force technology transfer and intellectual property theft. so that's where we are. we'll see what happens and we'll either get a great deal or we'll get tariffs. >> the congress secretary wilbur ross expects a trade deal but said a definitive deal will not likely happen at the g-20, and he said this about negotiations. >> well, i think there eventually will be. even shooting wars end in negotiation. so i think eventually this will end in negotiation. >> most people try to avoid shooting wars, and they try to avoid trade wars, too. secretary ross also painted the president's recent trade threats with mexico as positive and cautioned don't listen to the sound bites. and he used mexico as the example there. >> what are the results in terms of the u.s. trade war with china? our trade deficit has gone up. >> well, the president thinks the results negative. >> the president thinks there's