at 9.5, we ate teen months in and there is no job creation what will it take to get the white house -- at what point does the white house think maybe this isn't working? >> let me say this i agree with the congressman on one point. one failing of this administration is if you look at the top level people from tim geithner to the department of commerce secrcretary, department of labor secretary and so on, none of them have any private sector experience running a business that's a big problem. >> greta: west complained about that before and i wouldn't mind if the numbers were going in the right direction. they are failing terrible. i'm suspicious why christina romer has jumped ship. she said she wants to go back with her family. i think people are unhappy and there's dissention when you are failing. i think the writing is on the wall. >> i think is one of the biggest failings of washington. so few making these decisions have worked for business true