playmate said they made reference to his wife in passing, yeah, yeah, don't worry about that. we have separate rooms is how he he depicted his marriage. but what i want to ask you about, all of this stuff politically speak, in terms of the damage, this isn't as bad as the "access hollywood" tape. these are consensual affairs. so politically speaking, what's the fallout? >> it depends. so the "access hollywood" tape shocked people before the election. it didn't cost him the presidency. these stories are kind of hanging on for much longer. there are questions about whether there are violations regarding the stormy daniels one. the more these stories hang around, the more they are kind of pittsburghed apart. the details seem to be coming out, drip, drip, drip. the more they stay on the headlines and on the front of