sarah palin has that, by the way. she has a star quality and carissa. >> bill: absolutely. >> i feel like he doesn't. he would be an excellent guy who stands behind the president going, yeah, yeah. >> bill: but you don't hate him like "the new york times." they loath him. >> i don't -- again, i feel this country is stronger than any individual you can throw at it. i don't hate any of these people. i don't personally that the damage they can do is so drastic and so great that we would ever be run off course by one individual. >> bill: okay. james buchanan comes to mind, but -- >> you are old. >> bill: i am. how about donald trump? >> i pray. >> bill: for or against. >> that he runs. >> bill: dive in, donald. >> you know what i did yesterday, it was very interesting, i said, where's my birth certificate?