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to curt reports, was -- the document was handed down in january. there's been local press about his son-in-law out here. they were tearing down properties, investing money, taking a $3 million property, making it into purportedly a $30 million property. there are a lot of unhappy investors. he was accused of ponzi schemes. so there's also reports that manafort was investing in this. so there may be part of the case in virginia against manafort is based on this son-in-law's testimony. >> how much pressure, april, does this put on manafort if the ultimate goal is to get him to talk, open his mouth, and flip? >> it's a lot of pressure. because someone who was at least once in your family, when you sit around the kitchen table or at dinner somewhere or just in conversation, some things slip out. the question is, can that be used against him? any time you get a family member

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