one terrorist. so i was -- i cared about my people. and why? because i -- i discovered that our problem is not with the terrorists. our problem is not with the suicide bomber. our problem was with their ideology, and they're absolutely victims of their ideology. >> is this for you a conflict between islam, the religion of your birth, and christianity, what you converted to you? you keep talking about our god, their god. >> exactly. this is absolutely right. it's ideological conflict. it's ideological war. in other words, it's a war between two gods. the god of koran and the god of the torah, or the god of the bible. so people are victims of this war. >> we have some pictures of you with your father, sheikh hassan, and we're going to show you right now, you walking with your father. that appears to be your father. >> yes. >> and you were there with the glasses next to him in the leather jacket?