National captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2017] good afternoon, ladies good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Im the president and ceo of the Vietnam VeteransMemorial Fund and ill be your master of ceremonies today. The annual veterans day ceremony at the wall. I would like to recognize all of the gold star family members we have with us here today. The mothers, fathers, wives, sibli siblings, spouses, nieces, nephews and the sons and daughters in touch. Is all those that have experienced the loss of a loved one and know all too well the sacrifices that our military families make. And finally to those still waiting for the return of their loved ones listed as missing, thank you for joining us. [ applause ] id also like to take a moment to thank it wall volunteers. Theyre the folks you see in the Yellow Jackets and the yellow hats. And the staff of the Vietnam VeteransMemorial Fund for all they do year round to honor veterans and preserve the memorial. They truly put everything they have into making experience for every single visitor at the wall as meaningful as it can be. And my last thank you today goes to our 35th Anniversary Commemoration sponsors, pbs, william murty,edy and ed ross, mr. And mrs. Fredric w. Smith, land of the free foundation, the slater foundation, u. S. A. A and wells fargo. Thank you for helping us make todays ceremony and everything weve done to mark the 35th anniversary of the wall possible. [ applause ] before we begin our program today, well pause to recognize our pows and mias. I call your attention to our pow mia chair which occupies a place of digginity and honor on our stage. Let us always remember and never forget their sacrifices. And now id like to start our program today with an invitation. Please welcome our chaplain who will lead us in the invoication. If youd please join me in prayer, heavenly father as we celebrate the 35th anniversary of this wall, let us always remember those that have served and those that are here today and those not here today. We commemorate those names on the wall and lord, we pray for those that are here today that still carry the scars from service in vietnam. We ask this in your precious and mighty name, amen. And now i would like to introduce the joint Armed Forces Color Guard from the military district of washington for our presentation of colors. Color guard, please present the colors. If you would stand, please. To zynga and National Anthem to sing the National Anthem, please welcome of the president s own United States marine band. O say, can you see by the dawns early light what so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming . Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight oer the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming . And the rockets red glare the bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that our flag was still there oh, say, does that starspangled banner yet wave oer the land of the free and the home of the brave . [ applause ] please remain standing while Army Lieutenant charles leads us in the pledge of allegiance and remain standing as the color guard retires colors. Thank you. Im the judge advocate general of the arm squea on behalf of our acting secretary and our chief of staff of the army and if i may add, my father and father in law who are both Vietnam Veterans, i thnk you for being here and the privilege of leading you in the pledge of allegiance. If you place your hand over your heart and join me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god in devisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, sir. Please be seated. The Vietnam VeteransMemorial Fund hosts the ceremony each year. Id like the welcome the secretary of the intearier. A former navy s. E. A. L. As a veteran he certainly understands the importance of remembering the sacrifices of those who serve through military service and were extremely pleased to have him join us for a few days ago to read names listed on the wall. Welcome, secretary zincy. [ applause ] well, happy veterans day. And all of us have a different experience about vietnam. My experience was growing up in a little town called white fish, montana and every veteran was day a parade would go by. My grandfather owned a chevrolet dealership and used to come to the curb and bring me a flag. And i remember the veterans marching by and the time the veterans would march by, the year and the war they fought. I remember the dough boys. They had their weapons shoaledered. And they marched brilliantly. Followed by the world war ii veterans. At the time there was a lot of world war ii veterans. You recall the world war ii veterans growing up . In my lifetime were always the Civic Leaders in charge of the lions club and they were the icons and the pillars of our community. And then the korean war. My step father was a marine. He fought in the korean war and they marched. And then i remember as a child looking at the Vietnam Veterans. Up fruont you always marched a little different. A war was a different war. The monument behind us is a different monument than all the other monuments in this great mall. If you can compare it monument to the world war ii monument compared to the monument behind us, it lies low on the horizon. When i was a congressman on the 50th anniversary of the war one of my greatest honors is to give pins to the veterans that served in the vietnam war and it experience of the vietnam war was different than mine. The war in vietnam came to me. I remember watching it with Walter Chronkite every nite. I remember my parents with me watching the war. With you came home, it was a different experience than what i experienced. A number of veterans that served that war always talk about coming if into either San Francisco, taking off the uniforms, throwing them in trash cans. Thats a different experience than how i experienced. When i came home with adilation, support your troops. And a lot of the reason why i received what i did in my generation is because you did not. I think as a nation we should be ashamed at how we viewed your service, your dedication. The monument behind me i think is not a tribute to victory or defeat. Its a tribute to remembrance. Weicide never run away from the history of our country. We should learn. When i served in the s. E. A. L. Team for 23 years, in 1985 most of my instructors were s. E. A. L. S. That had served in vietnam. They cut their teeth in the jungles and the rivers. I learned a lot from those fine warriors. Ive learned a lot from you. Those that have fought. Ive learned commitment, dedication, sacrifice. And i thank you. Ill tell a quick story why i say semp riify to every marine i see. As i fought with general mattis in fallujah, i can tell you i sleep better at night knowing general mattis has the military. And i tell you you know god loves us because general kellys in the white house. But when i was in fallujah i was on the front lines and i was the Deputy Commander of special forces in iraq and we were looking at what was going on in fallujah and general conway, later became the comdaunt of the marine corps and general mattis who was a First Marine Division commander, i was showing them on the front lines where we were going, where the safe hews were, where the snipers were. Kind of laying out our ord of battle and this young sergeant next to me and bear in mind im the commander, this young sergeant grabs me by my collar and nearly throws me down. Im a little red in the face. I go right up to him and he goes sir, theyre shooting at you. And for you marines, semp ri fi, thank you. But lastly i want to express how grateful i am had to be your secretary and how grateful our nation is for you magnificent Vietnam Veterans and for those family members today share in the understanding that we are a better nation for your service. With that, god bless you. [ applause ] thank you, secretary zincy and now please welcome Dianne Carlson evans, a vietnam veteran, nurse and founder of the memorial foundation. Thank you. We are grateful to be here for the 35th anniversary because it means were survivors, were here. Were together and exactly one year from today well celebrate it 25th anniversary of the Veterans Memorial which stands behind you and designed by glendau good acre. One of the women this pormemorial honors is here to share her story. The Army Nurse Core in 1957 from seal beach, california at the ripe old age of 21. She served as an operating room nurse and emergency room nurse at the ripe old age of 21. At the second Surgical Hospital and then theth 312th evacuationn 1968 and 69. Kate came home like most of us, just wanting to get on with her life. Have a family and continue with her nursing career. There were bumps in the road. However, her commitment to her fellow veterans has always been there. Kates career in nursing has spanned 30 years. Upon returning home, completed her bs in nutrition at uc berkeley. She has held the National Womens veterans chair for the past five years. Worked with legislatures and Community Members fighting for veterans rights and benefits. Kate never gave up in her fight to care for veterans. She continues to sit on the sfva Medical CenterWomens Health committee and works with various education committees at the high school and College Levels to enhance the knowledge of Women Veterans. Please give kate ohare a warm welcome. [ applause ] thank you, dianne for that wonderful introduction. Its amazing to me ive been coming for years sitting out there with you all. And now im up here to tell my story. And i wanted to say that this is a special anniversary, the 35th. I was here for the 25th, the parade. This is amazing. Last month i opened up a Fortune Cookie and it said you will be traveling and coming into a fortune. Well, i travelled from california to here and heres my fortune, my brothers and sisters. Welcome home. [ applause ] i want to share just a short bit about my time as an army nurse in vietnam, my transition home and the current needs of Women Veterans who have served in the military. My military service truly began in my home because both my parents were in the Army Air Core during world war roii and mother scrambled eggs in the morning and teaching us morris code. Dit, dit, dit. I could have used that sos a few times in vietnam. My older brother, tom, was an incountry veteran in 1965 and 66. I saw his pictures come home. He was in a hospital there and i wanted to help. I was a nursing student. It was that simple. Upon graduation, i raised my right hand with three of my friends and we took the oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all ininenemies. I believe this. I am a constitutionalest. The war was permeating all our lives and i didnt know how much then my heart, my mind and my soul would be tested. I went to vietnam in june of 1968, the day after Robert Kennedy was assassinated. Within two hours of hitting, i was in the hospital operating room scrubbed in. After three weeks i began to wonder how i was going to make it. Working between it emergency and operating rooms i saw injuries and carnage that no one could be prepared for. Even though i bed l. A. County general hospital. I was grateful for the training i received in the army before i went over, and it helped me with my first tracheostomy to save a life. The team work of all the medics, nurses and doctors that i was able to work with was hard to beat and will be forever remembered. We were a team. We supported the first cav in americal and marine icorps in 68. Some of us were either dating, engaged or married to men who were also serving in the military. So not only were we caring for those in our hospital, we were worrying would we see our guy come in on a litter . The 312 Evacuation Hospital reserve unit came up to chulai and second surge was sent down to 3 corps to laicai and we changed our mission to support big red one. I know theres a lot of you here. In the spring of 69, the Long Range Reconnaissance patrol brought to our hospital american soldiers who had been held as p. O. W. S in cambodia. They were severely mutilated, some of their genitals cut off and they were barely alive. One of them asked me to let him die. He didnt want to go home like that. I just hugged him. My duties were never ending. My hands continued to work but my compassion was being drained. My soul was tearing and no one that wants no one that is in a war ever wants war to continue. The robot kate took over those last few months in country. It was too much. Coming home to Travis Air Force base and bussed in to oakland depot, we had protesters throw rotten vegetables on us. We were not prepared for that. I was buffered somewhat in the early 70s by being at ft. Stewart, georgia, with my husband, and i worked at a local hospital while the south vietnamese soldiers were being trained to fly helicopters, back in vietnam, they were getting ready to go over. However, the war followed me home. An unexpected thing happened to me. I started having dreams, bad dreams, blood dreams. Covered in blood because i was an operating room nurse. They started intruding into my daytime life and i called them my day mares. After being in vietnam and being so strong, i felt so weak and scared and i didnt know what to do. It broke up my marriage because i didnt want to tell my husband after being so strong that i was so scared and weak. So those memories were relegated to a subconscious and i returned to San Francisco and finished college. One night while i was working at the v. A. San francisco a patient came out of his room and up to me and he said, you were my mask angel. I recognize your blue eyes and your voice and i will never forget when you said to me, you are safe now. You will go home. It was stunning to me to meet somebody that was alive. We cry for all these names. We cry for all of these men and women that died. But to meet somebody that made it back was the beginning of our healing. The dedication in 1993 of the womens memorial was an ecstatic day for us. We women were back together and acknowledged. The effort, energy and support to get this project completed were herculean and on that veterans day dedication we were greeted by our brothers. Many had their military records and were looking for their nurses, clerks, women they worked with in intelligence or aircraft maintenance. They were looking for the American Red Cross workers who had flown into their lz. These thank yous and hugs that we got and continue to get every time we come here are so warm and so amazing to us. Dianes message and circle of healing was truly begun. The spiritual component of our healing was weaving through us and it was only the beginning of a long road home for many of us. Im grateful to the vets center because they really helped me. They gave us back our pride and honor in our service when we were feeling less than whole. During our vietnam war era 2 of the military were women because there was a cap on how many women could serve. Now theres almost 15 women that serve. Over 250,000 served during the vietnam war era, but much more than that now. What i wanted to mention because theres still many areas that need advancement. And we continue to help with that. Women experience toxic exposure related to cancers and ptsd like our fellow soldiers. The Vietnam Veterans of america and other major veteran Service Organizations have worked tirelessly to help get that toxic exposure and research act passed last year. But thats only the beginning. You need to keep on everyone so that we get the benefits and the care that we deserve after toxic exposure. Its for our children and our grandchildren now. Timely care is needed at the v. A. Health care. Obstetrics and gynecological care should be standard in all v. A. Hospitals. Its a goal but hasnt been met yet and infertility in both women and men that serve in country or serve in other areas today that have toxic exposure is something that we need more work on. V. A. Benefits meet inclusion of comparable claims for Women Veterans, and ajudication. Suicide and homeless rates for Women Veterans are really on the rise and we need to look at that and help. Military sexual trauma care is a sore point. In 2014, we had a bill passed that was supposed to help take care of that. Its not enough. And we need to say no more ever again. The forever gi bill that just passed will be greatly used by our veterans that have been delayed entry back to school for either family, Mental Health or medical reasons. The majority of us veterans, all of us, we have gone home, served in our communities, been in places of leadership and we have continued to work with ourselves and others. We need to stand and work and live together always because we are special. We are. Thank you. Im proud to be a veteran and welcome home. [ applause ] thank you, kate. It is now my pleasure to introduce maya thank you, kate. It is now my pleasure to introduce maya lin. Maya was a student at yale when she won the Design Competition for the memorial that thrust her into the national spotlight. Over the last 35 years she has gone on to have a very successful career as a designer and artist. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome maya lin. [ applause ] thank you. Im so deeply honored to be here today, veterans day. The day our country sets aside to honor our nations veterans. The design of the Vietnam Veterans memorial was always meant to do just that. Remember and honor the veterans who served in the vietnam war. And remember those who did not come back. Its hard to believe its been 35 years since its dedication. Almost 37 years ago i stood here for the first time looking at this beautiful park. I had no idea what was to come over the next two years. I stood here and had a simple impulse to cut open the earth and to polish the earths open sides. Now to realize this design was not an easy journey. It was full of controversy and emotions on all sides. In 1982 at the walls dedication, i was here and at that time i was met by a very angry, very emotional vietnam veteran right here on the eve of the dedication. And as he raged at me, i could not help but to think how the pain and memories that that veteran was experiencing that made him lash out at me signified that the memorial was beginning to work. By creating a space that would allow a returning veteran to remember that time and although those memories at times would be emotionally charged and at times painful, it is only when we can honestly face that loss and that pain that we can begin to overcome it. And that cathartic healing process that has become so much a part of the space was always at the heart of this design. I have been fortunate through the years to have received so many heart felt thanks and letters from veterans, from family members who have lost a loved one, from a psychiatrist who helped veterans with ptsd and who wrote of how the final step to victory was to bring veterans to the wall. By its i who need to thank you for your service and sacrifice. It has been a deeply moving experience for me. At the time i must confess it wasnt the easiest of projects. I too was the average age of Vietnam Service member. I was 21 going on 22. And though my battle and what we all went through to build this is nothing compared to what you endured, maybe it too was part of the story of the vietnam war and its aftermath. I want to acknowledge and give thanks to those who were instrumental in realizing this design. The small group of Vietnam Veterans who work so hard to set up the idea to get congressional authorization, to hold the competition and then to weather an incredible political firestorm to get it built. To jan scruggs the founder of the vvmf whose idea it was to build a memorial. Who was then aided [ applause ] by a small group of dedicated Vietnam Veterans. Robert dubeck, ron gibbs, jack wheeler, colonel don shape, john woods. Some of whom are here today. And sadly, for those who are not still with us. They fought so hard to help realize this design. And to cooper lechy, the architects of record and to henry arnold, the landscape arc check who had originally designed this beautiful park in constitution gardens. To Jay Carter Brown of the Fine Arts Commission and so many commissioners who shepherded the project through the numerous planning meetings in d. C. And to so many senators and congressmen, generals, veterans, gold star families and volunteers who all made this memorial reality. So that it can stand today and have the effect that it does on millions of visitors each year. It wasnt the easiest of designs to understand before it was built. Since it connects to you in a very personal and psychological way. My task as the artist was to keep that design simple and pure. From the politics, from the controversy, from serious alterations and for all the myriad design details that help make this design what it is today. I envision cutting open the earth and polishing the earths open sides. The walls would not be massive, but instead, thin and light so that the names alone become the object. That the walls would be published to a mirror shine. So you see yourself reflected in the names. And that the depth would be enough to offer you refuge, but not enough to become oppressive. That it had always had to be of human scale and that as you descend the names rise up to meet you. And of utmost importance that you would be able to find your time on the wall. And connect with your fallen colleagues. I was intently focused on creating a work that would talk to each one of you individually. Yet also to have you seen together as a whole, as a family. And to see yourself reflected in both the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial so that you and your service would become a part of the very fabric of our country. So that youve become an honored and storied part of our nations history. I cannot imagine what you endured overseas. Only to come home and not be welcomed home by the country that asked you to serve. I believe so strongly that the politics of that war had been so divisive that this memorial had to rise above that. That this memorial could not let the politics of the war color your service, your sacrifice and your loss. We must never forget ever the heroism and sacrifice that you and your fellow veterans have made for our country. And if this memorial has helped to welcome you home, and to help heal some of the turmoil and pain of that war and to embrace you and honor you in our nations capitol, then i am deeply honored to have played my part in your story. Thank you. [ applause ] well, i know every single one of us would like to come up to maya at the end of the ceremony and offer their personal thanks, but she has to leave quickly and take a flight to london. But i think we all can use the loudness of our applause to let her know exactly how much her design, this memorial means to all of us. [ applause ] and it is now my distinct honor to introduce our keynote speaker for today. Vietnam veteran enlisted in the army, senator from nebraska, and of course chairman of our 35th anniversary committee, 24th secretary of defense, chuck hagel. [ applause ] jim, thank you. Secretary zinke, to all of our distinguished leaders that i have the privilege of sharing the podium with, thank you to our Vietnam Veterans, their families. To all of our veterans, all here, thank you. Thank you for your service. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing a special day. For not just vietnam war veterans but all of our veterans and the active duty military men and women and to you maya, again. Your presence, your words reflect as well as anyone can what this memorial means. What it has meant and it will continue to mean to future generations. So maya, thank you once again. I want to add my personal thanks to the group of individuals that maya mentioned starting with jan scruggs. His founding board, some are here today. So many people that were part of working through the difficulty of getting this memorial built at a difficult time. Maya, you mentioned some members of congress and there are two specific individuals that i have had the pleasure of not just serving with, but getting to know over the years. But two United States senators without who support whose support i dont think this memorial would have been built. Senator john warner from virginia and the late. Matt built to honor, rememb, and recognize the sacrifices of over 58,000 americans. Virginia and matt mathias. These two individuals really made it happen. 35 years ago today, this memorial was dedicated. War in t it was built to honor, remember and recognize the sacrifices of over 58,000 americans and all the men and women who served in a confusing and unpopular war in a very distant land. This memorial was built for future generations. So they would learn from this war. And would always remember that wars have serious and lasting consequences. I said in my remarks at the Ground Breaking for this memorial 35 years ago there is no glory in war. Only suffering. But with all the suffering Vietnam Veterans endured and saw, they also witnessed uncommon courage and compassion. There was heroism all around. But mostly, it was that they did the job their country asked them to do. Their commitment to each other and their individual decency and their belief in country sustained them. Nearly 3 million american men and women served in vietnam and they returned home not asking for special recognition. They didnt wallow in the selfpity or the lack of respect or thanks that they did not receive. They rebuilt their lives understanding better than most, that the price they paid included a large measure of injustice. Not all succeeded. Many struggled. And still struggle from that experience in that far away land. As i wrote these remarks this week, i looked at photos of my brother tom who served with me. Side by side in vietnam who is here today. My brother tom and my father in the South Pacific during world war ii. As i looked at those pictures, i wondered what a 21yearold charlie hagel and his buddies were thinking in 1944. Wars are fought by human beings, machines dont fight wars. People fight wars. Men and women fight wars. Those who survive wars are either embittered or inspired to help make a better world. Like all veterans of americas wars Vietnam Veterans chose the latter course. War gives one clarity. It helps you see what is really important in life. All Vietnam Veterans should be proud of that hard earned clarity and their service. We should be proud of each other. Each generation faces its own unique challenges. Unique to their time and history. These challenges are not of the soldiers making. Different times, different wars, different political currents, all dictate wars and reasons for fighting wars. Every generation of americans answered their countrys call. And todays veterans of iraq and afghanistan and our Current Service members are no different. Vietnam veterans answered their call and served with honor. Historians have written that the common equation for mankind throughout history, that is determined the strength and success of societies. Its challenge, response. Challenge, response. How each generation responds to the challenges of its time. Those societies that responded well learned, adapted and adjusted, always prospered and helped make a better world for all people. Vietnam veterans responded well to their generations challenges. Strengthening the foundations of a special country with special people. Their recognition came far too late. But look around you now. It is here today. I have always believed that the greatest responsibility of leaders is to leave their institutions and those they lead better than they found them. To serve as role models. I have often heard from the servicemen and women today and afghan and iraq war veterans, that they looked to the Vietnam Veterans for courage and inspiration. Vietnam veterans did serve as role models and are now the senior statesmen of the veterans community. Just as the world war ii and korean war veterans before them. Last week i attended a Ground Breaking for the eisenhower memorial to be built near the capitol. Reminding me that it was the Vietnam Veterans memorial. This memorial that led the way for the next two american War Memorials to be built on these sacred grounds of lincoln. As i listened to the eisenhower memorial speakers reflect on the greatness of this soldier statesman, a theme emerged clearly. That captured ikes life. Humility, dignity, and quiet leadership. Hallmarks of veterans of every war. Vietnam veterans were no different. To our Vietnam Veterans, celebrate your day of recognition. You have earned it. You deserve it. And thank each other. For you are the quiet heroes of your generation. God bless you all. Thank you. [ applause ] secretary hagel, sir, you are a true public servant. And im honored to call you friend. Thanks. Allow me to direct your attention to the representatives of several of the nations leading veteran Service Organizations. Many of them are leaving the stage. For many years these Service Organizations have joined our tradition of laying wreaths at the Vietnam Veterans memorial and in honor of the fallen. While they get in position i want to share a few highlights of whats been a busy year for the Vietnam VeteransMemorial Fund. Recently, the effort to put a face to every name on the wall passed a major milestone. Of the 58,318 photos we have been seeking, less than 4,500 photos are left to meet our goal. I would ask you please if you have photos of anyone on the wall, please make sure they are part of our wall of faces. You can find it through our website, vvmf. Org. We also inducted 412 Vietnam Veterans into the in memory honor roll which honors the men and women who served in the vietnam war and later died as a result of their service. As we do each year we inducted them into the honor roll the saturday of fathers day weekend. We do it on the knoll right over here overlooking the wall. In march, we commemorated the Ground Breaking for construction of the wall 35 years ago. And we were lucky enough to have remembrances from the retired Vietnam VeteransMemorial Fund president and founder, jan scruggs and the First Executive director of the fund, robert duebeck who is with us here today. For memorial day, jan was our master of ceremonies and our speakers were ken burns and lynn novak, codirectors of the recently released documentary the vietnam war. We release Public Service announcements starring gary sinese, ken burns and lynn novak, and the incomparable ann market. [ applause ] thanks to all of them for supporting our efforts. And we are ending our Anniversary Commemoration this week with the reading of the names. Honoring maya lin, and hearing from the only enlisted vietnam veteran ever to serve as secretary of defense, chuck hagel. Through owl of all of these activities and with all of our speakers and the activities we maintained the commitment the wall was built on never forget. I will now read the names of the organizations as they lay their wreaths today. I would ask you to please stand if youre able. While the wreaths are being laid, you will hear the bagpiper chris jackson, playing Amazing Grace for the 19th year. Todays ceremony will close with the playing of taps by Master Sergeant daniel orbin jr. Of the president s own United States marine band. The organizations laying wreaths, National Park service. Vietnam Veterans Memorial fund. Vietnam womens memorial. American gold star mothers. Operation freedom bird. Paralyzed veterans of america. Gold star wives of america. The 101st airborne division. First Calvary Division association. Sons and daughters in touch. Fifth battalion, seventh cavalry association. 25th infantry division. Military order of the purple heart. Verizon veterans advisory board. National dusters, quads and search lights association. Vietnam veterans of america. 8 00 to 9 00 ptsd class, washington. Association of Vietnam Veterans of america. Vietnam memorial volunteers and friends. Jewish war veterans of the usa. Tan sanot association. Caisson veterans. The american legion. Veterans of foreign wars. Rolling thunder chapter one of maryland. 39th engineer battalion alumni association. Am vets. Third battalion, eighth infantry. 82nd airborne association. And the first marine aircraft wing. We ask that audience members remain standing and at attenti we ask that audience members remain standing and at attention until taps has been played and the honor guard has been dismissed. Honor guard, you are dismissed. This concludes our ceremony. Thank you for coming, ladies and gentlemen. Ive been attacked by everybody. 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On each visit we will speak with state officials during our live washington journal program. Follow the tour and join us at 9 30 a. M. Eastern for our stop in raleigh, North Carolina, our guest is North Carolina general, joshstein. Our vietnam war coverage continues. Next, a conversation with historians, Mark Lawrence and