for no reason at all. these people never hurt anybody in their lives and they are just kids, they are just kids. >> reporter: 12 victims here, href11 people inside the club plus the sheriff's sergeant. we do not know why this happened but we just heard from the ventura county sheriff and he said the scene inside is horrific, it's a horrific scene. there's blood everywhere. john and alisyn, back to you. >> thank you very much for being on the scene for us. joining us now we have cnn analyst, james galendo. the sheriff there was being so circumspect, he would not say who shot whom and would not say