donald trump. Change is a good thing in democracy as long as the change is accompanied by a desire to make america better and not to rip it apart. Host when it comes to the senate, what are the chances about it remaining in republican hands . This blueause of state push, it might take a long time to know the results, including who could be in the majority in the senate. I believe georgia has two senate seats open. They could have a runoff, depending on how things come out. It could take a long time to know who wins those races. I would say once again to republicans, dont be cocky about the senate. We have the majority now and we have picked one up in alabama, where doug jones has a next to 0 chance to win, though these are crazy political times. Thats going to be a plus one four republicans already, but we have some tough races out there across the country and the key is this, there was a time maybe a year ago or so where a lot of Trump Supporters were feeling really optimized optimistic, maybe cocky about how the election would go. Im glad that that has been dispelled with and people are running a little more scared. Do everything you can, could be the most important election you have seen. Not just because we say that every four years, but because of what the democrats want to do if they get it get all the power. They have written it all out in their manifesto and its scary stuff. Do you think ohio, pennsylvania, and michigan are in play this time . Guest yes. They are all very tight. Oht polls show Clinton Biden with a lead in those states. She had a little more than 3 of the popular vote, so you can always discount National Polls by 3 , 4 , knowing that they are probably a result of all the bad harbor in a state like california or new york, illinois. The real question, the electoral college, as you point out, those will all be very tight elections. I know i get briefed on the internal polling for the Trump Campaign and it is more optimistic than what you are seeing in the public polling, but it demonstrates that those states, these are coin flip elections. Youru are in those states, vote is really going to matter. Host and to clarify your wifes role in the campaign . Guest its a great title, i cannot always remember it perfectly well, but shes a Strategic Communications advisor for the campaign and before that she had a similar role working in the white house or President Trump. Im proud of her, shes a talented person and im glad shes doing the important work shes doing. Host richard, calling from canada, hello. Caller hello. A lot of doctors, like stephen smith, are having tremendous success treating patients with hydroxychloroquine and they have both said that this pandemic should end today and republican could youpeak to please ask the White Mercedes to put these doctors onto the task force . That the media is getting away with lying about hydroxychloroquine when that drug works, it has been around for 65 years and is a safe drug. Guest obviously im not a doctor. But we are all responsible for our own health and we are all doing a lot of reading. Ever since cpac last year, when the whole explosion of this idea of chinese corona took place and i had the most horrible things said about me, that i was a super spreader that gave it to the president. By the way, i have never had chinese corona, even though i have been exposed lots of times it. Its one of the interesting things about this virus. Some people just dont seem to get sick from it, which is interesting. And i think the question of therapeutics, like hydrochloric when and remdesivir, i know a patient that recovered from it within days. These are very, very, very optimistic, affective remedies. I wish the media would be boosters of the fact that we have therapeutics and remedies and that they would highlight the fact that these drugs at cases, havelots of literally saved peoples lives. I wish they wouldnt try to monger fear and tell you that the president was literally killing people, as one anchor said after the president talked about his dosage of hydrochloric when. We have been using that drug for 80 years and it has been ruled safe, you know, decade after decade after decade. On the testing front, on the vaccine front, on the therapeutics front, and most specifically i think doctors have learned a lot over the tragic course of this virus that china set loose on the world. The survival rate, if you get infected, is so much higher than it was. The dominant aspect of mortality around chinese corona in america where the disastrous decisions by blue state governors like murphy and cuomo and other states, like california, others, to somehow infect the population of folks in Nursing Homes. New york and new jersey, i dont think they did it trying to do everything wrong. These governors were trying to do the right thing, but they made a very tragic mistake and as we know, if you look at nursing home mortality when it comes to chinese corona, its the dominant factor of deaths. Those lives are just as important as anyones. Just because you are in a nursing home it doesnt mean we dont mourn your loss, but it reiterates whos at risk and risk as much, much less we face this terrible virus. Host carolyn, baltimore, democratic line. Guest high, how are you. , how are you. Hi hi, how are you. Caller talking about opening schools, what you said about your five kids confined at home, schools are not they cares. Schools are places where people learn and are teaching. What it sounds like you are saying, and please correct me if im wrong, you just want to get your kids out the house because people shouldnt have their kids in the house. The parents are the most important teacher to their children and because children cannot go to school doesnt mean they cant learn. It sounds like you want to put them in danger, but the teachers in danger, the bus drivers, everyone else, because you dont want your kids in your house. How dare youest say i want to put my kids in danger. Why is it that the only homeschooling people on the left seem to like is when they can mandate it on everyone. The reason i want my kids back in school is because we cherish and love our schools, we love the teachers, we love the administrators. My 10yearold has had so many breakdowns during the School System because the online experience was a disaster for her. Fairfax county, one of the richest School Districts in this whole country, spending more per pupil than any other district, they went months without gang able to have effective online schooling. We are kidding ourselves if we think those kids went through a year of schooling and they didnt and the testing will prove that. I know the people that dont have the financial means that i do where we can make more decisions, we have a variety of decisions we can make on education. If you are poor in america you have one decision, public school. The head of one of those unions was just on the airwaves here basically saying that she cares more about the fact of the political demands of the Teachers Union then she does about these kids, including the poor kids that have no choice, right, but then to go to that public school. Let me ask you this question, if you are a poor kid and your mother or father has to go work at target or wherever they work, what are those kids doing at home . Not everyone can afford to get a nanny or daycare. What are we doing as a country when we are illogical the explaining to our children that it is safe to go to target to get your supplies or home depot to get toilet paper, but its not safe to go back to school. Even if you have a teacher or an administrator in the pool that is high risk, and we all know that they could skype and there are so many ways to handle this. With ouraying politics kids and the desire to close schools and its courageous for every catholic principal bucking every christian and nondenominational school bucking these blue state governments and saying no, we can safely put the kids back in school. Host just a few more minutes with our guest. Independent line, missouri, go ahead. Caller why do we spend 15,000 per year to educate each child in Public Education and how is it so hard to provide small classes with a ratio of one to 10 with six foot spacing that can be maintained and handwashing and individualized instruction, or just give the parent that money and allow them to find alternative programs. Joe biden has touted that he is focusing his education on the teacher. I think thats all wrong. I think we should start with the child. Host ok, looking at the clock, go ahead. About i thought it was the kids, thats with the left always says. But with this whole question, including the head of the Teachers Union on cspan, its not about the kids, its about the socialist manifesto of joe biden. Did you know that one of the demands is to get the cops out of the schools . That is one of the demands. Has nothing to do with fighting the virus. It has to do with them fighting little wars. Why 15,000 per pupil . How much of that goes into the hands of Union Leaders . What kind of lavish lifestyle do they have to run their organization . We know that it can be quite high. This is a moment where if you are a mom and are not very political and you have got a couple of kids you want to see a backtoschool and you see politics coming into play with the question of how you educate your kids, if you want to homeschool, god bless you, those are some of the best families i know and the only homeschooling liberals like is when they can tell you that you must and it is the fascism of the fop police, like this caller that set i want to endanger my kids by unlocking the front door and letting them leave the house. How dare these people tell us this. We love our kids, want the best for their kids and we want them to be able to do math and if we keep doing failed Online Learning they will file further behind in the global economy. Host polling and other things Going Forward to 20 20, give us some specifics on what youre looking for to determine end results. Guest leading up to the campaign . Host 30 seconds, if you can. Fast. I can be the enthusiasm gap. If there is a three to one advantage with donald trump and his supporters and how enthusiastic they are to get out and vote, to volunteer, write checks, and to get involved in their community and get their friends to vote, thats a big deal. When you will have only one third of those supporters excited by joe biden it tells me that as the election goes forward and it will go forward, his support will start to trail off because in the end a lot of americans are not that political and lets face it, joe biden doesnt seem like hes ready to take on the communists and terrorists in china and in the middle east and bring the economy back. Thanks for being with us today. It honors in on to be with you. The speaker pro tempore the house will be in order. The chair lays before the house communication from the speaker. The clerk the speakers room, 21, 2020. , d. C. , july i hereby appoint the honorable to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. Signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of representatives. The speaker pro tempore pursuant to the order of the house of january 7, 2020, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. The chair will alternate