that people are, you know, coming over the wall like it's -- what's that hbo show again, the one with the wall? >> "game of thrones"? >> "game of thrones." that's what you would think it is. and it's not like that. >> but here you have the brown walkers. you can't have the white walkers like in "game of thrones." it's not scary enough. >> but the wall failed in "game of thrones." >> don't give away the plot, don. it's not even over yet. don't ruin it for people. you make a good point about the local coverage. you have to think, if the crisis were as profound, if the scenario were as perverse as the president lays out, don't you think the local leaders would be with him on it? >> of course! >> wouldn't you be hearing from governors and officials on the border saying, you've got to help us! wouldn't we be there, because if there were a crisis, they were being overrun? there is something manufactured about this. the president made choices early on, and let's be real, don, they worked for him in the primaries. and that's why he's sticking. you know the old expression, you've got to dance with who brung you. but sometimes you got to change your partner and that's --

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