role in not only trying to understand the facts but also in questioning power. i think that's not just true of the press. i think it's true of the fbi. i think it's true of the justice department. i think these guys set up a situation where there were certain institutions that could question power as a way to check power, and i think there's an organized effort to undermine those institutions. >> the press itself is an institution that has enormous power and there was great deal of discussion with these men about that. benjamin franklin, he got a seat because he was in his 80s at the time. he was a supporter of the idea of freedom of the press, but he had concerns about it. about unlimited, unchecked power. one of the concerns he had was who would exercise that power. he said any man who can procure pen, ink and paper with the press and a huge pair of blacking balls may commissionate himself. we're in an area that anyone
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