clear, concise message, and most importantly, she's got a good narrative. what i mean by that, you know, that's a conventional wisdom had that all the republicans, including and especially donald trump would on love to take on elizabeth warren. well, t you're g said. she just has a different cure and a different cause for the same problem. so, it will be a lot of people economically depressed, blue collar people out there in america, who are understood trump's narrative, he blamed immigrants and had a different cure, building a wall. she has a different approach and a lot of people say, you know what? his approach didn't work. maybe hers will. >> i have to tell you, mark, i know some folks. hold on, joe, i -- i will let you in. i know folks that did a 180 on her. who said i would never vote for her, i don't think she's got what it takes, and now