Playing out on the front lines of healthcare, and how those harms can drive the decisions and the policies Going Forward that can affect other platforms are held accountable and how they behave. So lets start with a short video if we can. To illustrate the damaging impact that disinformation can have on healthcare professional professionals, on consumers who turn to social media for information, about covid19 generally and about how to protect themselves. Take a look. I have had colleagues that shared with me tragic cases of intentional bleach that were aimed at preventing or curing covid19 by patients who had been misled by social media. That is how the disinformation has spread in our communities. All the disinformation is putting my patient at risk in the sense if people come in that it had symptoms and they havent gone to see a physician because the decided the virus isnt ist real. They were told its just like the flu. By the time they came to the hospital, one of them died on the spot. It was too late to save them. Obviously we have all changed but now its a new chapter which weve never been before and how Healthcare Providers from all of the world get together to try to fight this, to try to fight disinformation and save lives. The social media platforms not only could do more, should do more, and honestly the leaders of those companies, i dont know how the sleep at night. This misinformation and disinformation is affecting Public Health, affecting my life, i patients life, the lives of vulnerable populations and its causing harm. And so there you have some sense obviously, on what people in frontline, doctors are experiencing now. We will turn into a distinguished group of people to talk about how covid19 has led to real harms that a certain patients, this disinformation around covid as they say. We could hear from frontline doctors were dealing with patients life and death, and lawmakers are focused as i said earlier on sides, on covid disinformation and on the responsibility of the platforms. Senator patty murray from washington state, democrat on a health, education, labor and Pensions Committee has jurisdiction. So does congressman David Cicilline, chair of the House CommitteeJudiciary Committee antitrust subcommittee looking hard at the role of the platforms and the context of editors and other things, and from United Kingdom the distinguished Damian Collins is one the founder of the National Committee on disinformation, conservative member of parliament who is conducted a number of hearings on disinformation social media platforms responsibility. We are all also going to hear from two doctors because is where the action is taken place over the consequences are the greatest. Patients patients lives, in hos where people are battling this pandemic very directly and personally. Doctor moreau and doctor weiss. Dr. Murray design the video, an epidemiologist and a medical doctor having received his degrees come served on the senior faculty in your in new york. A fellow at the National Clinicians scholar at yale school of medicine, a graduate of Duke University medical school. Talk a little bit about, more about your experience and why you think this is as serious the patients lives and to your and other doctors practice as you d do. Thank thank you, frank, thanu to organized panelists and audience. My blessings to you all and your families during this tragic time. As a parent and physician my neighborhood, i personally have borne witness to how lives propagate on the internet without the virus sort of kill people. My experiences, my hospital a blur of breathing machines, video calls, family members saying goodbye alone, of overstretched nurses and physicians, respiratory technicians and other clinicians and healthcare workers, all of us through it all i gained strength from the patients and families who are hopeful, and fearless. So much of this horror show was preventable. While there are many contributing factors, chief among them is misinformation, fake news, that covid19 was created by the government of china, that social distancing measures are ineffective, athome remedies can prevent the people of african descent are immune, the people of chinese descent are more likely to spread disease. That closure of businesses are a political plot, that bleach cures covid. As Speaker Pelosi articulated, this is a true moment of national here in the United States and global reckoning. The internet is essential infrastructure. Just as we hold Companies Accountable for polluting hour air and waterways in food, we must hold Companies Accountable for the deaths caused by polluting hour families, our kids and our communities [inaudible] a Global Movement of doctors, nurses and other Health Professionals is going to hold tech Companies Accountable, i and other doctors work to issue an open letter, facebook, twitter, google and youtube telling them are no longer going to be fighting two pandemic so much and it must stop giving covid misinformation, the oxygen that it is taking to destroy our communities. I just thank you all for your time and your effort and your fearlessness in combating this, and for joining us all together in this moment of reckoning to save lives and to make our communities, families, kids healthier. Dr. Maru, thank you for the work that you are doing with all these patients and people who are sick and suffering. And for your voice, the levy wrote and all the other actions you are taking to try to also bring pressure to bear on as you say this info dimmick. I would like to think George Washington [inaudible] im having little bit of difficulty hearing you. Pratchett its become just a bit. I dont know if it is my volume on this end or yours but if you give us all the more well see if we can absolutely. Im a a black woman, a pediatrician and im a servant of the community. I invite you to consider how inaccurate messaging on social media impacts black and brown communities in the context of covid19. This disinformation often compounds the mistrust the black and brown individuals feel in this country on a regular basis here the seeds of mistrust have been so at so many levels from Historical Context of the tuskegee experiment to the current Racial Injustice and Structural Racism we are witnessing through this pandemic. Sometimes individuals live in more [inaudible] sometimes black and brown individuals are often the essential we didnt increase risk when exposed to the stars. I remember in the early phase of covid19 personally reading many comments on social media and plying the black people could not get the virus. It was deemed a hoax and the message was spread that covid19 was no worse than the flu. I was disheartened and unnerved by this come often try to combat these mr. Speaker so little was known. For a group of refugees, these messages really rang true. They didnt think they could get the virus because it the only individual space on social media were white or those who were world travelers. So consider how this disinformation, this imagery, directly contribute to the delight of testing for my minorities even when they were sick because they didnt fit the criteria that was perpetrated online. There were even circumstance of her patients were sick and asked for testing but they were turned away because they didnt fit the criteria. This often led to minorities being sicker and presenting later cost lives. As one colleague of mine described, he took care of one severely ill latino patient and he was very fearful of even coming to the hospital because of the Disinformation Campaign online. He was afraid he would be deported and separated from his family all for coming to get treatment. I have gotten all types of questions during this time. Ive been asked on social media if wearing mask for too long could lead to the Carbon Dioxide poisoning. Drinking bleach should be done as a precaution, and actually worry as a position because of the harmful this widely spread disinformation will have my patience. Another instance, its been widely should an Digital Media platforms that hot climates and seasonal change will kill the virus. Before my colleagues have taken care of patients on the u. S. Southern border, this particularly led to major consequences, people being less cautious, people not social distancing, people not wanting to wear masks. My last point of concern that i grapple with currently is how all of the circulating disinformation spread across social media will impact minority groups when the vaccine is available. I hope people begin to think very critically about the messaging thats apple fight on social media and having trusted authorities to decide that information come more clear information at the time of such great crisis. We grieve for all those who lost their lives and for the loved ones during this pandemic. Dr. Weiss, thank you very, very much, and really again want to thank you for the work you are doing with your patience and with your community to save lives. Before we go to the legislators, dr. Weiss, let me ask you one very quick question and perhaps back to dr. Maru, very, very quickly. You have heard with your own ears from your patience the disinformation reflected from what they have picked up through social media, correct . Yes. Okay. This is that something you read about. You were hearing this in your practice with your patience. Do you ask of them where did this come from . Do you tell them, do you know if this is a fake information . What do the county about disinformation disinformation that they are getting . Oftentimes asked directly to look at a specific reference. For instance, theres this post on x platform. Can you walk me through how this mask can cause Carbon Dioxide poison . So they will show you the platform and you will see it is fake information, bogus information . Yes, i have been personally messaged online regarding some of this disinformation. So sometimes its an form of infographics pick sometimes its an form of direct message. Is anything there in your patient shows you that i wear it is come to you some i can see that it has been flagged, that it is suspicious, that it is a Bad Information . Or does it look to your patience completely credible . I would say it looks completely credible. Theres no flak on it to say this is disinformation. Dr. Maru, have you and others wrote to the social media platform explaining and complaining, what response did you get . We certainly havent seen much of the leadership response whatsoever from the companies on the specific concerns that we have. In fact, when, dr. Weiss mentioned about cracking the record and about detoxifying the algorithm so that they are not actively promoting and i would also say profiting from the spread of misinformation, and thats why we really collectively as a Global Community need to continue to put pressure on these companies for them to be forced to do the right thing for our families and communities. Thank you. Lets turn to our legislators and now. Again, three legislators from the United States and United Kingdom who are especially focused on covid19 disinformation around and the responsibility of the platforms with respect to this disinformation. Senator patty murray, lets start with you. First, your response to what you just heard from these doctors. Thanks for having me, and thank you to both dr. Maru and dr. Weiss for the incredible stories. Its so clear that in order to fight the spread of covid19 and keep our communities and family safe we have to fight the spread of disinformation, whether it comes from shadowing corners of the internet or shocking as it seems on the podium of the president of United States. Its challenging enough to battle a new virus or we are constantly learning new information, whether its about how it spreads or how it affects people or how to fight it, but its even more challenging when the unknown are being not by experts, not by science by rumor, rumors started by people with cruel intentions. Some are spread by people with good information. They just may be scared and looking for answers. But too few are stop by those with the power to set the record straight. Weve already seen how Bad Information could put lives at risk, how racist tropes about the virus has really stoked discrimination, how inaccurate comparison to the flu have given people a false sense of security and how unproven treatment can have deadly consequences. This pandemic really has laid bare the reality that fighting disinformation isnt just a question of two or false. It really is a matter of life or death true or false. I think that more than ever we need trusted reliable that mightve looked to the white house for leadership but instead of fighting disinformation weve seen this president repeatedly undermined the credibility of the white house and use the platform of the presidency to give falsehood, comparing the virus to flu, calling testing overrated, suggesting we look at bleach or sunshine as treatment. The statements are just wrong. They really are dangerous point todays discussion really important. Im glad were having it come an opportunity to make clear just what is at stake for Public Health here in the fight against disinformation, and to continue to demand that the Trump Administration allow science to guide our response and communication about this virus. I would like to ask dr. Maru, how important is this disinformation is flagged on media platforms including social media when some of the information is coming from the president himself . Absolutely. The president should be held accountable and should, for the spread of misinformation, just like all of us. It particularly dangerous when individuals in such great positions of power are spreading misinformation, and its on us as a Global Community to hold the platforms accountable to not allowing such dangerous, such a dangerous misinformation to be spread. It literally is killing people, and we cannot emphasize that enough, and nobody should be immune to any corrective actions that these platforms take. Thank you. And dr. Weiss, incredible statement at a critically important time about Racial Disparities and health disparities, and you dedicated your career to this and want to ask you how does disinformation impact our ability to address the Significant Health disparities we are seeing when it comes to covid19 . I think the impact of disinformation is very critical. So many people look to social media for their information at this time. Some of the youth in particular look solely to social media, even in the context of some of our healthcare professionals, individuals that care for the patients. Often get this disinformation so were often trying to combat disinformation one oneonone g patient interactions, but also what individuals are hearing. Thank you, and this disinformation about an infectious aggressive disease outbreak has the potential to harm every aspect of our response, including the care that patients get. Thats especially true when the disease is not all like covid19, doctor sais the challenging task of treating a disease about which we know very little. So dr. Weiss, how does disinformation provide health cures ability to understand the new disease and advise their patients . We often seek out trusted sources, journal articles, through the Scientific Community in hopes of getting the most accurate current uptodate information. But that is clouded oftentimes by the misinformation that we see distributed on different platforms. It takes a lot of dedication to reading, being open to listening to your colleagues, looking at trusted sources for information so we can then share the trusted information to our patients. Thank you. Thank you to both of you. And thank you, senator murphy at really appreciate it. I think youre going to hang threat and going to say to the journalists were part of this conversation or watching this conversation, please feel free to put your questions in and in a few minutes i will turn to some of those questions from others who are participating to turn to the legislators who joined us here. Lets move next to congressman David Cicilline in. Thank you for joining us. I hope youre healthy. I hope youre finding some relief from this at the numbers are plateauing or coming down. You have concentrated on disinformation for quite some time now. Obviously they covid19 crisis we are discussing makes even more critical because lives are literally in the balance here. Take a few minutes to get us your perspective and what you make of this conversation that youve heard here today, but in particular what can be done, what must be done by the platforms to address this problem . Thank you, frank. Good morning. Its great to be with you, and thank you for including me in part of todays really important conversation on the realworld effects of social media disinformation on Peoples Health and safety, and up through the course to be with panelists such as a speaker, several of my other colleagues. This important discussion really touches on several of the topics that event actively discussed as part of hearing before the International Grand committee and a happy to join Damian Collins and some of the other members of the igc for todays conversation as well. As with all all the facebook ge and other social platforms are designed to keep users on the platforms whatever the cost. Because disinformation propaganda and hateful speech are good for business and thats why these companies will not change unless their Business Model change as well. Before the outbreak of the covid19 pandemic we knew this Business Model magnifies extremist content online. Theres been a spike in hate crimes worldwide due to misinformation, propaganda, ms conspiracy theories of social media and in search result. Facebook and googles host enable countless pages targeted advertisements and suggested content that a dedicated to conspiracy theories and call to violence. Content that often violates facebook and googles stated policy yet these terms are often too lax in enforcing. For example, it was only after the what supremacist rally in charlottesville that google and facebook removed the link to the daily stoermer, a neonazi website for violating the terms of service. They should not have been a close call or required National Attention to get right. Allowing harmful content to proliferate all while these platforms continue to profit from it. In the culminating era disInformation Online about the virus is costing lives every single day as a group of 2000 leading Health Experts around the world noted in a recent letter are discussing on this panel, false claims of the Coronavirus Spread faster than the virus itself online. Doctors, nurses and other healthcare professional fighting between penned the mexican the spread of the virus and the spread of this Information Online. Whats more, companies the facilitate and profit from the spread of disinformation have not done nearly enough to save lives by countering it. When companies to attempt to police information, such as facebook removed hundreds of thousands of posts about false cures, there their sources they are still unsuccessful. This practice must end. Dominant platforms must be held accountable for the way they spread and epiphytes harmful content online. Moreover, we should request companies that serve increasing essential Communication Networks should have Business Models that profit from this harmful content in the first place. Staging a Business Model to turn a blind eye to this content, restricting to build a platforms to harvest peoples data to serve cable advertisements or removing Liability Protections that shell platforms ability policymakers are in the world confront this issue in a series and meaningful way. There are enormous problems with series harms that are not confined. Before a close what you take a moment to talk about the role of the International Grand committee, examining this issue. Last year is proud to join the igc. While we plan to hold the next meeting in washington, d. C. This summer, this is unfortunately not possible due to the pandemic. I recently conferred with a chair in the pioneering Damian Collins and others and we agree it essential to continue to build International Consensus on these issues, and with that in mind with and hold a Virtual Meeting as a committee in early fall as a continuation of his efforts. So thank you again for including in this important discussion, and thank you to dr. Maru and dr. Weiss for really important testimony they provided. I yield back to you frank. Yield back to me. This is good. That means youll let me in congress. Let me ask you this before we move on to Damian Collins and then open it up to questions around the panel. Theres a lot of talk and and t heard from you as well about holding the platforms accountable, and whether its risk of losing section 230 in the early or right of other things, theres a lot of sticks here. I want to ask you about a terrorist. What are the carrots the incentives that can be provided to the platforms to both encourage and manage free speech, and to make sure that the disinformation that is so polluted our culture is dealt with . We are in the latter part of the major antitrust investigation to focus on the large digital platforms, the antitrust subcommittee. Its been bipartisan. What were looking at is how is it that is large platforms that have enormous market power almost like monopolies are basically acting without any restrictions, any regulation . There are a number of ways you can prohibit anticompetitive behavior. I just introduce legislation that prohibits microtargeting in the context of political campaigns. If you do a political ad that is untrue, your opponent into a contrary ad to counter it. But with microtargeting software can send that adds to individuals without the other candidate i ever knowing because they can microtarget based on the data they collected. Thats what is so pernicious. There are number of ways we can really look at how do we protect First Amendment rights but not allow these platforms to be used to facilitate the widespread instantaneous dissemination of false information . We will have a whole series of recommendations at the end of this investigation but trust me, they dont need any carrots. Theyre making in numerous amounts of money. The most Profitable Companies in the world because they are collecting all the data and engage in behavioral advertising to kind of predict the behavior of individuals and give microtarget them. They are making enormous fortunes at a dont think we need a lot of carrots. I think we need to impose reasonable regulations to ensure theres real competition in the digital marketplace that will protect consumer. What would be the single biggest regulation that would make the single biggest change . I think you could say requiring them to be sure they have the consent of the user before they collect or share their data, prohibiting them from engaging at the competitive behavior that favors their own products and services would be a huge first step. Thank you very much. Let me move on to mp Damian Collinson United Kingdom and then will come back, congressman, to you and the larger conversation. Damian comes has been out front against the fight against dangers disinformation for quite some time, disinformation come across social media platforms. He found International Grand committee on disinformation which is helping to organize and a form this conversation today working with us at the George WashingtonUniversity Institute for data, democracy and politics. He put this committee together for the express purpose of doing what you were just talking about, congressman, which is cracking down on the spread. Damian collins, you also brought hearings to the George Washington university in washington, d. C. I was there, and one of the things that i heard in person that i know youve heard and that is very haunting in this conversation is in testimony to your committee, the members from twitter i i believe it was who were testifying said we do not want to be arbiters of the truth. Youve heard this conversation today. Truth actually matters because live lies can hang in the balance. Your perspective. Thank you very much. Its great to be with you again. I enjoyed the hearings we held [inaudible] i think its a very important topic which is issue of the spread of disinformation. [inaudible] theres always been peoples freedom of speech, and it is central to a democratic society. This also the relationship, things people say and harms they can do. [inaudible] people are willingly and maliciously spreading false information. Wish not see that as offensive. I think a part of this to be held responsible and accountable. The reason for that is [inaudible] i was very interested to see the wall street journal reported on it internal report in 2016. 64 of all extremist Groups Joined facebook. [inaudible] thats what i had concerns about section 230 in the american law. It affects us. Safe harbor, immunity on the platform. We need to make sure the power does not [inaudible] social media has become the way which many people get their news and information. They no longer rely on newspapers. What they see online mixed together, truth, i was content i dont think we sort of accepted. [inaudible] i think starting with a so important. I want to ask you, you just talk but independent oversight and talk but how covid19 may be a a separate and apart when the vaccine comes along, a huge challenge. But just to share with your international audience, what is your idea, european british id of independent oversight . What would that look like annuity defaults . We have independent oversight. [inaudible] [inaudible] we could see something similar. Congressman sicily any, this would be tough in the United States. Could you have independent oversight and still be compatible with the First Amendment . Its really important remember one thing, that this first mac argument of the platforms may come you will have to dissect it because when someone does a post that that is a declarant come when they sent a tweet, thats the First Amendment exercise, granted within the Companies Use of the reasons to decide how that will be distributed throughout their organization. Thats a business decision. The study First Amendment decision. They are taking content of another person and based on a business decision that you and algorithm that would promote it and ensure maximum engagement. That is not a First Amendment right that is protected. Thats a Business Model, a business decision. The notion they are protected by the First Amendment about the decide to use that post to enrich themselves by promoting division and engagement is a a fallacy. Theres not a First Amendment right. We need to separate those issues. We do have agencies that are responsible for protecting consumers, responsible for protecting competition. The ftc, the doj. But section 230 in current form and behavior of these platforms so far is been unchecked and so as a consequence thats why we launched this major editors investigation to develop a set of recommendations to really for the first time begin to take this on in a serious way. Many asas a member of parlia, Damian Collins, id like to respond to this because they are pieces in place already that attempt to the platforms somewhat accountable, and even those appear not to be working sufficiently well. There was a story that caught my eye from earlier this month, june 4, hundreds of posts spreading misinformation about covid19 are being left online despite the dangerous material being reported to the social media judge. This is in the uk. The story read as follows, the first paragraph or so. A group of young volunteers scour social media for coronavirus misinformation between april 20may 26. But after reporting 649 posts that experts believe contravened the platforms own standards, fewer than one in ten were acted upon. This is the will to act before, maybe saw this and your family with this, was published by the center for countering a digital hate. It put this action group together and found 90. 6 of the misinformation reported, reported, remained visible online afterwards without any warnings attached. Whats going on and what can be done . This is not even in compliance asheville were talking up bigtime legislation but are pieces in place that are supposed be observed as is. This is a good example. If the companies enforce their own platforms policies and if they responded to content problems with existing scale as a do but they dont. Thats whether so much bad content states stacey. What often happens is a citizen will report content, nothing s done. That citizen will be a journalist or some organization the companies respond. We need the companies to be proactive and find this content more effectively. In germany they goes to the hate speech law. Theres a strict timetable to take content down or they become legally liable. Its required for the companies to take action. We see this in other industries. Banking is a good example. After the financial crisis ten years ago there were conditions based on trade. One of them is a responsibility moneylaundering. Used to getting alerts from our bankers on a transaction on our account. Banking is a complex international system. Banks have responsibility to know whats going on. It doesnt exist and it should. Its going to require around the world so companies to respond they respond as we want them to. Congressman cicilline, anything to add to that . Same problem in this country, just different regulatory backdrop. Thats exactly right. The only thing i would add is unfortunately some of those posts that of the most outlandish, the most outrageous are the most profitable for the platforms. Their Business Model is based on occasion so sometimes the more outrageous, the more unsupported, the more likely just to get people in case the more profitable. Thats what the Business Model, we cannot rely on these platforms to regular themselves. They are driven by one thing, to grow and make money regardless and thats why it is the governments responsibility to respond. Dr. Maru and dr. Weiss i would love to draw you in here for a few minutes before we take a break and come back for second panel. Dr. Maru, let me start with you. You have been very vocal about this. Youve been on the receiving end of the disinformation. Using patient as you talked about. Anything you want to ask or present to these their influential members of congress and Uk Parliament . Just again to say thank you so much for your efforts, and service for my viewpoint as a parent and physician, what you are trying to achieve is absolutely essential, that it is baked into the Business Model, and as the spread of misinformation and as such we need to establish the right regulatory approaches to hold them accountable because it just will not be done. Otherwise, they ran a small study looking early on in the pandemic can look at 100 pieces of misinformation, and that have been clearly labeled as independent Fact Checkers to cause potential public harm, and are now show that they have been shared over 1. 7 million times, just the small tip of the iceberg, and over 40 of that misinformation remained online despite the efforts of facebooks very own Fact Checking program which was in response to public pressure. There is a systemic underling issue with the platform that theyre not able to directly address this truly deadly spread of misinformation. Let me put that to Damian Collins. This systemic underline inability to address. This is exactly right. The companies we make it our for people to find discount and social media. [inaudible] what people watch on paid for by the platform itself. Content is being pushed up all the time. So, therefore, thats why you require the companies to intervene because they are allowing people to exploit the system of social media, to target people with disinformation. You could target more likely leave the Conspiracy Theory about covid19 with that information through social media rather than have to wait for them to find it. Try to come here opportunity to influence United States congress, i hope. What questions, if there was one thing that this member of congress could take back to the floor and push through, would make your job easier, your patience safer . What would you ask him to do . I would ask that the fact checker regulations that are in place clearly be emphasized more. I think that individuals now, like you said, just get information that pops up on their feet. The just having more clarity around warning, about this may be information that is harmful to your health come just those warnings will allow individuals at least think about is this information am looking at, this video content come is a something i should take at face value . Congressman cicilline . I would say first of all, the last discussion you had about the inability of the platforms, its not an inability, its an unwillingness. I have the ability. They choose not to do because are making too much money in the existing Business Model. The final point i would make is we are going to release a final report and a set of recommendations for one thing i wanted understand is with tremendous economic power, its often accompanied by tremendous political power. These Large Technology platforms are going to invest an overly investing millions and the use of dollars to try to impede progress both in congress and around the world in legislative bodies generally manage this problem. Thats one of the reasons why to do with the campaigns because their economic power gives an enormous political power and will be in for the fight of our lives to get this done right and will need to record people to demand action in order to fortify the spines of legislators and members of parliament around the world to actually solve this problem. Congressman cicilline, last question to you from one of the journalists who joins us from politico. Let me just at the outset and to the extent possible weve tried to keep this conversation about covid19 while disinformation the context of Public Health and individual health. Theres a lot of politics wrapped up in his this is a political question. There are now less than five months before the november election. How satisfied are you social media platforms are prepared to handle the issues link to this Information Online hate speech connected with the upcoming vote . Im not satisfied at all. I think theres grave danger we will see a repeat of the spread of disinformation to undermine our democracy and to do for with the american president ial election. What can be done, anything . While i mean there are number things when working on in my subcommittee. Ill be so lawenforcement agencies are charged with that the frank when the president of the United States responds by dismissing foreign interference in our elections and think its a hoax and its no big deal and does not lead a National Effort with sort of all the levers of government whole of government approach to say that we will never ever allow a Foreign Government to interfere in american is intellection begin into social media platforms to facilitate that come were left to have the agencies, the lawenforcement agencies charged with that, keep up with homeland security, and just have to hope theyre doing their best. We suffered from not having president ial leadership lead an effort to protect the integrity of our elections. Damian collins, i will not ask you to comment on american politics and another snow policy United Kingdom but to give the opportunity to have a closing word here. You have been working on this problem for so long, the disinformation problem, the, the responsibility of the social media platforms. We heard very compelling stories and examples from our wonderful doctors here today. Your closing thoughts . I think the american election, i was very interested to see joe biden make this an issue in his Campaign Last week and say the need to change, stop the dissemination [inaudible] i dont think section 230 i dont uk bound by something in american law [inaudible] the conventions of law. We need to be acting at her own interest and her citizens interest to make sure theres a sponsor online and social Media Companies can no longer safe what happens on our platforms is really our responsibility. We have to make clear that isnt good enough anymore. I think the Global Pandemic were going to at the moment, importance of accurate information, i think that underlines why this is so important. Damian collins, thank you so much for joining us from your perch in the United Kingdom and bring your perspective here. Congressman cicilline, many, many thanks as well. Senator patty murray toy delivers, we faker. To our astonishing doctors, dr. Maru and dr. Weiss, for all that you do, thank you thank you sod for the life your city and the work youre doing. To keep us healthy, to get us even healthier a special up against this disinformation epidemic, pandemic. Many thanks to you as well. 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