even as a guest. i know they brought him back last month and they regret doing that. he's not going to be back on that network. >> that's only now. he was on last month and all these allegations -- there hadn't been a $32 million payout. it was, what, more than i guess $10 million -- >> they renewed his contract knowing he struck this deal. >> that's right. >> did they know the amount he paid? the 32 million? >> they say they didn't know the amount but i don't know if they didn't want to know. look the other way and not find out what was in the closet. >> i had this debate with people this weekend. do you think this is a sea change in the culture in terms of how men interact with women in a work setting? >> i would hope so, because like you mentioned, it seems like there's a play book that these powerful men have been able to use every time. i think women should be able to see through it by now. first step, smear the victim, hide behind legal action and last step is present yourself as the victim to the media. which is what bill o'reilly was doing in that clip, look all i've been through. that happens every single time.
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