>> yeah, no, i think president obama, if he didn't quite in this interview, needs to be more full-throated about owning some responsibility for not having those coattails other than in 2008. as angela said a few minutes ago, the fact that he created a separate organizing for america i do think hurt democrats in 2010, 2014, 2016. certainly. at the same time, i think because, in my view, president obama would win again were he to run, i think that a lesson that democrats have to take you need better, chrismatic candidates who can communicate a straightforward message to other people. donald trump didn't win because of a specific policy. one, he knew how to reach people out there. >> kayleigh, final thought, there is a danger on both sides of overlearning the lessons, isn't there, a very close election. are you concerned the republicans might say we got to figured out, right, and perhaps overplay a mandate? >> no, i'm not concerned about that. you know, i think there are