Tossup. Welcome. Lawmakers program, you are watching the Atlanta Press club debate series. , this is the general Election Debate for candidates running for u. S. Senate to fill the seat currently held by david perdue. In order to ensure everyones safety, the candidates and panelists are participating from their homes. The Atlanta Press club get a special thank you to georgia public broadcasting for helping to organize the online debate. T meet the candidates. They are in alphabetical order, libertarian chain hazel, marine corps veteran and cohost and producer of the rebellion podcast which analyzes politics from a local to global level. Democrat john served as ceo of inside the eye. Media Production Company that investigates corruption, organized crime and war crimes for International News organizations. Republican david perdue has served in the u. S. Senate, since 2015 before been elected to the senate, he sat on the board of five major corporations and cofounder perdue partners, a Global Trading company. Now, lets meet our. Panel. A newss anchor with a radio gr group, baxter is a reporter with supporter report and emma is a reporter with w a d news. Ats get started. Candidates will have 50 seconds to answer questions and 30 seconds to respond to rebuttals. I will hold up a piece of paper letting candidates know when they have ten seconds remaining. For the full set of rules, please visit the Atlanta Press club website, Atlanta Press club. Org. To start the debate, each candidate will be asked two questions panel. Tom, you get the first question. Mr. Hazel from your Party Supports very strict limits on the size of government and minimum in peoples lives. Take this briefly through how a libertarian government would have reacted to the coronavirus and why the steps an idiot would take to limit the spread. We are strict constitutionalists and by strict, anti federalist. The ninth amendment which secures not enumerated in the constitution to the people and we believe the tenth amendment that reserves all powers, not delegated to the federal government specifically in the constitution to the state. One thing we dont do is call people unnecessary. Everybody in an economy is essential. Every one of us and like my opponent said, they have signal out nonessential people. We have an economy based on production and service. Sweat and tears on their own equity and risk for his killed more than a million jobs here in georgia. Its absolutely unconscious unconstitutional to begin with. We love the state and people to act their own interest. Allow people to go out there and exercise right to commerce, to trade, to travel, to the right of assembly and protest for and we dont lock people up and we dont point guns and people. Donna thank you very thank you very much. Very quickly just appointed admin we cant see you within 10 seconds. Okay then i will stay 10 seconds. Thanks for letting me know. Raul please ask the question to senator perdue. E. Senator perdue at one of begin with education. Ingiit the summer brian kemp and ridgewoods road to the Trump Administration asking federal requirements for standardized tf quote the ongoing challenges posed and resulting in a state Budget Reduction but last month u. S. Education secretary betsy devoss responded by saying quote you should not anticipate such waivers again. She is referring to it was waived last school year but not this school year. First david perdue do you agree with the secretary devoss and second is there a role for congress and the say of students in the School System having to deal with federal requirements especially when you have school districtsci like in my listing area Hancock County which is still all virtual . Raul thats a great question but first let me thank the Atlanta Press club in gpb and all the viewers for tonights event or its a very time in a very special event. My mom and dad were schoolteachers of dade believed the bus decisions are made by b the parents Teachers Principals and it should not be limited to the economic circumstances of your committee bid let me bracket where we are going to hear tonight. Firstin of all jon ossoff is desperate. He willl say anything to hide hs radical socialist agenda. He wants to defund the police open borders and sanctuary cities where where he once agree new deal. He wants to cut and Close Military bases in georgia and in for socialized medicine. He will say anything to hide his radical socialist agenda. 10 seconds. Its dangerous for communities and families in georgia. Thank you very much. I think i get a rebuttal here, do i not . Yes, you get a rebuttal and you can raise your hand and let me know that you wanted or do what you just did which was tell me. Go ahead. Senator we canan see you are reading from an outside your staff has prepared him the question was about the covid19 pandemic which has killed nearly 220,000 americans after you ensure it is the risk to our health was low and compared it to the common flu. Instead of pivoting like all of the washington polish it politicians do the personal partisan shots and whether you tellch us what you are doing lie helping schools . Emma please ask the question to jon ossoff. Mr. Ossoff if you win this election you could become the youngest u. S. Senator and you dont have any experience in Holding Political office. In this pandemic and economic crisis why should voters trust you in holding officer may one . Politicians like senator perdue a failed us in the choice isen clear for voters in this election. I run a business that investigates organized crime political corruption and war crimes all over the world. Wear have exposed bribery on multiple continents and senator david perdue cells meetings for corporate backed checks where he sells lavish where treats him a private island where he lived for corporate pack money. Thats the corruption destroying our political and my politicians dont serve images of ordinary people today serve the interests of our donors. Senator perdue admits of this pandemic is pushingiv a lawsuito allow Insurance Company to deny Health Coverage to people with preexisting conditions like asthmao and cancer and diabetes because he works for his daughters and not for we the people. 10 p seconds. I think i get to respond to that. Yes sir go ahead. Im glad jon ossoff brought this up at like and explain where his money comes from really in his business. One of his largest clients is aljazeera the mouthpiece for terrorism. Hes got money for two years from Chinese Communist government and tried to hide it by not disclosing it on the federal Action Commission report. Itsec pretty clear he certainly doesnt want people in georgia to know he continues ton be supported and 2017 and two weeks ago he supported the communist party of the u. S. Stay. Thank you very much. Senator of the Washington Post. That is patently false. Is out the rule we have . I believeth he accuses me of those kinds of things that a rebuttal is appropriate. We were told to get one rebuttal. You have 30 seconds to rebut criticism or you want to say mr. Ossoff . He just accused me of ridiculous things to avoid answering a question about health care. The Washington Post is called senators perdue attacks a righteously false and the Associated Press calls senatot perdues attacks flatly false. My business looks out war crime in every region of the world. Is it true youve gotten money from the Chinese Government for the last two years . Im sorry we will have to move on. Atat this point we are going too back to raul tassoba questionedo shane hazel please. Sorry about that. The question for mr. Hazel. You and i had a recentaz conversation about real broadband. The state of georgias Broadband Deployment Initiative has beenb. Trying to map problems with Internet Access across the state in my listing area 33 of my audience is considered underserved and getting even ask us to rural rock band. During our conversation he said state and local level should be looking at private contracts. Can youou go a little more into that because at the moment in my listing area you have the southern half access with only one provider. For example should broadband be considered aro utility . Sydney what are the solutions for rural broadband. Theba southern government has almost zero or zero power to do anything in terms of infrastructure. This is really looking at georgia andd this is not what we should be looking at right now. We have got in every nation we are in 120 nations around the world. We have a collapsing economy right now and 27 million in debt. We have no money. We are absolutely broke right now and we havent bureaucracy thatha is taking the middleman stuck in between the taxpayer and the utilities begin with. You can probably start with less surveillance on the roadways and put that in eyebrow pics getting it out to those areas if you want to solve it. Its absolutely a state and local issue. Thank you very much. Tom please ask the question to jon ossoff. Mr. Ossoff used it recently dont support packing the Supreme Court but i dont believe that you have said yet whether you would support the constitutional amendment introduced by senator perdue that would limit the court to no moree than nine justices. Is that amendment a good idea and why or why not . I think judicial reform is a prerogative of congress and what i dont support is adding a seat to the Supreme Court because we dont like the policy positions of the justices that have been confirmed that lets remember four years ago senator perdue was adamant. He gave impassioned floor speech is on the Florida Senate senate that no confirmation in the Supreme Court justice should proceed in it president ial Election Year and now hes grown those socalled principles aside in your swipe at the Supreme Court will order arguments on the affordable character and his protections forar georgians wit. Existing conditions days after his election and senator perdue works for the Insurance Agency and wants to rest her Supreme Court confirmation to repeal the Affordable Care act and let Insurance Companies deny coveragera to georgians with conditions like asthma, diabetes and heart disease. 10 seconds. I would like to respond please. Absolutely senator perdue. s sixth jon ossoff will hide anything to hide his social the situation in 2016 you mentioned is totally different than it is today. We have a Different Party in the white house than we did in the senate than we do today. We have both parties in the white house and the senate of the same party. Justice ginsburg said when that happens of course you should go and confirm. Thank you very much. Am i you get the final question in this round and that is to senator perdue. Senator perdue during the Trump Administration you closely aligned yourself to the president and according to a constitutional pulpit he presented georges people disapprove of the job the president is doing. You will need some of those voters to win this election and what is your message to them . First of all in six years ive traveled all over the state and listen to people and their troubles and how they are trying to deal with the federal government thats been blown down to size but even a pandemic we reached out to 1 million georgians and listened and tried toht help them get through this crisis. What i talk about is this, results. After eight years of the lost economic output in u. S. History we turn this around and have now going on. Covid the greatest economic turnaround in u. S. History. 7. 5 million jobs in the highest of employment ever measured the lowestn africanamerican and asian and hispanic unemployment. From the Great Society where they did not move the party at all in the last three and a a hf years. Covid 6. 5 Million People pull themselves out of poverty contrasting with the abide in obamabiden plan 800,000 people fell in the poverty and thats what they want to go back to more regulations more taxes. Thank you very much. Thank you sir. That concludes the first portion of the debate where the candidates will now ask a question to each of their opponents. Candidates will have 15 seconds asked the question, 60 seconds to respond and 30 seconds for a rebuttal. Shane hazel you have the first question to jon ossoff. You have come out in support of biden and Kamala Harris. Biden was the author of the 94 crime bill that put forth qualified immunity come increase the drug warp Police Militarization no knock raids and Kamala Harris the top copopn california has lost does lots more black men in cages than anybody in any other state in history. How is it that you can support these two and then also support blm . Thank you for the question mr. Hazel and i learned about Public Service at the feet of my mentor congressman john lewis who his entire life and his entire career fighting for civil rights and Voting Rights and thats why i will be a champion for criminal Justice Reform in the unitedus states senate. We have to recognize that racial profilingnd of brutality, these are not isolated incidents that senator perdue has said. This is the systemic problem in our criminal Justice System ands why we need a new Civil Rights Act and National Standards for the use of force. Why we need a new Voting Rights act to endnd racial profiling ad criminal justice. When a young black man Ahmaud Arbery was shot to death in the street in broad daylight in georgia and local Police Prosecutors look the other way that makes a mockery of the 14th amendment equal protection guaranteed in the u. S. Constitution and thats why we have civil rights laws. Senator perdue didnt even show up when he was invited to address the naacp about how we can reform the system. Thank you very much. David perdue its your turn to ask a question to shane hazel. 30 seconds for a bottle. Shane also got to rebut that for 30 seconds. Shane would you like to rebut that . I dont think mr. Ossoff answer the question. I think whatat we have is an expediency move. What we are doing is playing Party Politics instead of supporting joe biden and Kamala Harris. Theres a president ial nominee in the party thats fighting for the end to qualified immunity in the drug wars and Police Militarization and no knock raids. We are being honest and consistent with who we will are supporting. Thank you very much. Youve done a nice job tonight donna. You know jon ossoff this is what im talking about. This is all talk. I agree 100 that law wasne written by joe biden and it locked up more black men in this country than any law in the last 255 years where would we get the last two years is as criminal Justice Reform that freed africanamerican young men who were nonviolent drug offenders. They had 26 years the democrats had to do something about criminal Justice Reform and they did zero. Thank you very much. Senator perdue its your turn to ask a question to shane hazel. First of all shayan i want to thank you for your military service and i mean that from my heart. We just heard that jon ossoff attack the Paycheck Protection Program. If you would have been in the senate would you have protected the Paycheck Protection Program . No when as libertarians we dont believe in going outside of the constitutional boundaries. The constitutional boundaries are very strict and very specific in article i, section 8 lays out most of our power spread our powers are negotiations in commerce. We are an external looking part of our government without any real influence on the daytoday rise. What i would have done is made sure our governor, governor kemp, understood he does not have the right to block us from assembly and does not have the right to force coercion through police in shares to make sure we are dissembling. What we should have done is said to evaluate the risk on your own and go out there and do it you need to do to make your family essentially have food and clothing and leave everybody alone. Good ideas dont require force and that is how we have liberty in our rights here in america. Thank you for the question. Thank you very much. Jon ossoff. Hey donna i believe i get a rebuttable a rebuttal. Shane i agree 100 with the concept of limited government. I do think in a situation we are in an unprecedented pandemic that requires people to survive there pandemic. We m brought 47 million to the state of georgia to help our hospitals or schools and communitiesel and their Small Businesses. The Program Saved 1. 5 million jobs. Thank you very much. I like to rebut quickly if i might. Go ahead. Although your heart is in the right place senator the powers are very specific and we allow 1 we allow everyone to do this. What what we should have done is left people to theirys own liberties and really not shut down economy which has cost over 1 million jobs here. Thank you very much. Jon ossoff please ask your questionpl for senator perdue. Senator 220,000 parents grandparents friends and neighbors have been killed by a virus that you insisted was no more deadly than the ordinary flu when he told us the risk was low. You and donald trump downplayed the threat of this crisis. You believe that President Trump has done everything in his power to keep the people of georgia is safe and during this pandemic . Thank you for the question. Ive been totally focused on the needs of georgians since this crisis broke out and the quotes you are giving is totally misleading. You left off the part about where we also said the need to take thiss very seriously and we did that we created a loop relief package that brought 47 billion to the state including a ppe program that you oppose the save 1. 5 million jobs in georgia that he would have denied those people their jobs. Thats what im fighting for. Meantime all you would do would you rubberstamp for Chuck Schumer whos locking the country down and will not negotiate for a second phase of this thing. These are 147,000 Small Business in the state of florida to get help in the neare future all te rest that we have done makeover not. It seems to me youll say anything to hide your radical socialist agenda. Rebuttal, mr. Ossoff. Senator perdue look up from your notes and answer the question. You believe President Trump has his power tong in protect the people of georgia during this pandemic . I absolute do a not tell you this had the democrats been involved that have anarchy like we did in portland and chicago and california. You guys are trying to divide the country right now in a moment of a crisis. What we have right now is a way forward. We are doing everything we can to break the regulations that would bring a vaccine quicker. You guys have all theat regulations [inaudible] in the meantime we broken through that and they are goingg to deliver one much earlier. You see these treatment regimens coming up. That never would have happened. Thank you very much. Jon ossoff. Senator the president of the United States did in the white house reacting room and suggestednt t people inject chel disinfectants told us this disease was nod more deadly than the flu. You are changing the subject left, right and center. Do you seriously believe President Trumps done everything in his power to protect us or have youve been too busy fending off multiple federal investigations fordi Insider Trading to do your own job . Senator perdue. First of all you can talk itut that allnight but started been refuted and the other thing is so easy to be a monday morning quarterback. First of all you misquoted the president and what you said is just not true. This is what im saying, youll say anything to do where the people away from the truth about how radical your socialist agenda really is. Thank you very much. We need to move on. Now a it is time for shane haze. Please ask your question of senator perdue. Senator perdue the 160th congress did not fare too well in constitutional voting for your score in the 116 congress for constitutional is 25 . Lets differentiate you from john ossoff. First of all im a Free Enterprise and i believe in the Free Enterprise system and Economic Opportunity for everybody and individual liberty. What jon ossoff believes is obvious where but he wants us to be a socialist state. The extreme left of the Democratic Party has taken over control and if elected it would be a rubberstamp rubber stamp for that radical Left Movement within the Democratic Party but i believe this is the greatest country in the history of the world. I love america and democrats including jon ossoff talk negatively about. And the one hand they tell people i will support the police and he walks into another crowd and he says i believe in the funding of police. When he goes out to the states of course im goingpo to suppor. He also talks about never taking any corporate money fun tv talking about never takingng corporate money. Hesp has argued taken tens of thousands of dollars. Hein is radical and hes tryingo hide this radical socialistid agenda. Thank you. Mr. Ossoff. Debating senator perdue is like being on cable news and likeke being on twitter. Come out to the real world where people are suffering. This is and democrats versus republicans and liberals versus conservatives. This is the people against the state against crooks like you too busy ingratiating yourself an office to protect us from the most significant threat to our health and prosperity of threat you systematically downplayed and denied and failed to address it responsibly or effectively. I need to respond to that. You can say it all night long. The more s he says that the mory confirms exactly what ive been saying a zany thing to hide his radical socialist agenda. Senator perdue it is your turn to ask a question to john ossoff. I would be happy to donna, thank you. You support the funding to police where your billionaire buddies who are backing your campaign 75 of your money from outside the state wants you to defund the police. The federal fraternal order of police and 95 shares including 12 shares from realha party in r state have endorsed me and not you read why is that . Senator i dont support the funding to police and thats where we tend the newspapers reporter and your allegations that havee to call it false. You are lying about my record because you dont want to address your own. You have done nothing, nothing to address the demands of millionsot of people, multiraci, multigenerational coalition that is remanding criminal Justice Reform in the reform of policing in this country. I was out marching peacefully with the naacp after Ahmaud Arbery was killed in Bishop Jackson of the ame church said they had invited you to calm and address the people and describe how we could heal these wounds and rebuild trust between communities and Law Enforcement and not only did you not show up he didnt even respond to the invitation senators so instead of trying to politicize this in turn the need for reform of policing and reform of political justice into a political wedge why you put forward a proposal that will read old trust between communities and Law Enforcement . Senator perdue. We passed a law of jon. We actually did something about criminal Justice Reform something you could have done for 26 years, your party and he did not do a thing. Your billionaire buddies what you to defund the police. Youve been in rallies where the signs and everything around you are abolished the police. You want to beat them down where they cant raise their head in public. What im talking about here is the sheriff know you will not have their back. These fraternal order of the liesman know that you will not have their back and thats why they are endorsing me. We are going to move on. Jon ossoff it is your turn for the final question in this segment for shane hazel. Mr. Hazel grateful for your presence here in grateful for your presence innc the race and for your consistent principles. Senator perdue several years ago expressed that he thought the department of education should be a abolished and has expressive support for abolishing i dont know if he still holds the stopped the with the stopped the with your thoughts on those agencies and the roles of a play in our government and our society . Thank you jon. The first time ive heard you mention my name ever you or the senator in that case as an act of suppression. In terms of the department of education and the epa and the whole bunch of the other outfits constitutionally mirrored the merited or delegated to the federal government those powers belonged to the states. What we see now in terms of government education o or government doctrine has led us to the path where we are now. Nobody understands their rights. Nobody is a constitutional expert. Nobody is going out there and defending what the constitution is. Ou young probably had something lie aa 15 constitutional voting record and senator david perdue has a 25 record. Theres only one senator and all the United States that has an a average and that is rand paul. Im a heck of a lot more like rand paul. We do centralize these powers of the state and let people reach out and touch their local representatives that is how we get better results and get the government out right now we have more government than we have ever had in history. We dont need more of it. Thank you mr. Hazel. Jon ossoff youre a bottle. To that mr. Hazel appreciate a response and i appreciate the consistency of your principles so i disagree with you on policy. P t senator perdue in the past has expressed his support for abolition of the department of education which runsra the pell grant and supports abolition of the impairment of Protection Agency which protects our clean air and clean p water night dout he approaches those issues with the same consistency beyoud duchenne. I would like to respond. And my mom and dad were schoolteachers and they believe in i do too at the best decision is made between the parents the schoolteacher the administrator and the local community. It just seems to me you have to look at the results and part of educationn my mind is an unmitigated disaster since it was created in 1976 by jimmy are prepared to to that time our 14yearold led the world in math science and reading itce today we are way down the list. To hold them accountable just like bush to the post office and other departments out there. Mr. Ossoff. Senator perdue do support the department of education . Do you support abolishing the department of education . Senator perdue, go ahead. I am done. We are going to move on. We are going to move on. That will conclude our second round. For those just joining us this is the debate between candidates for u. S. Senate. We will now go on back to the panel to ask questions until we run out of time. I will determine whenever bottle is appropriate or the candidates may raise their hand at a feel they should get ara rebuttal. Rahul bali you get the first question is around. Senator perdue a want to go back to the first round and asked my question about education again. Should congress waive federal requirements for standardized to make their decisions . Personally with Everything Else we have done in terms ofth waiving certain requirements of Regulatory Oversight i personally would support that until we get out of this crisis schools are under great pressure. Some are virtual and some are in person and that puts a lot of pressure on teachers and schools and school administrators. Thats my answer to the question but i think its a reasonable thing to consider. I know im in disagreement with the secretary but this one makes sense to me as a child of two teachers. Thank you very much. Tom baxter is your turn. Senator perdue the constitutional amendment that we were talking about a minute ago with mr. Ossoff the one you cosponsor said the u. S. Supreme court should consist of no more than nine members. It says nothing about whether or for how long we might operate with less than nine members and you can effect the bounce of the court by reducing its size just as easily as you can by increasing it to should the amendment have some provision for filling open seats expeditiously to avoid situations like that after the death of Justice Scalia . I would support that but i think the primary notion here is that this is again n obstructio. You see the democrats in washington saying now Different Things than they said in 16 and i want to make sure this is very clear but the situation where we have the same party in the white house and the same part in the senate is different than we had in 2016. But you would agree the constitutional amendment should include some provision for not dragging out a confirmation . I think sony think what happens here though is historic legacy and i heard your question as it would require it not to be less than nine for some period of time so my point is that if youioim look at the historical legacy 19 times in our history you have the situation and only 17 of those instances they were confirmed. Even Justice Ginsburg said in a situationin like this you should have course go ahead and confirm that year. Thank you very much. Am i please ask the question. This question is for all the candidates in alphabetical order mr. Hazel mr. Ossoff and senatoo perdue put a question is on the georgia coast the levels have gone up by 10 inches in the last two years and will continue rising as the icecaps melt and the ocean gets warmer. Mr. Ossoff and senator perdue u. Both oppose the green adela mr. Hazel you are opposed to government funding of Renewable Energy and Greenhouse Gas regulations so what do you propose to do to address the Sea Level Rise and Climate Change . You leave it to the states and the conservationists. You leave it to the outdoorsmen and the women that understand their local environment and their habitat. They know more about those populations were fish and wildlife out there than anybody else. Those people can reach out and touch their city council, the Council Commissioners their sheriff and people likene that d coming up with better practices for those areas than then bureaucrats in d. C. Especially when we are talking about going into things like the paris accords where we are going to be strapped with more and more debt. We are going to have two live up to regulations while china and india and the rest of the world does not. First and foremost you can downsize the government. A the government is absolutely the largest polluter in the United States grayscale by the epa, scale back the dod and scale back a whole bunch of the alphabet soup andha now you have almost automatically. Thank you. Mr. Ossoff. Georges farmers and fishermen are already feeling the dove Climate Change as will her Coastal Community which will seize more storms surge events. We can unite this country at a moment when so many art of work and struggling economically behind a historic and the Structure Plan with unprecedented investments in clean energy to make george of the leading producer of her noble energy in the american southeast to invest in Public HealthClinics Research and Development Rural broadband transit and transportation. Wede can unite people but kind d infrastructure program. Senator perdue has been in the senate for six years as the Senate Majority and no major Structure Plan. As of the man who blacks a vision beyond interest of his donors. Senator you dont even accept the Scientific Consensus that Greenhouse Gas pollution affects Climate Change, do you . Rebuttal . Senator perdue. Thank you. Lets talk about infrastructure. Democrats for 20 years tried to the career politicians failed over 20 years and getting results for the people of georgia we did that. As the highest economic return of any investment to have available in the United States and we got it done. Will be completed by the end of next year. The next thing is i can tell you nobody understands better than farmers about how the take care of air land in the water. Its not big bureaucracy thats going to solve this. You can talk about infrastructure all you want to. Thank you very much. Senator perdue you made answer the question that am i asked about Climate Change. First of all thank you for the question. We t can all agree that climates changing and as i said i grew up on a farm working onin a farm ad my ancestors and my relatives all know because they want to hand it down to the next generation. What we have got to dode is different than what they be democrats are talking. No matter what jon ott says in one he he says i dont supported another he does what he wants to do away with all oil and Gas Production as soon as possible. Talkss about where old but he never talks about caseloads. They dont have that in terms of power generations. The Green New Deal would cost 9 trillion. Year. Its the greatest threat to medicare and Social Security that we have in america today. This is an outrageous spending plan that the democrats are trying to perpetrate in this election. Thank you very much. Rahul bali is returned to ask a question. I actually want to followup follow up on this conversation. Mr. Ossoff when you and i talked about year of the Structure Plan i askedi you how are you going o pay for it and you said the United States treasury been looking for for specifics. Its not going to be through raising taxes, raising fees like on o cell phones for broadband specific cuts to the federal budget are taking on more debt, more National Debt and im just looking for how youll pay for that. First of all we should be cutting taxes for working families and Small Businesses. We should be cutting taxes for working families and Small Businesses and as for how we financees an ambitious for infrastructure agenda look when it comes to the time to embark upon wars of choice based off on false pretenses when it comes time to shovel trillions of dollars investment banks on wall street to bail them out when senator perdue in Mitch Mcconnell want to spend trillions of dollars in giveaways for their political donor senator perdue never asked where wed find those resources. Its when it comes time to invest in our structure that senator perdue suddenly pleads of the country is bankrupt or member senator perdue went to the senate six years ago saying getting the federal debt under control was the top priority been before covid. 5 trillion of growth but it hasnt gone to investment in infrastructure but hasnt gone to investment in Small Businesses and working people huge amount of it has gone to giveaways of senator perdues donors to pay for a lavish private island. I would like to rebut that. First of all he still hasnt asked the question how is going to pay for it in for him to tell the people of georgia he believes in cutting taxes is a joke. No democrat has ever said that im im telling you right now joe biden is going to drive drive taxes up. Dont it listen to what he said last week. Jon ossoff will be a robber stamp for that policy but i believe in publicprivate partnerships. Back and build infrastructure but just like other president obama where he went forward with a 3 trilliondollar for structure package it gave us no return. They dont understand. For i jon ossoff to talk about jobs is a joke or he is not. One job. While we are on the subject investor infrastructure and Climate Change center just like you have an answer the question whether you still support abolishing the department of education and we know you arent going to answer the question because you are free to answer the question often answer the question whether you accept the Scientific Consensus that human Greenhouse Gas pollution is driving Climate Change. I need to rebut that please. While we are talking about Unanswered Questions did you ever come clean on aljazeera the Chinese Government . You still say you dont take corporate money than those at document a press article about that. When you Start Talking about economic matters and creating jobs its an irony that youd never created one american job. This is the swamp folks. He wont answer the question always deflecting deflecting all these pivoting could do you support abolishing the department of education and to accept the science on Climate Change . Jon we went to the people in georgia right now . Didns you take corporate money . We are going to have to move on. We are going to have to move on. You can answer very direct question. We have to move on. Tom baxter you have a questio. Since this is a question id like to ask all three candidates and this time lets start with mr. Ossoff and they go to senator perdue and then to mr. Hazel. Many of those who have warned that a Global Pandemic was coming now believe that this wont be the last one. What can this country due to ensure that our reaction to the next pandemic if it comes wont become politicized and uncoordinated and please try to answer without too much casting blame are taking credit for the current pandemic. Who is that for . That is for you. Mr. Ossoff. My wife felicia is an ob gyn doctor her in atlanta she and all the other heroic Health Care Workers have put their lives at risk. She has held the hands of mothers with covid19 while they have their babies yout cant be by loved ones. Health care workers have done their jobs where its politicians like senator perdue who have not been been Everybody Knows it answer to your question tom is to empower and address medical experts presented her perdue who voted to cut a billion dollars from the centers for Disease Control and prevention compared covid19 to the flu who enabled this president to the Pandemic Response to everybody from all parties none has beenom a disaster. Nearly a quarter million americans have died. We need government that is honest and competent and that empowers Public Health experts and the Public Health emergency. 10 seconds. Senator perdue. Thank you. It just seems to me again i dont chatter here. What we really did is we brought health to the people in georgia eoth in the hospitals and schools, communities and the workplace. While jon ossoff of posts ppes own father together pde loan savings 1. 5 million jobs in georgia but he wont answer honestly to the people of georgia why you oppose ppe. We have to develop a quicker way to develop vaccines and by the way we had to knock out a lot of the democratically originated regulations in order to begin to do that. Theres no way we are going to be able to the next virus if we dont get our financial house in order. 2. 9 trillion on the cares packaged. We may not have the ability to do that later. Rebuttal, jon ossoff . Senator im astounded. It is not idle chatter senator. Its 220,000dl americans killedy a virus. Excuse me senator. 220,000. I will wait for my time to be restored. Are you done senator . No, not by a long shot. 220,000 americans have been killed and listen to you schoolyard insults. Not a shred of empathy. Not a shred of personal responsibility that a virus you told us was low risk to her health and that a virus you compared to the ordinary flu that the administrations response was obviously totally incompetent which you praised has compounded the human tragic in the economic damage where you should be ashamed of yourself sir. Civic you should be ashamed of yourself john priddy took money from the Chinese Government that originated this virus in the first place. Gentleman we are going to have too give shane hazel a chance to answer this question. Send thank you very much. If you want principled consistency on the policy here in the United States and overseas you are not going to get it with these types of politicians. Both have spent 40 billion in terms of getting their voices out to you. Ladies and gents this is about you. This is about the American People. This is about your freedom and liberty. This is not about onesizefitsall government solution. Nethis is about empowering you d as a marine combat vets who went through Nuclear Biological Chemical training i can tell you seeing politicians making gross about what is going on in the political environment is absolutely gross and neglectful of the American People and their lives. The better decisions you can make without forcing corzine. We are going to move on and now am i heard your question. Senator perdue mr. Ross that does criticize you for not holding unscrupulous town halls while in office could understand you held a conference asking specifically about the open town hall format and why havent you held its . First of all thats not true. Thats a line that the democrats have perpetrated for six years because if they want to create something they can come in and disrupt. We have taken care the people of legitimate questions. Ive talked to people from all 159 counties and in a pandemic we reacheds out to over one minute people and help and try to reach out and help them through this. Jon talks about empathy but ive lost some very close friends. Its outrageous to say this is not personal to me. What we have got to do now is move forward. We have tot get ready for the next one and we have to get our economy back it who do you trust stmore to it the economy back someone is created tenss of thousands of jobs or someone who chatters about the democratic mantra . Thank you very much. We are going to go to raul. Your question. Said senator perdue are one to talk about Something Else we talked about in a recent conversation and that is the focus on mandatory federal expenses like Social Securityti and medicare but i wanted to oldies on Social Security but am looking for specifics. Would he raise the Social Security tax coming out of paychecks . Ci would you raise the age of so many gets full benefits . Again im looking for specifics on, you said this is going to be something you ought to focus on in a second term. What would you do specifically with Social Security . First of all i would are taxed beneficiaries but the greatest threat and i will get to that antonette i have not said anything about jon ossoff yet. I will tell you the greatest threat is all the democratic spending that they want to do that puts medicare and Social Security in great jeopardy. Right now believe you can solve Social Security by working on several Different Things but youve got to protect the beneficiaries and make sure nothing happens. Youve got to grow the economy keep career politicians from raiding the trust fund and the meantime what they want to do is basically more entitlement and so there is no more real solution. N the democratic spending between socialized medicine and the Green New Deal with definitely jeopardize Medicare Beneficiaries and Social Security beneficiaries. Where would your focus be in getting more money . Social security or curtailing the benefits im asking specifically wheres your focus going to be on that . Its a business guy you work on revenue and expenses in a situation like this. Career politicians have buried their heads since 1983 both democrats and republicans. Time to get serious about this and i believe in a second term of a President Trump i believe we can get to that but you have to have compromise. I believe you have to work on means testing and you have to work on the revenue side of this thing. And the beneficiaries to protect and save Social Security and medicare. Gentleman that is all the time we have for questions. Each candidate will now have 60 seconds for a closing statemente senator perdue u. Get the First Closing statement. Thank you doma. I think the viewers can see tonight what i was saying is exactly right. Jon ossoff is desperate and kills anything to hide hisis radical socialist agenda once the Green New Deal and he wants to defund the police but he wants to Close Military bases in georgia and he wants to force socialized medicine on a spree to mike redmond had to create thousands of jobs and i took that to washington to make a difference in good results for george. Wewe created the greatest econoc turnaround after eight years of total disaster under barack obama and joe biden. We are building our military back. We are confirming judges that will apply the law and not make love. We are achieving energy independence. Right now the choice is very clear. It just seems to me that if we stand together we can solve and beat this. We can absolutely get our economy back and we can assure the American Dream is a reality for every child in america going forward. God bless you and thank you. Jon ossoff it is your turn. Thank you donna and thank you to our hosts. My mother came to this country ason an immigrant when she was 3 years old because she believed in america. That doesnt mean she had some fantasy about her history or she did not how much further we had to go but h she believed and admired eat poor roadless a purpose, many out of one. She became a citizen because she knew that our democracy is how wewe move this country forward. Whats happened in these last four years has broken my mothers heart. Like its breakin so many hearts. We are more divided than anytime in wreck in history and we have a president with who is obvious and not up to the job and works everyday to divide us further. A quarter of a million americans will soon have died from a virus that our own government lied to us and pull those posts of low risk to our health. A health care is on the line. This is a matter of life and death in his time to make a change in this country. Thank you. Shane hazel you you get to find a closing statement. Smith thank you and thank everybody for having me and for being involved in this process. If youre tiredr of what you ae saying here between politicians you have got a choice. With Georgia Voting laws with 50 plus you get a doover there is a runoff. Michael is to bring people together regardless of age faith gender lover, and every nuance that makes us unique. If we come together remove the government corporate involvement fromhe our lives of people heren the u. S. And around the world but i believe in peace through liberty that i believe its time in the wars including the drug wars i believe its time to restore sound money in and the Federal Reserve and i believe it tied to the inland empire which is a bureaucratic nightmare between our daily lives from the time we get out of our federally approved to the time we get back back into it at the end of the day. I am shane hazel i hope to earn your vote. Thanknk you. That concludes our debate and wed like to remind voters that election day is tuesday November November 3. Dont forget to turn in your absentee ballot if your quest to one and early voting in person began today and will last through october 30. Thanks to the candidates and thanks to the members of our panel for participating. Rahul bali, emma hurd and tom baxter. I would also like to thank the Atlanta Press club in georgia public broadcasting for arranging todays debate. 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