it's hard to keep a straight face after thinking about spanky to be honest with you at this point. you know, i can't believe we're talking about this, but -- >> welcome to my world, michael. >> i get it. i'm with you. the deal is this. you need a lawyer to come in who can tell you the truth you hire a lawyer that you get along with where there's a spirit of cooperation. the truth is, nobody gee hawes with trump. he'll fire you, yell at you, throw you you under the bus. nobody wants that kind of person for a client. he doesn't seem to be able to take advice fris anybody but close members of his family. it's probably not so much about conflicts or things out there that are -- business decisions. folks don't want to get into the trump swamp and be pulled down into the mess that's going to happen if he then tries to fire bob mueller. >> five minutes into the show, we've had jihad it, mercurial and spanky.