things that bannon is -- is saying is that the media in liberal america is so blind to what these guys are up to they miss what's going on, they miss all the tricks. >> do you see what i have highlighted, it's exactly what you said. you said they liberals and media don't understand what he's saying or why or to whom. i'm not sure. i don't know about liberals, but maybe the media, some of them do understand but some may take offense to it. i think they understand. >> i think you've gotten to the heart of the issue, that taking offense, and it's taking offense at -- we're on a -- we're -- it's sort of curved down the -- carved down the middle, the divide. you don't think they're saying