Please stay tuned. Please stay tuned. We have a full agenda coming up. Thank you all. [applause] and a reminder, every morning at 7 00 oclock on cspan its washington journal. This morning a discussion about education reform. Its wholly different was a luis dolson. This is not a test. Thank you you for finding us on cspan. Thank you for having me. Before we start given a sense of how your an activist as you describe yourself. Well, i grewwell, i grew up in the Lower East Side of new york city. Growing up in the hood i found myself in the throes of a lot of the drug warfare , the police that was going on. In the midst of that i was growing from a young, naive black latino to this education activist. Allall throughout that i want to public and private schools, got a degree in Computer Science and found that i can do so much better for my kids. I wanted to be somebody who can inspire students to be much better. I also thought that we could have more color and white teachers to become more culturally competent. As a. As a result i needed to see that it was not just about the academics, but i also think that we need to work on the emotional components and working on the initiatives. Being a Public Education teacher, what do you think about the way washington does Public Education . Generally my concern is when it comes to politics at the federal level theyre is not enough nuance. So oftentimes petty politicking. At the same time as a feel like pedagogy does not come at the forefront. So every time we talk about getting rid of bad teachers no these talking points no we recognize the relationships are really what push students to become more than what they already are. But we never discuss how we make sure we have better human beings coming out of her School Systems. One of the issues we consistently here about is the idea of a standardized test are testing the show achievement and ultimately how it affects school. Talk to that issue, especially from your perspective. When it comes to standardized testing, theyre has to be a sense of accountability. Most people wouldmost people would say they do want to be held accountable. I feel like federal and state level as well as my former mayor generally every politician has talked about this, and it has gotten so exorbitant that we recognize it is not going to solve our problem. The best way to measure our students, making tests, creating tests and getting a sense of how they are doing. It is not about major corporations trying to tell teachers what they need to be doing and how they need to deal with their students and finding out the results five to six was later. It needs to be more immediate and responsive to the students in front of us. Just testjust test more, make better tests. I argue we need fewer tests that do not assure kids performing the lowest have the school swept out from under the. Wrote the book this is not a test. Also an education activist, Public School teacher. If you want to call and ask questions, perspectives you questions, perspectives you have seen, the line for you 20278000 zero, so joining uk a little bit about what it is like being a Public School teacher as far as your day is concerned. How much your day is in front of a classroom . What are the issues you face as a teacher . Generally i pretty much live and breathe this stuff all these other things that are incomprehensible. I wake up at about 530 the morning. I get to school about 730. My kids started around eight and immediately i have to deal with the students. Not just doing. Are they competent . With her home life was like. Always ready. Response has to be 200 pounds place of love. The phase of them dealing with a lot of what i have to deal with them daily basis. The other 50 of the wellbeing and often percent of the wellbeing and often times is a struggle it does not come in to feature education debates. Us throughout the weekend im already thinking about working with my students very early in the morning. Thinkingthinking about how im going to work with some of my kids. And throughout the day even during my break, how i can help my students become better butat what they do. The social emotional aspects. Give an example. Like. Tunes you have come in without eating breakfast. Students who have had the parents work until midnight. Parents who work not just the regular 95 but from ten to midnight. Get some sleep. Of course that affects the livelihoods because when they wake up my students are already tired. Oftentimes they come in with those very issues. Im also teaching middle school. Thats a whole other level. Its a little messy. When your working with students, their lives are changing by around thembut around them they dont really have a set foundation for how they will live their lives for the teacher has to do is reframe a lot of their frustration and anger and flesh out what is going on. As soon as we talk about the do now or the objective. So the thing that i do is try to make sure that i do no where the students are coming from and im always like, okay, this is where we need to get to, really High Standard. You have these issues, and i we will work with you until we get to the. Where you are ready to move on to the next level. That has been my drive. First call for you is from oscar in vienna, virginia. Hi. Good morning. Ii am so happy that you commented on what i was going to say. I can remember when i was a kid my our university graduate. I grew up in dc. I was blessed. I grew up in washington dc. Im bilingual hispanic, but i can tell you, i was almost put back in the 2nd grade when ii was a kid because of my language proficiency. They were testing kids. And this was way before, this is the 70s. Left great school and 73. Our member in the 2nd grade the principal had to talk with my mom landing of the Principals Office and ask her, do you speak two languages. The note said, this is private school, no, i dont. Well, this is the perfect example of how there is a disconnect with the education system. Because kids can speak the language differently. They treat them as if there is nothing current level and there is no such thing. Because i speak the language. This kids go home and dont have a parent to help them with their homework, like you just described, my mom had two jobs. I my mom had two jobs. I didnt see her come home because i was already asleep she would come home and midnight, and this is the perfect example because most of these kids are coming from two jobs. Each parent has two jobs working day and night. One gust of the restaurant, the other goes to clean house. Comes home and goes back to clean offices. Helpoffices. Got help you if your singleparent like i was. There is the disconnect command im so happy you verbalized it clearly. Clearly. I can only imagine what would happen tickets today and some of the schools as a disconnect with the teachers dont have the time. Thank you for your comment. Thats a good connection. Lets talk about that policy wise. I have a lot of students who come from the dominican republic, el salvador, a bunch of different places all across central and south america. Of course myself im dominican haitian. But i notice is the policies that we have regarding testing are also way off. When you have a student who has just come in and does not speak much english at all if at all, maybe they us on the english and pop culture and thats about it, it takes a good three to 44 years for students to fully acclimated to the language and that we only give students were learning we dont give them much of a bridge. A bridge. We give them a year and a day before they have to take us this exam. There giving one for the general masses and the specific in this test that has all four modalities of speaking, listening, writing command reading. If we haveif we have a test that gives this widely double letup . If they can speak one cant this be the other . I really dont get what thats about. Some of the policies we have dont really mesh with what is happening with our actual students and often times we need to learn how to step back a little bit from this testing. Nick from california. Good morning. Theres a theres a lot i would like to say. First of all, i think schools ought to go back to kindergarten through 3rd grade. Concentrate on the basics, basics, reading, writing, math, spelling, arithmetic and math. They need to learn to use their brain, not go through all this electronic gadget junk come how to push a button for this, how to push a button for that. They need to learn to use their brain. They also need to go back to teach kids how to write. They canwrite. They can do cursive, and they are very sloppy uneven printing. They need to go back to basic. Then he gradually get them into the electronic gadget stuff that everybody must have. And then anyhow, that is basically it. Let the kids learn to use with there learning in class or outside of class aa little bit to get to no what its for. Why are they learning this stuff . Let them use it outside of class. And for testing, yes, teachers should give them a little bit just to see how they are doing. Thenthen increase the test as the year goes on so that are they really learning what youre teaching them . Thank you. Lets get a response. Go ahead. A couple of things. I do believe our students all need an equitable form of education. I think that is going to have to come from a standard that is set high. That is a lot of promise. Peoplepromise. People talk about how we need Higher Standards for our students. I can somewhat agree in the sense of we need to have students who are in fact ready to go in to any sort of profession and not just be able to read a vcr manual to learn how to do these things. Having said that when you dont have a connection between the standards and the practitioners from of the teachers are in the classroom talking about what it means to have students who are ready to go, then we cant have a real conversation because the practitioners need to be at the table. If we dont have them at the table well have a real conversation. There is this discussion about digital art the lack of a better term for right now and this idea that we are going to lose something if we dont teach kids the basics. I think to that end we have to find a way to deal with the current reality which is the students can cool pretty much anything. But then how do you trust the things that are in front of you if you dont have those sensors that are there to help you out. Teachers have to find a way to think deeper and teach kids how to think deeper. A lot of what we have right now is about teaching kids how to filter out information and working with the information that is there in order to make a viable argument and be able to create a better sense of what is going on around them parents 202 dash 748 dash 2000. Here is a parent. Good morning. Firsttime caller. Thank you caller. Thank you for having me. I have a question relating to k12 education and academic standards and relating it to higher education. The question i have is i grew grew up in Baltimore CityPublic School system we didnt have the adequate preparation. Why is it looked at from the perspective of the child wants to major in engineering they assume that child already knows allhas one and just needs a review. I thinki think thats a great question because i too went through the struggle. I thought about the way that i was brought up in terms of the math pedagogy that i need to learn my often found that there was a disconnect between my senior year of high school, but when i went into the 1st year of college i said, i dont know as much as i think i do. What i found myself doing was working with other people who did know. Often times what we miss out on is not so much about the individual knowledge but how we teach students and just generally how we teach them to think deeper about the material in front of them and whether we teach them in a way that allows them to think deeper. Deeper. Calculus one through three and the whole sequence does not allow students to think about things in terms of memorization. I often wonder if the way we prepare students is in a way that teaches rogue memorization or do we have them with a nice mix of direct and implicit instruction for students can learn how to decompose some of the things that are in front of them and work with ideas clearly. That is where math needs to go, aa direction that says you will get some material to memorize, but there is some you will not be able to memorize because you must solve problems that we may have the answers to or that we may not. A teacher from Sterling Virginia is next. Good morning. I was i teach in the eastern part of Loudoun County were about 50 percent of our students are latino descent. We have a lot of pll students. A lot of it falls back on the district. We dont have a lot of resources to reach our students. Western county has little to no command therefore our county does not give a lot of support. It is left up to teachers. Last year we were having pll students. We did not have the support. They cut our program, so it was up to us. We banded together and start supplying the students. I think teachers get a bad rap a lot of the stuff. Saying that we are not theyre are supportive, but we are theyre and care more about the students than people think. And on the other end we get the wealthier people in the county that like to tell us how to do our jobs. I have a masters degree and worked very hard and them working toward my specialist degree. I have had parents tell me i wish i had your job and did nothing all day. It is disheartening, but i believe the teachers are there and other work on behalf of the students, even if we are not given the resources which happens more often than you think. Talk a little bita little bit about the testing experience, the state requirement forces you. What kindwhat kind of standardized tests does the state require students to take . Are you theyre . I think hes gone. When it comes to resources think hes right on point. We have a disparity between the poorest and richest district. Money does not resolve anything. Why do we not create the same level . Is because we have so much gerrymandering redlining when we have students who have less we need to give them more. When students have more we need to give them just enough so that they can make it. Equity is very much like were just giving up. Is it enough . I dont believe so. For me to do a better funding that where we can have better preparation. To your. , this is something that is kind of while, in new york state we have testing literally from march all the way through june. We have more than one test a week. It can become aa little daunting when you have to try and teach at the same time. Really talk to them and have a better sense of how they are doing academically. Im coming from the perspective of a student. They only taught us what was on standardized test. They were pretty much forced to. Because of that i did not know what it was like to learn until i got to college. My interest was not sparked until i got to college until i took philosophy and psychology. Coming from that point of you i agree with your thoughts on socioeconomic status. I also think you should add sexism because subtleties of racism and discrimination in general and of course sexism , they are very subtle but have a huge impact. Patient have everyone involved to be aware so that we can try to prevent a continuation of the prejudice that goes on in this country. And i think your comment about whether your teaching was to direct, i think it is to direct because i did not understand that methodologic the methodologic until i took quantitative literacy muscle for your college because their teaching what was on the test. I rantest. I ran into the same problem with the gre, they were testing for logic. So i think at the end of the day what is important is that we sparked the kids interest and provedprove to them that learning is fun and joyful by teaching them what is interesting and through that they will have a chance to go online for themselves. Themselves. I did not study days the test. I aced the test because all of the study. I think that is basically the. That i want to make. We will let him respond. Yes. I love when students talk. So you . I often find that students have the key to education reform. And what shes talking about theyre is this idea we do need to look a students not just from a racial perspective but from a gender lens and all these other lenses that are developing. Lg bt students. We need to learn how to be more responsive to them and their needs and make sure the expectations for our students are raised. We can have students that are in one school all of color were all girls and we decide we are going to teach them really High Standard of math or science. We need to find a way to do it that not just makes it interesting but that connects it to the things they are about to do. We develop a sense or even a toolkit for which they can progress in the future. That is a lot of what she is talking about. I appreciate her comments regarding pedagogy. And i guess implicit instruction for students are learning on there own and getting some of the solutions on there own. Joining us, education activist, the author of the book this is not a test. As a post. Com. One of the offense that you have, aligned goes like this thing as a Public Education as an entity that was only built for a small set of people to get in and our country resisted adjustment. Generally when you look at some of the federal intervention, you look at the federal conventions and have to have a National Guard come in and say, we need to do this better. When there was a mandate to desegregate schools people resisted by opting out the students and pushing them in the private school. When you had the closing of an achievement gap in the late 70s to early 80s between students of color and white students when that achievement gap started getting smaller and smaller people resisted by cutting some of the social services. I think that is where the federal government does have a role. We must ensure all of our students and schools have equity. Fortunately Public Schools generally dont have the proper mechanisms by which to address equity because they not they were not meant to be equitable. A lot of times we would have historically Public Schools as an entity that ensures equity. Test the case then why are all of our schools so disparate in terms of their achievement . And i dont think it has to do with race or any of that other stuff. A lot of it has to do with just funding in the way that we approach schooling. One set ofone set of kid learns how to read a vcr manual and another set take us to learn and explore and debate. Thatdebate. That is where we need to push our country to reform our schools in such a way the Public Schools are the foundation. Full citizenship, citizenship,citizenship, every student is learning how to read, write, and do math. Take advantage of the benefits of our country has to offer. If we cant have that in an equitable sense, have our students be able to attain that citizenship and we dont really have equity. To that topic how does new york handle the topic of School Choice, moving a student to a better education district and where do you stand personally . Personally i believe that the way that new york is handling it is fairly awful. What, i mean, by that is there was a point where new york was one of the more progressive in terms of funny schools. We have regressedwe have regressed so far from that point. Isblue state struggling to get white students and black students to sit together at schools. And that comes from the policy of the governor, which seems to be handinhand with some of the Hedge Fund Managers and multimillionaires that have taken over a lot of the discussion of education reform in new york. Charter schools, Public Schools as well, and private schools, we have all of this School Choice. But a lot of it is a false choice. When you have schools that are brightly colored and has brandnew paint and is funded by wine and cheese and caviar, and then you have another school that it still has decrepit , a school from 50 years is not axample, that choice. Of course the students and parents will choose the school that is brandnew and brightly painted. I think the length of its, especially venture have favor dont want to fund schools. They want to have a situation where you have one school that may not fund at the same level at the same time. They have to be funded in a certain way. Thats why Public Schools should have to be with all the School Choice thats going on, then youre going to have segregation, youre going to have disproportionate achievement gaps. Its not really choice. From new york, paul is next. Caller itspa a pleasure to have a program like cspan. But my question is when my children went to school before testing, i thought there was an error of collaboration between teachers and principal and the focus was the children. Now i find it its more of an adverserary role. When do people realize that no matter what teachers do in eight hourst of a classroom if its nt supported in a home environment or us creating a can i civic cee are not going to be able to raise the children up. We have to do something as a society to make sure they have the same opportunities when they go home at night as every other child was, and thank you very much and ihe appreciate your opinion. Host thats an amazing comment. I thank you for that. The principal and the teachers do collaborate a lot. What no child left behind and a lot of the federal policy along with state policy that have come out of no child left behind, came from this idea that we need to makeam sure that people are always competing with each other. School against schools and a lot of us are serving the same kids. If you have a real democracy, every teacher is serving every student. Every principal is serving every teacher. The way we have to look at the collaboration between principals and teachers is such that the principal is the teacher, also a teacher of teachers. We are really all all teachers trying to serve our students. You always have that meant mentality. If we are fighting with each other, were not teaching our children. Host youre on with your guest. Caller im going fine. Im listening to the comments and i have three points that i want to make if you allow me time to make. I remember whe n my daughter was a school. Parents have to get involved also. Youas cant let the kids sit upn the school halls and the parents sitting at home. No. Whenus my daughter got in troube at the school where she went to, i took the time of my job, i went to that school, i was out there with her. If the parents get involved with their children, see what their children, im sure the principal will let them walk around. I come and check on my daughter to see what he or she is doing. Im down here in south georgia before you hit the florida line. I think that the government should go check out all of the schools to see what the teachers are doing. Im nothe saying youre a bad teacher. You went to school and you deserve that. But theres some teachers dont take the time because i know that last year went all the way to 12th grade and could not pass a single math test. Can you tell me whats wrong with that problem . All the way to the 12th grade, that school allowed him to sit in that classroom and say, you cant pas the math test. Thank you, have a very blessed day. Guest i think its a couple of things. As a teacher my responsibility to build a relationship with the students that are o in front of me. Calling every parent, theres going to be lapses and miscommunication. Generally i try to have a Good Relationship with the parents as well as students. Generally i work with students, the thing that is i can control. Thison idea that we can work wih bad teachers, if you will, whatever that means by just inspecting, w and thats fine. Theres ay real criteria of wht makes a good teacher, a competent teacher, a teacher, for example, that got very good grades with the students but some may not feel competent in their class for whatever reason. There are thing that is can things that can happen. We dont take Education Research all. That seriously because if this country should, then we would have a much larger for what education ought to be. Host one more call. From tennessee. Caller i want to know if youre aware that kids social competence was key to success and this was in the u. S. Today but it showed young youngsters arean more likely to graduate, better predictor than race, family, sex or income. Lets see, here is the last little bit. Preschoolers were healthier by age 32 even after researches included iq. Finland does other schools. All their teachers have a masters degree. The schools that are not doing as good, the schools that are doing good they will send teachers in to help the schools socalled not doing good. Amazing. Thank you. I want to talk too extended time and giving more time for teachers to work with students, more, more, more. I think thats going to fix a gap. What i also think instead use our time more effectively. One of my main points, i notice that the america School System has teachers in front of students for about 1300 hours, which doesnt sound like a lot, but when you look at the average nation only spends on 6700 hours in front of students. Everybody talks about finland. When yout look at finland in terms of the hours spent teachers in front of student, i believe its around 700. The other time isnt just about hanging out. Its about planning and what teachers and student dont get to see, all the planning, grading paper, calling parents and assuring that all students are working diligently. These things dont just happen in theg classroom, they happen when the lights are off, if you will. Host before we let you go we will be in talk with our viewers about the movement thats going across the United States of participants keeping their students home during standarized. First of all, what do you think of this movement and do you support it and what does it say overallt about the standarized . Guest we have to recognize that 20 comes from people that have the agencies. I also find that people specially people of color who are in Public Schools dont often have mechanisms of absurd of testing that our students go through. Well,mo teachers should just to get tested. S i also find that when you have that much testing, you dont really get a lot of feedback back. Anything, you stress out students even more so they giving them so many tests. If we are going to opt out of fine, lets keep doing it. Also, we need to make sure that we have equitable systems, pushing equity button because all the folks that are opting out, its great that you are doing, and youre doing because your particular student shouldnt have to feel the burden of testing. They also dont have the schools in an equitable situation. The teachers are not always competent to the things that are going on with them. Opting out and pushing back what we consider a current status quo and making sure that all students o and all teachers and all parents have the equity and the voice in our policy to push back against overtesting of our student. Host our guest jose louisvilleson, this is not a test. Thanks for joining us in cspan. Guest thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Marks tenth anniversary of hurricane ca katrina. She tours the lower floor. Its not really for us to say that it should it be rebuilt or not rebuilt. We need a flood Protection System thats going to work. When you see this and just a few blocks up the road is with all the vacant houses. You would think, first thing is first. That house cannot be rebuilt, you know. Its not possible. You can still smell that death smell. Somebody tells you smell bad. These are the house that is they are finding people because they cant go in there when they dem demolish it. They bring the dogs first. A typical house where they would find a body still. Thats just part of an event of 2006, a year after Hurricane Katrina hit the u. S. Gulf coast. You can see more katrina events this week starting at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan. On the next washington journal, editor, hes talk about the president ial campaign. Our guest a Community Organizer and black lives matter activist, plaus your phone calls, tweets, washington journal live 7 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan. The u. S. Did achieve improvement in security but nonetheless ultimately worse in how it ends. We dont know how it will be end. It is a moment of opportunity. But its also possible that still five years down the road we will be back in use of war in afghanistan. Isis is slowly emerging in the country. Its much more worst than the taliban. And so if we end up five years down the war in a civil war and safe haven for taliban and isis, i would say sunday night at 8 00 eastern pacific on cspans q a. Last week they speak at the iowa state fair. This is 15 minutes. Its all about saving the American Dream tanned idea of and the idea of america. Every time obama speaks its all about government spending, dependence. I dont know about you, but that is not American Dream that our parents taught us. I want to briefly tell you my parents story and tell you what we have got to do and save the American Dreams. My daddy is one of nine children. The only one in the family to get past the fifth grade. Now i know because we heard those stories every single day growing up. [laughs] here is the amazing thing. Almost 45 years ago the first time my parents got on a plane, they came halfway across the world to louisiana. They had never visited, they had known anybody that had gone back, they left their families, friends, my mom was pregnant with me. I try to explain with my kids, you couldnt google back then, there was no online. They were coming to an idea as much as they were coming to a place. They were coming to the idea of freedom and opportunity. They were coming to the American Dream. When they got here, my mom went to school at lsu. Thats right. My dad, he didnt come here to be dependent on the government. He got his first job calling through the yellow pages. Six months later i was born. I was what you would politely call a preexisting condition. There was no obama care, no reforms. I love what my daddied next. He went to the doctor, shook his hand and promised to send him a check every month until he paid that bill in full. And thats exactly what he did. [applause] thats what we used to do in this country. If you skip a payment, do they take a payment back. You were just a bad baby, we would have sent you back. The reason i tell you the story, my parents came to chase the American Dream, they caught the American Dream, they lived the American Dream. I want my children and grandchildren to live that dream. While im talking about my parents, when my parents came to this country, they came to this country legally when they came to this country. [shouting] [applause] very good. Now, folks, immigration policy can either make a country stronger or weaker. A dumb immigration policy makes it weaker and that is what we have to today. We dont know a thousandpage bill. It is time to secure the border once and for all. [applause] [shouting] now, look, we can get it done if six months if we were serious. The reality is you have big business interest in dc that dont want the border secure, they want amnesty, they pay proprotestors, they try to silence free speech, we are going to stand to the big business interest, we dont care [applause] the big business interest can buy as many t shirts and banners as they want, we are going to secure our border, we are a nation of laws. [applause] the Republican Party is not the party of big government. We should not become the party of big business either. Let me tell you this, it is time to put an end to sanctuary cities. Its fine the Congress Wants to defund them, lets do more. I have a partners in crime package. Lets hold thos mayors responsible for the crimes committed by people that shouldnt be here in the first place. Lets lock them up. [applause] [shouting] look, the left, they dont want us to be a melting pot. Here is the ridiculous thing. They think if its impolitically to think that if you want to come legally, learn english. [applause] [shouting] adopt our values and when you get here role up roll up your sleeves and get to work. [applause] i dont know about you but im tired of hyphenated americans. We are not rich americans, we are not poor americans, were all americans, its time to stand up to this nonsense. The divider in chief h left says it is politically incorrect. I think its foolish. If you want to come to the country, you should want to be an american. Nobody is forcing them to come here in the first place. Plus [applause] lets be clear, immigration without assimilation, thats not immigration. Its invasion and we must not let that happen in america. [applause] [shouting] you want to see the contrast, see whats happening in europe. Second and third immigrant, we must not let that happen in america. We shouldnt give anybody freedom to come here and use those freedoms to undermine the freedom for other people. Its time for america to have a smart immigration policy. If you want to come here, be an american, learn the language, adopt our values and get to work. [applause] and again, the big business interest, they can same them and interrupt speeches as they want, it is time to stand up to big businesses and say, were taking our country back. That gets me to my next point, as republican and conservatives, we have to do something different. It is time for us to embrace our own principles. What do i mean by that . You heard jeff bush to say that we have to be willing to lose the primary to win the election. I disagree with that. Im here to tell you that never works. If we do that again we will lose again and we will deserve to lose again. [applause] it is time for us to embrace our own principles. You know, when did this concern of society give up on our believes. Conservatism it is not dead in america, it is simply dead in washington, d. C. It is time to stand up to the permitment political needers. What changed in dc, nothing. They told us they would fight amnesty, they told us they would appeal obama care. They are afraid of winning, only in dc is losing a good thing. Im here to tell you this, theyre scared to fight for freedom. They are scared to fight against a new government in time and we cant afford, they are afraid to fight for Less Government dependence. It is time for us to stand up and take our party back. It is time for us to put an end of nonsense of politicians. Lets take america back. [applause] think how different our country would be if they had to live under the same rules as they applied to the rest of us. Its time to get legislators and pay them for every day they stay out of dc. I want to Say Something thats politically incorrect, the idea of america is flipping away right in front of us. What do i mean by that . What i mean by that is that Many Americans take may recollect for granted. My parents would never take america for granted. Every day they give thanks to. Look at what we are seeing. Hillary clinton, barack obama, they are trying to turn european nightmares. [applause] these other two arent any better. They wont admit. The idea of america is slipping away from us. 18 trillion of debt. A government create Entitlement Program that we cant afford that we have today. Our president that made truce on iran, the greatest responsible of terrorist in the world. He cant even say the words radical islamic terrorism. How is he going to beat our enemies if he cant define our enemies. You have the epa regulating the water in our backyard. Weve got now a bigger more expensive, more intrusive federal government than ever before. The idea of america is flipping away, and that is why it is time to stand up and take it back. I dont know about you, im not going to let the idea of america slip away as long as ive got breath. I will to everything i can to get the idea of america back. [applause] [shouting] the idea of america has generated more wealth than any other civilization in the history of the world. It has done more for freedom than any other civilization in the world. It has done more to fight for the defenseless than any other civilization in the world. We must not let it slip away. Shame on those fools in dc who are giving it away. Same on us if we allow them to do that. There are great speakers running for president. Look, im not the best looking candidate. My daddy wasnt president. I dont have a reality tv show. I have the backbone, i have the experience to get this job done and ill be ready on the first day. We cant afford the next commander in chief will be across the table from a putin or iotola, he better not need a teleprompter, talking points or great staff. We need a president that can do the job on the first day. Im asking you to believe again. Im asking you to fight again with gods grace, we can rescue the idea before it slips away. We cannot wait a minute. Im asking you to believe again today, not tomorrow, not next week or next month. I will say in closing, the folks sent out here by the big business interest, the folks that want open borders, if you want freedom, follow the laws, do what my parents did. [applause] [shouting] we are the greatest country in the history of the world. We have a president who doesnt follow the law. The Supreme Court that doesnt follow the constitution, we have Hillary Clinton that thinks the laws dont apply to her. If you want freedom, if you love america, follow the laws, learn english, adopt our values and get to work. God bless yall and thank yall very much. [applause] [shouting] up next on book tv former congressmen bernie frank talks about social issues and economics. It was signed into law in 2010. [applause] thank you and welcome barney frank. First ill ask some questions and then well go to questions from the audience which i have one of these cards, so i will access or reject them. [applause] i was hoping you can say a little bit about the t