all of this, cnn political commentator and political anchor at spectrum news arrol lewis and white house correspondent at the washington examiner sarah westwood. good morning to you both. reporting from jim sciutto that we just heard there, i want to play this kip clip of carter pan cnn yesterday. >> it was the only time i ever met him, we had one dinner together and i said -- >> sessions. >> yeah, and i said it was great to meet you, glad i was able to meet you before i head to moscow. totally in passing. >> is he the only one in campaign that knew about the trip? >> i mentioned it to a few people. >> who else? >> it will come out. >> and i believe it has come out. he said he told sessions and multiple others. so the question, how big a problem is this for the trump administration? >> it is a huge problem if you value consistency. it is a huge problem i think furthermore because we know that