to what month? >> from shortly after the inauguration pretty much through to when steve bannon left, which was in late august. >> so you lost your access when steve bannon left. was he the person? >> no, no. and i was back after that. but that was the point at which i saw -- you know, this was originally set up, the original idea was i would do the first 100 days. >> right. >> and then the first 100 days just didn't stop. and so steve -- steve leaving gave me a kind of end. >> so you didn't get kicked out by occasionally, when kelly took the reins? >> no, no, no. they were perfectly -- matter of fact, they even tried to see me even more because they knew, you know, that it was sort of a balance between oh, you were talking to steve. we got to sort of deprogram you from steve might have said.