that we do need to make some fix with obamacare. >> we said that from the beginning. >> i think that rick santorum was right, you had him on earlier, i think the plan that meadows and johnson have been working on to deal with -- helping to stabilize the insurance market, which will help offset some of the costs from the reductions in the subsidies, that that president wants to do. that is a good short-term fix to get us on the road, through this next hump, but at the end of the day, republicans and democrats need to get together for a long-term fix. that's a good short gap measure for getting through to the next step. >> why does anyone think that republicans and democrats would actually get -- >> it's happened before. obamacare has over 100 republican amendments. even amendments from orrin hatch. let's not act like this is not something that hasn't happened before. >> i was there when that was going on. democrats weren't taking republicans out to dinner and having drinks and doing let's do obamacare. it wasn't like that at all. it was a difficult process for republicans to get anything into these bills and manipulations by